Do you remember this panel van from 25 years ago?

johnboy 29 February 2012 70

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Police and family are renewing their appeal to the public on the 25th anniversary of one of Canberra’s longest unsolved hit and run cases which resulted in the death of a 17-year-old boy.

About 1 am on Sunday March 1, 1987, Troy Forsyth was walking with three friends on Kent Street in Deakin after attending a birthday party at the Deakin Soccer Club. He was struck by a car and died at the scene.

Troy crossed the southbound lane, onto the median strip, and then was struck by a car as he stepped onto the northbound lane. The driver did not stop, and the car and driver have never been identified.

Sergeant Jason Kennedy from ACT Policing’s Collision Investigation and Reconstruction Team (CIRT) said he is hoping that someone out there who knows something will now come forward and give the family some closure.

“It has been 25 years since Troy was tragically killed. Anyone who may know something, no matter how small they think it is, could hold the key to solving this case and I would urge them to contact Crime Stoppers with the information,” said Sergeant Kennedy.

“We believe the car could be a 1977 – 1978 Holden HZ panel van, Caribbean Turquoise in colour based on paint chips left at the scene,” Sergeant Kennedy said.

At the inquest into Troy’s death in 1988, scientific test results confirmed the paint colour of the van involved was Caribbean Turquoise, however the undercoat was not the type used by Holden.

Police suspect the panel van involved was either of a different colour originally and re-sprayed Caribbean Turquoise post-factory, or was originally Caribbean Turquoise but had undergone a re-spray post-factory using a non-Holden undercoat.

ACT Policing is urging anyone who may have information about the hit and run or can identify the driver and car involved, to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000, or via www.act.crimestoppers.com.au. Information can be provided anonymously.

[Courtesy ACT Policing]


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nes19 nes19 10:49 pm 09 Mar 12

TheDancingDjinn said :

aceofspades said :

colourful sydney racing identity said :

aceofspades said :

Fleeing the seen is probably cowardly but I don’t think anyone knows how well they would handle the same circumstances until it happens to them.

Agreed, but, this person has had 25 years to make amends.

Yes and face most likely a hefty jail term with people that do deserve to be there for an accident. What would you do?

Personally i would have stopped my car to begin with and got him to medical attention – but thats just me. Second, if it was an accident then i would make my statement to the police, and i would have made my case in court if it had come to that – but if it was an accident, the person wouldn’t have been jailed. Unless of course, they A) didn’t have a licence to drive B) were drunk ( if this were the case, then yes i want them of the street – if getting drunk and driving a V8 is someones idea of a good thing to do then yes i want them jailed – thats not an accident) C) scared shittless, which i understand – but after 25 years they should have come forward if it was an accident they felt terrible for.

Thanx 😉

TheDancingDjinn TheDancingDjinn 5:19 pm 09 Mar 12

aceofspades said :

colourful sydney racing identity said :

aceofspades said :

TheDancingDjinn said :

aceofspades said :

colourful sydney racing identity said :

aceofspades said :

Fleeing the seen is probably cowardly but I don’t think anyone knows how well they would handle the same circumstances until it happens to them.

Agreed, but, this person has had 25 years to make amends.

Yes and face most likely a hefty jail term with people that do deserve to be there for an accident. What would you do?

Personally i would have stopped my car to begin with and got him to medical attention – but thats just me. Second, if it was an accident then i would make my statement to the police, and i would have made my case in court if it had come to that – but if it was an accident, the person wouldn’t have been jailed. Unless of course, they A) didn’t have a licence to drive B) were drunk ( if this were the case, then yes i want them of the street – if getting drunk and driving a V8 is someones idea of a good thing to do then yes i want them jailed – thats not an accident) C) scared shittless, which i understand – but after 25 years they should have come forward if it was an accident they felt terrible for.

Jail term would probably still apply even if an accident, the charge is manslaughter.

Bulls***. If it was a genuine accident, with the dreiver being sober, he would get off.

Yes I would have stopped also but I can understand that even if the risk existed of going to jail for an accident it is enough of a reason not to come forward. I have seen somebody go to jail for two years for this exact accidental situation before, he was an incredibly nice bloke who helped me when I was down and would never hurt a fly. Admittedly it was North Queensland and not here but I would still be very scared.

My uncle fell asleep at the wheel while driving from Sydney to Cooma in 1974, he drifted across the lanes and hit the passenger side of his vehicle into an oncomming truck – his brother my other uncle was in that seat and was killed in the crash. My surviving uncle was charged with manslaughter, he was not jailed becasue it was a genuine accident. He didn’t mean to kill his brother, he fell asleep on a long drive – no alcohol, no drugs, just tired. I believe if this offender had not been drinking or taking drugs or doing anything else illegal or dangerous and it was a genuine accident, then he or she would not have been jailed either. I would have had a great deal sympathy for the driver, if they had stopped and tried to help, but the image of dying somewhere on a Deakin street in the dark is just horrorfying to imagine for a fully grown adult – but a young kid – that’s just heartbreaking.

aceofspades aceofspades 4:54 pm 09 Mar 12

colourful sydney racing identity said :

aceofspades said :

TheDancingDjinn said :

aceofspades said :

colourful sydney racing identity said :

aceofspades said :

Fleeing the seen is probably cowardly but I don’t think anyone knows how well they would handle the same circumstances until it happens to them.

Agreed, but, this person has had 25 years to make amends.

Yes and face most likely a hefty jail term with people that do deserve to be there for an accident. What would you do?

Personally i would have stopped my car to begin with and got him to medical attention – but thats just me. Second, if it was an accident then i would make my statement to the police, and i would have made my case in court if it had come to that – but if it was an accident, the person wouldn’t have been jailed. Unless of course, they A) didn’t have a licence to drive B) were drunk ( if this were the case, then yes i want them of the street – if getting drunk and driving a V8 is someones idea of a good thing to do then yes i want them jailed – thats not an accident) C) scared shittless, which i understand – but after 25 years they should have come forward if it was an accident they felt terrible for.

Jail term would probably still apply even if an accident, the charge is manslaughter.

Bulls***. If it was a genuine accident, with the dreiver being sober, he would get off.

Yes I would have stopped also but I can understand that even if the risk existed of going to jail for an accident it is enough of a reason not to come forward. I have seen somebody go to jail for two years for this exact accidental situation before, he was an incredibly nice bloke who helped me when I was down and would never hurt a fly. Admittedly it was North Queensland and not here but I would still be very scared.

colourful sydney racing identity colourful sydney racing identity 4:20 pm 09 Mar 12

aceofspades said :

TheDancingDjinn said :

aceofspades said :

colourful sydney racing identity said :

aceofspades said :

Fleeing the seen is probably cowardly but I don’t think anyone knows how well they would handle the same circumstances until it happens to them.

Agreed, but, this person has had 25 years to make amends.

Yes and face most likely a hefty jail term with people that do deserve to be there for an accident. What would you do?

Personally i would have stopped my car to begin with and got him to medical attention – but thats just me. Second, if it was an accident then i would make my statement to the police, and i would have made my case in court if it had come to that – but if it was an accident, the person wouldn’t have been jailed. Unless of course, they A) didn’t have a licence to drive B) were drunk ( if this were the case, then yes i want them of the street – if getting drunk and driving a V8 is someones idea of a good thing to do then yes i want them jailed – thats not an accident) C) scared shittless, which i understand – but after 25 years they should have come forward if it was an accident they felt terrible for.

Jail term would probably still apply even if an accident, the charge is manslaughter.

Bulls***. If it was a genuine accident, with the dreiver being sober, he would get off.

colourful sydney racing identity colourful sydney racing identity 4:19 pm 09 Mar 12

TheDancingDjinn said :

aceofspades said :

colourful sydney racing identity said :

aceofspades said :

Fleeing the seen is probably cowardly but I don’t think anyone knows how well they would handle the same circumstances until it happens to them.

Agreed, but, this person has had 25 years to make amends.

Yes and face most likely a hefty jail term with people that do deserve to be there for an accident. What would you do?

Personally i would have stopped my car to begin with and got him to medical attention – but thats just me. Second, if it was an accident then i would make my statement to the police, and i would have made my case in court if it had come to that – but if it was an accident, the person wouldn’t have been jailed. Unless of course, they A) didn’t have a licence to drive B) were drunk ( if this were the case, then yes i want them of the street – if getting drunk and driving a V8 is someones idea of a good thing to do then yes i want them jailed – thats not an accident) C) scared shittless, which i understand – but after 25 years they should have come forward if it was an accident they felt terrible for.

+1

aceofspades aceofspades 4:01 pm 09 Mar 12

TheDancingDjinn said :

aceofspades said :

colourful sydney racing identity said :

aceofspades said :

Fleeing the seen is probably cowardly but I don’t think anyone knows how well they would handle the same circumstances until it happens to them.

Agreed, but, this person has had 25 years to make amends.

Yes and face most likely a hefty jail term with people that do deserve to be there for an accident. What would you do?

Personally i would have stopped my car to begin with and got him to medical attention – but thats just me. Second, if it was an accident then i would make my statement to the police, and i would have made my case in court if it had come to that – but if it was an accident, the person wouldn’t have been jailed. Unless of course, they A) didn’t have a licence to drive B) were drunk ( if this were the case, then yes i want them of the street – if getting drunk and driving a V8 is someones idea of a good thing to do then yes i want them jailed – thats not an accident) C) scared shittless, which i understand – but after 25 years they should have come forward if it was an accident they felt terrible for.

Jail term would probably still apply even if an accident, the charge is manslaughter.

TheDancingDjinn TheDancingDjinn 3:56 pm 09 Mar 12

aceofspades said :

colourful sydney racing identity said :

aceofspades said :

Fleeing the seen is probably cowardly but I don’t think anyone knows how well they would handle the same circumstances until it happens to them.

Agreed, but, this person has had 25 years to make amends.

Yes and face most likely a hefty jail term with people that do deserve to be there for an accident. What would you do?

Personally i would have stopped my car to begin with and got him to medical attention – but thats just me. Second, if it was an accident then i would make my statement to the police, and i would have made my case in court if it had come to that – but if it was an accident, the person wouldn’t have been jailed. Unless of course, they A) didn’t have a licence to drive B) were drunk ( if this were the case, then yes i want them of the street – if getting drunk and driving a V8 is someones idea of a good thing to do then yes i want them jailed – thats not an accident) C) scared shittless, which i understand – but after 25 years they should have come forward if it was an accident they felt terrible for.

aceofspades aceofspades 3:43 pm 09 Mar 12

colourful sydney racing identity said :

aceofspades said :

Fleeing the seen is probably cowardly but I don’t think anyone knows how well they would handle the same circumstances until it happens to them.

Agreed, but, this person has had 25 years to make amends.

Yes and face most likely a hefty jail term with people that do deserve to be there for an accident. What would you do?

colourful sydney racing identity colourful sydney racing identity 3:37 pm 09 Mar 12

aceofspades said :

Fleeing the seen is probably cowardly but I don’t think anyone knows how well they would handle the same circumstances until it happens to them.

Agreed, but, this person has had 25 years to make amends.

aceofspades aceofspades 3:24 pm 09 Mar 12

colourful sydney racing identity said :

aceofspades said :

colourful sydney racing identity said :

aceofspades said :

In this case there will be no conviction and no justice, or have you not read the thread. There is not even a mystery like a missing person case, what happened is well known, we just don’t know who. Even if it is discovered who it was, what then?

If your child was killed by someone who then fled the scene, would you want the police to find them or not? It is really that simple.

I doubt this was a murder, it was more likely an accident. Yes they should have stopped and done whatever they could, but I am not a believer in sending people to jail for an accident even if you do catch them at the time. Accidents happen and that is a fact of life, the consequences are irrelevant.

Where did I sugggest it was murder? It may well have been an accident, but the fact is that this person killed someone and fled the scene, which is a despicable act, compunded by the fact that have still not come forward some 25 years later. I pose the same question to you: if your child was killed by someone, either deliberately or accidently, who then fled the scene, would you object to the police trying to find that person?

I don’t think I can answer that as I have never lost a child. The closest I have is losing a brother in an aircraft accident while he was a student pilot and the cause was unknown. Suspicions of course lay on the instructor who was a highly decorated ex air force pilot with huge amounts of respect from all who served with him. In the end I realised that it didn’t really matter what the cause was, knowing was not going to bring him back and was only going to bring disgrace to the instructor and his family. So I allowed the lawyers at the inquiry to come to the highly unlikely conclusion that my brother had a heart attack which caused the accident.

I guess if it was deliberate then by all means as that would be murder and murderers deserve to go to jail. If it was an accident then through my grief I would probably also feel for them having to live with that on their conscience. Fleeing the seen is probably cowardly but I don’t think anyone knows how well they would handle the same circumstances until it happens to them.

colourful sydney racing identity colourful sydney racing identity 2:53 pm 09 Mar 12

aceofspades said :

colourful sydney racing identity said :

aceofspades said :

In this case there will be no conviction and no justice, or have you not read the thread. There is not even a mystery like a missing person case, what happened is well known, we just don’t know who. Even if it is discovered who it was, what then?

If your child was killed by someone who then fled the scene, would you want the police to find them or not? It is really that simple.

I doubt this was a murder, it was more likely an accident. Yes they should have stopped and done whatever they could, but I am not a believer in sending people to jail for an accident even if you do catch them at the time. Accidents happen and that is a fact of life, the consequences are irrelevant.

Where did I sugggest it was murder? It may well have been an accident, but the fact is that this person killed someone and fled the scene, which is a despicable act, compunded by the fact that have still not come forward some 25 years later. I pose the same question to you: if your child was killed by someone, either deliberately or accidently, who then fled the scene, would you object to the police trying to find that person?

aceofspades aceofspades 2:42 pm 09 Mar 12

colourful sydney racing identity said :

aceofspades said :

In this case there will be no conviction and no justice, or have you not read the thread. There is not even a mystery like a missing person case, what happened is well known, we just don’t know who. Even if it is discovered who it was, what then?

If your child was killed by someone who then fled the scene, would you want the police to find them or not? It is really that simple.

I doubt this was a murder, it was more likely an accident. Yes they should have stopped and done whatever they could, but I am not a believer in sending people to jail for an accident even if you do catch them at the time. Accidents happen and that is a fact of life, the consequences are irrelevant.

Felix the Cat Felix the Cat 2:28 pm 09 Mar 12

Even if no conviction was bought against the offender it can still bring closure to the family.

colourful sydney racing identity colourful sydney racing identity 1:51 pm 09 Mar 12

aceofspades said :

In this case there will be no conviction and no justice, or have you not read the thread. There is not even a mystery like a missing person case, what happened is well known, we just don’t know who. Even if it is discovered who it was, what then?

If your child was killed by someone who then fled the scene, would you want the police to find them or not? It is really that simple.

TheDancingDjinn TheDancingDjinn 1:40 pm 09 Mar 12

aceofspades said :

TheDancingDjinn said :

aceofspades said :

colourful sydney racing identity said :

aceofspades said :

For what it is worth I agree with you Dark. I struggle to see the point of finding this person.

Sure, let’s not bother finding someone who is responsible for the death of another and has then attempted to conceal their involvement.

From what I understand there will be no conviction or justice, it will not bring Troy back, so what good will it do finding them?

Why convict child rapists?, the sexual abuse is over, and the kids are alive so they can just get over it. Why arrest those 2 guys who hacked that poor asian guy to death on Northbourne, i mean his family probably don’t speak english and wont understand the process, plus it wont bring him back from the dead now will it? The fact that you and your emo allie can’t for a moment imagine the pain of not knowing who killed your child, and understanding why they want the person found speaks volumes.
It still shocks me that the dark refered to the victims family as “selfish” for wanting justice – SELFISH? no selfish is killing a child on a dark road, leaving him to die alone and in pain – and then going on with your life as if nothing you did hurt anyone. You and the Dark make my stomach turn, i am sickened by the fact that you live in this city, or even this country with your putrid words to a victim of a crime. I serioulsy hope no one ever hurts your kids, and then looks at you and tells you your selfish for wanting to ruin their lives for a simple death of a child.

Oh how dramatic! I didn’t realise we were writing a soap opera.

I didn’t at any stage say it was not a despicable thing to do. I simply said I don’t see what it will achieve by finding this person. The reason we convict a child rapist is exactly that, he will be convicted and justice will be served. In this case there will be no conviction and no justice, or have you not read the thread. There is not even a mystery like a missing person case, what happened is well known, we just don’t know who. Even if it is discovered who it was, what then?

Who knows if there will or wont be a conviction? someone said the police may have mentioned it, but police aren’t the DP. who knows what would be the outcome if the person responsible was found. And if he or she is found then the family get some sort of closure, why is helping a family who hurt such a problem?, does the outcome have to effect all of us for it to matter? or can’t we just try to help them just because it’s been a long time, and they have waited long enough? Im a mother, and yes i think of myself in his mothers position – someone killed her baby, no matter his age, he was her baby – and as a mother myself i feel for that, i can’t help that it’s a human reaction. I’d want to know who it was, i would want to know his or her face, if i got no conviction then thats what it is – but i would know who did it, and i could have peace knowing i did what i needed to to find out who took my kids life – this is just an open wound for this family, a never ending bad dream , why not help them if someone out there can?

aceofspades aceofspades 1:14 pm 09 Mar 12

TheDancingDjinn said :

aceofspades said :

colourful sydney racing identity said :

aceofspades said :

For what it is worth I agree with you Dark. I struggle to see the point of finding this person.

Sure, let’s not bother finding someone who is responsible for the death of another and has then attempted to conceal their involvement.

From what I understand there will be no conviction or justice, it will not bring Troy back, so what good will it do finding them?

Why convict child rapists?, the sexual abuse is over, and the kids are alive so they can just get over it. Why arrest those 2 guys who hacked that poor asian guy to death on Northbourne, i mean his family probably don’t speak english and wont understand the process, plus it wont bring him back from the dead now will it? The fact that you and your emo allie can’t for a moment imagine the pain of not knowing who killed your child, and understanding why they want the person found speaks volumes.
It still shocks me that the dark refered to the victims family as “selfish” for wanting justice – SELFISH? no selfish is killing a child on a dark road, leaving him to die alone and in pain – and then going on with your life as if nothing you did hurt anyone. You and the Dark make my stomach turn, i am sickened by the fact that you live in this city, or even this country with your putrid words to a victim of a crime. I serioulsy hope no one ever hurts your kids, and then looks at you and tells you your selfish for wanting to ruin their lives for a simple death of a child.

Oh how dramatic! I didn’t realise we were writing a soap opera.

I didn’t at any stage say it was not a despicable thing to do. I simply said I don’t see what it will achieve by finding this person. The reason we convict a child rapist is exactly that, he will be convicted and justice will be served. In this case there will be no conviction and no justice, or have you not read the thread. There is not even a mystery like a missing person case, what happened is well known, we just don’t know who. Even if it is discovered who it was, what then?

TheDancingDjinn TheDancingDjinn 12:12 pm 09 Mar 12

aceofspades said :

colourful sydney racing identity said :

aceofspades said :

For what it is worth I agree with you Dark. I struggle to see the point of finding this person.

Sure, let’s not bother finding someone who is responsible for the death of another and has then attempted to conceal their involvement.

From what I understand there will be no conviction or justice, it will not bring Troy back, so what good will it do finding them?

Why convict child rapists?, the sexual abuse is over, and the kids are alive so they can just get over it. Why arrest those 2 guys who hacked that poor asian guy to death on Northbourne, i mean his family probably don’t speak english and wont understand the process, plus it wont bring him back from the dead now will it? The fact that you and your emo allie can’t for a moment imagine the pain of not knowing who killed your child, and understanding why they want the person found speaks volumes.
It still shocks me that the dark refered to the victims family as “selfish” for wanting justice – SELFISH? no selfish is killing a child on a dark road, leaving him to die alone and in pain – and then going on with your life as if nothing you did hurt anyone. You and the Dark make my stomach turn, i am sickened by the fact that you live in this city, or even this country with your putrid words to a victim of a crime. I serioulsy hope no one ever hurts your kids, and then looks at you and tells you your selfish for wanting to ruin their lives for a simple death of a child.

aceofspades aceofspades 11:03 am 09 Mar 12

colourful sydney racing identity said :

aceofspades said :

For what it is worth I agree with you Dark. I struggle to see the point of finding this person.

Sure, let’s not bother finding someone who is responsible for the death of another and has then attempted to conceal their involvement.

From what I understand there will be no conviction or justice, it will not bring Troy back, so what good will it do finding them?

colourful sydney racing identity colourful sydney racing identity 10:46 am 09 Mar 12

aceofspades said :

For what it is worth I agree with you Dark. I struggle to see the point of finding this person.

Sure, let’s not bother finding someone who is responsible for the death of another and has then attempted to conceal their involvement.

loosebrown loosebrown 10:44 am 09 Mar 12

Well I am glad that that the anniversary is stimulating discussion and awareness. Like the family and the police have been saying – someone out there knows about this incident and they need to come forward and tell the police, or someone else, what they know.

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