11 October 2008

Dominos - So commited to delivering pizza fast they run red lights with traffic still moving horizontally

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Last week was driving home, got off the Parkes Way and i think it was the 3rd set of lights, a Dominos zip-zip bubble piece of crap car was flying along at 110 and ran through a red light that was red for a good 15 seconds, narrowly missing another car that was driving through from their side..

I did my duty as a whinger and sped up so i could catch the a-hole. Got his number plate.. Complained 3 times to Dominos and nothing has come of this..

Licence plate is: YFK 11G

Any officers on here? I dont agree with Dominos process for fast delivery.. Its dangerous and could kill someone.

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doesn’t look like i am making fed square – hope get up got up… and i always hated the phrase ‘put your hands together for…’ i always oblige. once. and keep them together. only doin’ what da man said, ma…

my stock phrase – well, i used it more than twice – was ‘throw money; notes, they’re softer…’ never worked. 😉

diversity, eh? i’ll look out for them rockers, then… hey and entirely off topic (sorry jb), i noticed a poster for michael franti and spearhead playing anu next sunday. totally rockin’! he’s an entire dude, all the way live, and if you hang about he’ll pop back out on stage as roadies clear up and sit on the stage and natter with anyone who bothers.

Hello lamp post – watch’ya knowin
‘came to see ya flowers growin
Kickin down the cobble stones
Havin fun and feelin grrovy.

Lah lah lie lie lie lie, feelin groovy

Nothing wrong with Simon and garfunkel….I think theyr central park CD or LP kicks serious arse… right next to my sepultura and abramelin 🙂

Diversity rocks

There’s nothing wrong with looking for fun and feelin’ groovy, L ….

*hehe*

Loquaciousness9:32 am 12 Oct 08

Granny said :

Those of us with bad music taste must stick together, L! We are happy, anyways ….

: )

Indeed. Although, if I start quoting from the 59th Street Bridge Song, you might need to take some … errr … drastic action, I think 😉

L

Those of us with bad music taste must stick together, L! We are happy, anyways ….

: )

Loquaciousness9:01 am 12 Oct 08

Overheard said :

and switches the TV on at 7.25pm to gather all the news you need (thank you, Paul Simon).

Actually, it was Simon & Garfunkel (yeah, I know, close, but I’m a bit of a stickler. A stickler with poor music taste, that is!).

“Hey, I’ve got nothing to do today but smile …”

L

For starters, how do you know s/he was doing 110? Are you certified in speed detection?

Secondly, why the hell would you then speed up to catch up to them? Did you do 140 to do that?

Sounds like you’re more of a danger than the original offender.

astrojax said :

aah, then, not so much ‘rock on’ as ‘get on up’! stay funky ; )

But not ‘give it up’ which is a phrase I avoid like the plague, but sometimes open my mouth and hear me saying it. ‘Can you please got totally nuts, throw cutlery and small children into the air’ is more my standard phrase.

I had this lovely moment at the gig last night where I shared a little tradition from another world with the audience, and suffice to say that Sam Buckingham (http://www.myspace.com/sambuckinghammusic — check it out) then immediately got a standing ovation from the whole crowd.

Also, when I say MC, some people think I work the decks, and ‘yo, put yo’ hands in the a-yeh like you just don’t ca-yeh’. Ah, no.

If only the person had ordered a waaaaahburger and some french cries.

“I did my duty as a whinger and sped up so i could catch the a-hole. Got his number plate.. Complained 3 times to Dominos and nothing has come of this.”

Its’ hard e’nuf to put up with the real police let alone the punc’ation police and the cit’zen police.

aah, then, not so much ‘rock on’ as ‘get on up’! stay funky ; )

I must say I found the image of “last week” driving itself home and getting off the Parkway/Parks Way (?) quite amusing!

Hey, astrojax. Yeah, I talk/type to think at the best of times which come across like shooting from the hip. It ain’t the case. Over-react? Yeah, probably a little. Too much adrenaline, Polish beer, nerves and too little sleep will do that to you.

And right now this library I’m sitting has racked up about six client service issues, which I will learn from my experience and NOT report immediately because I’ve already worked out that Aunty Edna behind the counter will not be receptive.

A trick I’ve learnt from doing some comms stuff is this.

1. Go back and read everything I’ve written in a really angry, cross, sullen tone.
2. Then read in a flat monotone.
3. Then read with a great big smile on your face and in your voice: think Mark Parton.

Try it. You might be surprised at the results. Try it some other posts.

It’s what I mean about questioning assumptions.

No band. I sing with two choirs, but tomorrow I’ll have the MC hat on. “Ladies and gentlemen, on behalf of GetUp, welcome to this finale celebration for the climate change torch relay that has been…. yadda yadda yadda.

http://the-riotact.com/?p=9180

didn’t think there was any need to over-react.

i didn’t have a go at anyone for having a go at bennyboi’s grammar – and i put my hand up to my own inadequacies. all i said in, albeit a long-handed way, was that the initial post was clearly intended to serve a useful purpose and didn’t really deserve the clinical dressing down it got. but there ya go. i just thought the conversation herein might be better served talking to the points raised, not to any perceived inadequacies in how they were raised and that bennyboi might have been a tad mistreated… thx spidedog for reiterating a couple of the salient points, and i’ll shut up now.

…apart from to ask, btw, overheard, what sort of band you in tomorrow (presume that’s the purpose of the mic?) – i should probably know from another thread, but i’m not on it and i’m too lazy to search. might be out that way meself, pop by and listen in… will say g’day if i am about. rock on.

Overheard said :

Firstly, the initial event is not the actions of Domino’s, it’s the actions of an individual who works for Domino’s (and probably gets paid &^?%4-all to the power of less to do so). Whether they’re working one job or seven jobs or supporting a family of seven or putting themselves through Uni or were just having a really, really bad day and got distracted, I don’t know.

And neither do you.

The other potential case is that the driver is a total ar$e-wipe with no respect for laws, others on the road, his/her own life.

Again, you don’t know, but good on you for invading this person’s privacy and posting their licence plate on the web BEFORE you found out what their story was.*

The licence plate is not really breaching this drivers privacy – seeing how it is linked to Dominoes and not the actual driver.

Besides, it doesn’t matter what their “personal situation” is, if they run a red light at speed and seriously injure or even kill someone…. If their personal situation is that bad that they are running red lights, then perhaps they should not be driving in the first place ??

PBO said :

Anyway, it’s the drivers fault not Domino’s. And you do need a corroboratting witness otherwise it is just an accusation. Nuff said.

Man, so much wisdom in so few words. How you do that, PBO. Teach me! Are you a poet?!

Well said.

D-Man said :

So much banality and fail wrapped up together in one thread. It’s rather impressive.

Or even in one post, as you’ve just proved, D-Man.

astrojax, I won’t quote slabs of your post, I’ll just do you dot point.

* If you think I’m caning bennyboi for his punctuation lapses, then you too, my friend need to go back and read my early statements elsewhere about spelling, punctuation, grammar, formatting and last but not least, CONTEXT.

I’ll not re-state them here. I’ll just say that if you’re going to misconstrue what I intended (without asking) then please go and get bent out of shape if you want, but you will have to own that on your own and don’t mention my (nick)name in the same breath, OK. Please?

OK, I’ll restate one — one that I told johnboy in person and he sort of kind of arced up because he thought I was having a shot when I was really just laying out a personal philosophy:

~~ I could not give a fat rat’s what sins anyone commits at the altar of spelling, punctuation, grammar, formatting on this site. CONTEXT. This is not your 5,000 word paper for Professional Communication, second semester. I won’t stop myself making some sub-conscious# judgements about you or your education level while I’m reading, but that’s hard-coded into my cerebrum — I’m not doing that through choice. What I am doing is choosing not to get bent out of shape.

And you know what? I make heaps of blues. All the time. # You should have seen how many goes I had at that word before getting it right.

astrojax, I invite you to work out why I raised the apostrophes. Think outside the square. Let go of your thoughts, trust your feelings, Luke.

Question 27 assumptions today: what if I what I saw isn’t as it seems? What if that conclusion I took ages to get to was based on false premises? Think critically, otherwise you’re reduced to a mindless drone that just watches ‘Getaway’ or ‘Stayaway’ to form your world views, and switches the TV on at 7.25pm to gather all the news you need (thank you, Paul Simon).

* “who is he writing for? us.” Is absolutely one of many possible answers I was looking for. NOW, go back and read bennyboi’s original statement about who he ISN’T writing for, and see if you can join the dots.

Wide Boy Jake10:45 am 11 Oct 08

So bennyboi doesn’t like Dominos. That makes twenty million others who don’t have a problem with them . . .

At least the pizza was probably still hot when it arrived.

Anyway, it’s the drivers fault not Domino’s. And you do need a corroboratting witness otherwise it is just an accusation. Nuff said.

bennyboi said :

I have 3 HP security clearances.. Does that help my trustworthiness?

HP does not mean squat in the scheme of things Bennyboi, and i think that you have committed an offence under whatever security act that you signed by telling the world that you have them.

Danman said :

Overheard you’re an incendiary but cunny funt…keep up the good cheer 🙂

That first part, my friend, is going on my next business card, or at the very least my business web-site! Thanks for helping to warm up my stomach muscles for singing with yet another belly laugh for the day.

(And hello to anyone joining us from Melbourne, Essendon, Brisbane or Turner — I’ve been sort of spreadin’ de word this week.)

So much banality and fail wrapped up together in one thread. It’s rather impressive.

i think poor bennyboi is getting the raw end of the prawn here a bit. i didn’t take the domino’s driver’s privacy to have been infringed, when the only identifying mark provided was a very publicly-displayed registration plate. there are websites where people log claims of motor traffic breaches so i can’t see how this is any different – overheard goes so far as to supplement this by the witticism pursuant to ‘pizza car chaser’. while there were a few grammatical errors in bennyboi’s post, without a strict and comprehensive check, i’d suspect the percentage of all posts on the riot with some grammatical deficiencies would rock in at 80% or more – many of mine doubtless included (lack of capitals aside – i claim this a ‘cummings-influenced stylistic trait’!)

and let’s look again at the incident: not a vehicle going through a red light in the same sort of motion as they change to amber then red then ‘whoosh’, but a significant delay when the adjacent lanes’ lights turned green and more time for these vehicles to react and begin their journey into the intersection. all right, i concede it was perhaps reckless of bennyboi to himself infringe in order to gather the information he hoped may be useful in some sort of follow-up action to curtail such future infringements by this errant delivery driver, but i will be so cordial as to assume he did so in a responsible – in the circumstances – manner. his intentions were admirable and were conceived and executed from the perspective of a concerned citizen with others’ well being in mind, and here we pillory him.

who was he writing for? us, overheard, us. for our collective safety, in order to seek advice he may have been lacking in other approaches to the situation such that he may eventually achieve the result he was after in the first instance, to wit, the future curtailing of irresponsible road usage by domino’s delivery drivers; and hopefully by extension, i imagine, all other road users. laudable and so reason enough to excuse some minor deficiencies, for mine, especially when compared to some of the nutbag posts elsewhere herein…

but the advice bennyboi needs is to have reported this to the appropriate authorities – the police – in the first instance, who would likely have much more success in gathering the ear of the domino’s management, among other things. ‘s why we pay ’em! it was the ‘last week when…’ that was the real downfall, bennyboi. the time has sadly passed and perhaps too so has the ratbag driver…

happy sat’dy everyone.

Really not the best of places stating you have ,wait for it, not one or two, but three HP security clearances.
Hay I could say I have TS PV Nat Security clearance – advisor to chief of police and prominent member of teh AIC – people would still think I’m a tard.

Oh and you stated you gave chase to get rego plates – thats just as unsafe as running a red.

Heaps of times in the past week I have waited for 1 2 or 3 cars to clear the intersection several seconds after I get a green light..

People run reds all the time… deal with it…

Maybe you need to hand in your licence if you can not handle the stress

Overheard you’re an incendiary but cunny funt…keep up the good cheer 🙂

Does HP mean Highly Protected? That’s not a security clearance! That’s an up-jumped police check. with a “working with children” thrown in. security clearance, humf.

A pizza driver stretched the law? Oh f*cking god! Call out the cavalry!

Bennyboi, that you cite your security clearance as some kind of qualification for something (making you appear a clueless braggart), carried on about dying for your country (making you appear a redneck automoton), and showed yourself to be illiterate (making you irrelevant in a media where text matters) says everything about your story.

Have a great Saturday, benny. I mean that most sincerely.

I’m sorry you think I’m busting your chops. Go read the other post where I gave you ten thumbs up and a gold star.

Come up to Federation Mall tomorrow (11am to 3pm) and say g’day. From what I’ve read, you sound like a decent sort of a bloke. I’ll be the one with the microphone, dressed in black (possibly green*) shirt.

* I haven’t rung my fashion consultant (13 yr old daughter) to check yet.

No one else is complaining..

Seriously, stop busting my balls.. Its Saturday.

bennyboi said :

And why was i attacked for my ‘missing apostrophes’.. Thats the most pathetic insult.. I am at home writing this mate.. I’m not being payed to write in perfect English to accommodate for you and if you can string a sentence together without apostrophes then you really are a dropkick.

Point. Missed. Newbie, go have a look at my previous posts on this issue. There are many, and there are many more by others that I have not contributed to.

You’re not writing for me, benny. But ask yourself this: who are you writing for? Really?

On topic (and here’s another point I expect you to miss). It’s spelt: “paid”. Payed is a small town near Rennes where they make goat’s cheese (fromage du chevre).

See if you get that point.

You must know a lot of un-Australian people then.. I’d die to protect my country, i love my country and i respect the position of trust a lot.. So should other people or they aren’t real Aussies.

ant said :

How can licence plates be private, when they’re stuck on every car’s bum for all to see? I’ve never been able to work that out. The info contained on the data base behind the plates might well be private, but the plates ain’t. they’re a public ID mechanism.

Pizza deliverers, in the main, are paid piece rates, ie, a set rate per delivery. Which of course has the deliverers needing to make more deliveries to make money.

And does that police reporting page work? I tried it last year, when a commercial crane driver was blasting away at a woman for rightly giving way to traffic on a roundabout, but it wouldn’t work. Kept getting errors.

Comms 101, ant. You probably saw a thousand number plates yesterday, or maybe a few hundred.

How many are salient to you? How many can you recall? How many of them do you have value-laden connotations attached to them?

Pizza deliverers — I won’t do you the whole nine yards on that, but let’s say for now that yes, many are piece workers. But not all. And their need for speed is not merely motivated by getting back to pick up the next commissionable delivery. My bro’ ran a [insert brand name here] for many years, topped and tailed by being a driver which he’s now interestingly returned to as a sidelight. I believe. I get the occasional smoke signal from people who know him.

I gave up trying to report traffic infractions years ago. After nearly being side-swiped on Belconnen Way by someone who…. oh, who cares, details — an orificer of the law came to my place, took a statement, wrote lots of stuff in his notebook and then said that as I was the only one in the car, it was my word against his so forget it.

bennyboi said :

I have 3 HP security clearances.. Does that help my trustworthiness?

No, not in the slightest. I’ll not make a list of people in high positions of trust and authority who abuse that.

But buy the current issue of ‘Big Issue’ with a picture of a former Governor General and go from there.

And why was i attacked for my ‘missing apostrophes’.. Thats the most pathetic insult.. I am at home writing this mate.. I’m not being payed to write in perfect English to accommodate for you and if you can string a sentence together without apostrophes then you really are a dropkick.

How can licence plates be private, when they’re stuck on every car’s bum for all to see? I’ve never been able to work that out. The info contained on the data base behind the plates might well be private, but the plates ain’t. they’re a public ID mechanism.

Pizza deliverers, in the main, are paid piece rates, ie, a set rate per delivery. Which of course has the deliverers needing to make more deliveries to make money.

And does that police reporting page work? I tried it last year, when a commercial crane driver was blasting away at a woman for rightly giving way to traffic on a roundabout, but it wouldn’t work. Kept getting errors.

I have 3 HP security clearances.. Does that help my trustworthiness?

hmmm, not very good that dominos has not responded
im sure they couldnt care less if they lose one customer when they gain many more on a weekly basis.

* In just one of 2,700 customer service stories from last week which I’ll spare you 2,699 of — for now — my business (the one that starts with ‘Overheard’, or ‘Overhead’ if you work for Sensis and think customer service means rogering the client physically or mataphorically — my business got cold-called by a south coast accommodation provider (ironic, given my day job is/was in accommodation and travel policy and services) while I was in Melbourne on Thursday.

Long story short, I rang the manager of the establishment back at my own not inconsiderable expense 10 minutes later to let her know that someone in her organisation (or as it turned out, a sister organisation) was giving her brand and establishment a very bad name by their tactics.

I wanted to talk to the butcher, not the block, but the receptionist tried three times to extract the actual issue from me, ringing off once as there were other incoming calls and I had no need to divert possible business from them while I wanted to give company feed-back. With each attempt, she got more agitated as I very calmly and levelly pointed out that I just wanted to let the manager know the PR work being done on her behalf could potentially lose her business.

That’s when I got this in a reproachful and snippy tone: ‘Well, she just lost her husband yesterday so I don’t think she really cares about any of this!’

Deep, deep, deep breath. ‘Can you please pass on my very sincere condolences to [name], and now that I have THAT piece of information, I’ll leave my number — you already have my name — and [name] can ring me back in a week, a month, two months or not at all’.

When I finally composed myself, I also composed another possible (though absolutely not-to-be-used) response: How the #$%^ could I have known that and how could you possibly take my well-intentioned actions and turn them into something insensitive and cruel when I’m trying to save this woman some good will and business?

Multiple points to mention here on customer service and company image. I can’t comment on the legality and law enforcement side of things, except to say I suspect that unless you had someone else in the car with you who can corroborate (sp? — that’s either a verb meaning to back up a view, or to participate in an indigenous ceremony) your story, you might be politely told by the constabulary to suck it up and deal with it.

Firstly, the initial event is not the actions of Domino’s, it’s the actions of an individual who works for Domino’s (and probably gets paid &^?%4-all to the power of less to do so). Whether they’re working one job or seven jobs or supporting a family of seven or putting themselves through Uni or were just having a really, really bad day and got distracted, I don’t know.

And neither do you.

The other potential case is that the driver is a total ar$e-wipe with no respect for laws, others on the road, his/her own life.

Again, you don’t know, but good on you for invading this person’s privacy and posting their licence plate on the web BEFORE you found out what their story was.*

The more important matter from a company image perspective is that you have not received a suitable response from Domino’s. That’s ridiculous from their side. However, we don’t know how you went about reporting this incident, and as you’ve disclosed above, you are a “whinger” and were prepared to speed up to clock the driver’s licence plate, possibly endangering other drivers and shipping in the area.

Maybe someone’s posted your licence plate elsewhere as a dangerous ‘Pizza Car Chaser’.

Assumption is the mother of all f***-ups, bennyboi. I suggest you take a deep breath, count to ten, and get concerned about something that actually matters.

Oh, and judging from your post, I’d be ringing the police to report all those missing apostrophes. I’ve provided a police sketch artist’s impression of the missing ones below:

‘ ‘ ‘

Finally, if you infer this incident is somehow reflective of the company’s policy on pizza delivery, you might want to attend in person to present to the ‘Pizza Delivery Children Thrown Overboard’ Inquiry behind Old Parliament House this Sunday from 11am. I’m officiating and will be happy to take your testimony.

Can’t really tar a Dominos Franchise with the “Stoopid Driver” tag though… For each driver like the above, I’m sure they have an equally rule-abiding driver (then a whole stack somewhere in between).

No excuse for them (drivers), but do remember they employ *mainly* younger folks, most of whom are temporarily superhuman when behind the wheel…

Hilarious!

I have had so many bad experiences with both Dominos and Pizza Hut (Dickson restaurants ahem) that I doubt I would ever trust either one ever again…

Both cases involved them triple charging my credit card, failing to even show up within 4 hours and then taking months to reimburse me…
Tis the problem with franchises…..

Report it to the police personally. http://www.afp.gov.au/contact.html

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