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Don’t get exhausted this election, keep numbering!

By Tom Swann - 19 October 2012 31

Election campaigns are exhausting, but don’t exhaust your vote. Keep numbering!

You have to number at least 1-5 or 1-7. But leaving at that means your vote might not count for the final seat.

In the ACT, the final seat usually depends on a tight race fought through preferences, chosen by the voters and not the parties. If you don’t choose further preferences and your numbers run out during allocation, your ballot paper is put aside and you wont get to have a say for that final seat.

So if you would prefer someone over someone else, make sure you give them a number. And if you really don’t want someone to win, make sure you preference the others.

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31 Responses to
Don’t get exhausted this election, keep numbering!
colourful sydney rac 12:00 pm 20 Oct 12

dixyland said :

This is the first election I haven’t numbered the majority of candidates. I usually only leave a few of the people I truly detest off, but I took 5 minutes to figure out who I would number 2-5. I guess this is what happens when the major parties don’t have policies and the major-minor party have turned into nut-cases.

geni_lou – You are wrong. In Brindabella and Ginninderra you have to vote to a minimum of 5 and Molonglo a minimum of 7 for your vote to count. Otherwise it’s an invalid vote.

incorrect. it is a valid vote even if you only vote for 1 candidate (as long as you don’t put a tick or a cross)

shirty_bear 11:52 am 20 Oct 12

Particularly miserable assortment in Ginninderra 🙁
After numbering to 2 I could find no other desirable candidate. Couldn’t even bring myself to vote along my usually-preferred party lines. Proud of myself for resisting the temptation to put 26 “28”s.

(and, yes, pirate_taco was one of the two)

dixyland 11:41 am 20 Oct 12

This is the first election I haven’t numbered the majority of candidates. I usually only leave a few of the people I truly detest off, but I took 5 minutes to figure out who I would number 2-5. I guess this is what happens when the major parties don’t have policies and the major-minor party have turned into nut-cases.

geni_lou – You are wrong. In Brindabella and Ginninderra you have to vote to a minimum of 5 and Molonglo a minimum of 7 for your vote to count. Otherwise it’s an invalid vote.

Masquara 11:34 am 20 Oct 12

Putting faces & names out there at the last minute on posters hasn’t been the best of strategies. Liberals should have learnt by now: because they aren’t in government, they’re at a huge disadvantage, as people vote for familiar names and faces. The folks in government have their messages out there all the time, not surprisingly, through media attention.

Zed and his crew should have been out there in campaign mode for ALL of the last four years, getting those identities branded onto the citizenry’s brains.

I noticed when I voted, not surprisingly, that I found myself numbering the names and faces I knew, and stopped numbering when I ran out.

miz 11:24 am 20 Oct 12

Good tip Tom – I will number everyone except for a certain Brindabella MLA who will get a big fat blank from me. She doesn’t even deserve a number.

pirate_taco 8:01 am 20 Oct 12

Nightshade said :

pirate_taco said :

Not voting for all the preferences won’t help nor hinder parties you don’t agree with from getting in. If you really don’t want Greens to win a seat, put them last to help another candidate get to the quota. Your preferences also could matter in the future if any seats are vacated and there is a countback to elect a new MLA.

I don’t understand. How can it make a difference to someone you did preference whether you put someone else last or leave their box blank? If you number a box, your vote could end up with that person. If you don’t, it can’t.

There are five candidates to be selected in Ginninderra.
If I number every box and if I put the ones I least want last, my vote can never count to them because either they will already be elected through other people’s preferences, or my preferences will help elect someone else first.

If you just stop numbering, once your preferences are exhausted, you are giving up any say in who gets elected and letting everyone else decide for you.

If you follow Zed’s advice and only vote Liberal and do not preference anyone else, the minor Liberal candidates will get excluded and the excess quota from the elected candidates will not flow on to help the party/candidates who you think are least worst in the final hinge seat.

Glen Takkenberg
Pirate Party ACT for Ginninderra

irritable 7:31 am 20 Oct 12

If the box is left blank the candidate can not be elected by your vote, not now and not ever in a count-back caused by a casual vacancy. It is a very powerful tool that voters can use to excludes specific candidates and parties.

Nightshade 11:00 pm 19 Oct 12

pirate_taco said :

Not voting for all the preferences won’t help nor hinder parties you don’t agree with from getting in. If you really don’t want Greens to win a seat, put them last to help another candidate get to the quota. Your preferences also could matter in the future if any seats are vacated and there is a countback to elect a new MLA.

I don’t understand. How can it make a difference to someone you did preference whether you put someone else last or leave their box blank? If you number a box, your vote could end up with that person. If you don’t, it can’t.

justin heywood 9:25 pm 19 Oct 12

PoQ said :

As Grahame Richardson said, you may not like any of the candidates, but you can always enjoy putting somebody last.

Spoiled for Choice!

My number one tick will be a faintly marked, tentative affair, but I’ve put a lot of thought into who I’ll put last – from a particularly strong field this year.

geni_lou 9:17 pm 19 Oct 12

You don’t have to number any more than you want. If you don’t want to preference any more than 1-4 your vote still counts. Voters are encouraged to go to 5 or 7, but your vote counts regardless of how many boxes you numbe, as long as you number one.

PoQ 6:08 pm 19 Oct 12

As Grahame Richardson said, you may not like any of the candidates, but you can always enjoy putting somebody last.

Deref 5:57 pm 19 Oct 12

bd84 said :

you could make a paper aeroplane out of it if you wanted to.

I fixed that for you.

You’re welcome.

pirate_taco 5:35 pm 19 Oct 12

I’ll be numbering mine fully, and making my vote go as far as it can.

Not voting for all the preferences won’t help nor hinder parties you don’t agree with from getting in.
If you really don’t want Greens to win a seat, put them last to help another candidate get to the quota.
Your preferences also could matter in the future if any seats are vacated and there is a countback to elect a new MLA.

If you want to protest the way a party is acting, but still want to see them elected, vote for a minor party or independent first, then preference your preferred party.
Can’t bring yourself to do that? Vote for your preferred party, but vote for a non sitting MLA first.

Our electoral system allows us so much power. We could dump all sitting MLAs yet still have the same number of seats elected per party if we collectively wanted to.

Shake things up.

Glen Takkenberg
Pirate Party ACT for Ginninderra

Mothy 4:05 pm 19 Oct 12

bd84 said :

Minimising the number of boxes you number help keep pesky usless parties like the Greens out of the assembly.

Explain? Its not like they leave the vacancy unfilled!

bd84 3:55 pm 19 Oct 12

There’s no requirement to number any of the boxes, you could make a paper airplane out of it if you wanted to.

There’s also no minimum number of boxes you need to number to have your vote counted (contrary to what the ballot paper says), you can put just 1 in a box and nothing else and it would be a valid vote.

Minimising the number of boxes you number help keep pesky usless parties like the Greens out of the assembly.

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