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Don’t let your dope grow over the fence

By johnboy 20 January 2012 56

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ACT Policing’s City Beats team executed a Drug of Dependence Warrant on a home in Narrabundah late this afternoon (Friday, January 20) seizing around 18 mature cannabis plants.

Police were notified by a member of the public who saw the plants hanging over the fence. Police executed the warrant about 3 pm today.

A 26-year-old man from Griffith (Canberra) will be summonsed to appear before the ACT Magistrates Court charged with Cultivating a Controlled Plant.

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Tooks 8:30 am 13 Feb 12

HenryBG said :

Tooks said :

Personally, I don’t care what people smoke, jab, snort etc, as long as it doesn’t affect me. The current system of prohibition isn’t working, but those who suggest that legalising these drugs is some kind of magic bullet are way off the mark.
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That’s a false assertion. There are precedents fort the legalisation/decriminalisation of cannabis in places such as Holland and Portugal where the results appear positive. I think Switzerland has demonstrated something similar with heroin, but I think it’s be much easier just to treat heroin addicts as if they had a mental illness and subject them to compulsory treatment orders if they’re charged with any kind of drug-related crime.

I wasn’t talking about cannabis, although I didn’t make that clear in the paragraph you quoted. I suggest you have a closer look at some of those overseas policies. There is NO magic bullet when it comes to drug laws.

Cannabis legalisation is worth a try in my opinion, but even that will probably never happen.

Jethro 6:08 am 13 Feb 12

HenryBG said :

Tooks said :

Personally, I don’t care what people smoke, jab, snort etc, as long as it doesn’t affect me. The current system of prohibition isn’t working, but those who suggest that legalising these drugs is some kind of magic bullet are way off the mark.
.

That’s a false assertion. There are precedents fort the legalisation/decriminalisation of cannabis in places such as Holland and Portugal where the results appear positive. I think Switzerland has demonstrated something similar with heroin, but I think it’s be much easier just to treat heroin addicts as if they had a mental illness and subject them to compulsory treatment orders if they’re charged with any kind of drug-related crime.

Once you start getting into the drugs that really do have super serious consequences it gets murkier. I don’t think anyone would want to see a heroin shop open up in Civc.

However, I could imagine a system in which people diagnosed as addicts were treated as having a health problem, in which they could access safe heroin cheaply from a government dispensary. They would also be able to access support services from there.

To me, the main benefits of this system would be that it takes away the heroin market from the crime gangs. If you were a criminal and you knew that once you got a person hooked on heroin they would be able to access it cheaper and safer from the government, why would you push it on them in the first place? My theory is that in the long run you would see a significant drop in heroin addicts, as heroin stopped being pushed by gangs who would realise there is no longer a long term market to be had and therefore no reason to try and get people addicted to your their product.

Just speculation, but it seems reasonable.

HenryBG 6:32 pm 12 Feb 12

Tooks said :

Personally, I don’t care what people smoke, jab, snort etc, as long as it doesn’t affect me. The current system of prohibition isn’t working, but those who suggest that legalising these drugs is some kind of magic bullet are way off the mark.
.

That’s a false assertion. There are precedents fort the legalisation/decriminalisation of cannabis in places such as Holland and Portugal where the results appear positive. I think Switzerland has demonstrated something similar with heroin, but I think it’s be much easier just to treat heroin addicts as if they had a mental illness and subject them to compulsory treatment orders if they’re charged with any kind of drug-related crime.

fabforty 4:14 pm 12 Feb 12

Sheesh Kiron2222, whatever you are on just isn’t working.

Chill……. out………man

Tooks 2:49 pm 12 Feb 12

Personally, I don’t care what people smoke, jab, snort etc, as long as it doesn’t affect me. The current system of prohibition isn’t working, but those who suggest that legalising these drugs is some kind of magic bullet are way off the mark.

It’s a moot point anyway. ‘Hard’ drugs like cocaine, methamphetamine, cocaine etc will never be legalised – not in our lifetime anyway.

Put whatever shit you like in your body, but if that happens to be illegal drugs, then deal with the fact it’s illegal, or get off your fat lazy arses and start your own lobby group and try to make a change.

Kiron2222 1:33 pm 12 Feb 12

Just for the laughs, I could go into anyones garden on this board and find scheduled 5 plants under ACT law.
As I said in the Kava thread, I have found scheduled 5 plants IN THE GARDEN ON THE AFP HEADQUATERS.

fabforty said :

Cannabis is much stronger now than it was back in the 70s and 80s. It can bring on psychotic episodes and exacerbate other mental illness.

Oh boy, here comes that bullcrap Government propaganda again with absolutely 0 evidence to back it up!

Let me guess as well, MDMA burns holes in your brain, DMT/LSD/Peyote cause people to go crazy and M-Cat is named that way because it makes people turn into Meowing Cats as reported widely by the Media and Government. Right?

Well no….
– Not alot of study has gone into MDMA long term effects, but what human studies there have been show that Ecstasy doesn’t actually have any real long-term side effects even in heavy users and Serotonin receptors completely repaired themselves after one year of non-use.

– DMT is found naturally in the human body, it is believed it is the drug the brain releases to allow us to perceive reality and it’s believed that it is released in very high doses during REM sleep to allow us to perceive dreams. Sadly not alot of study has gone into this due to the illegality of DMT and due to DMT having a half life of mere minutes once released in the human body so it’s very hard to detect and see what it actually does but it has been used for thousands of years without a single case of mental illness or death relating to it.

– LSD, again, no verifiable cases of mental illness, only death recorded was when someone injected themselves with nearly 400mg of the stuff.

– Peyote. Recent studies by Harvard show that regular users of Peyote score far higher mental health and mental aptitude scores than the rest of the community, Though it is also believed that the spiritual and religious ceremonies based also the substance also helped the scores.

– M-Cat is named that way because the drug is called Methcathinone, the whole turning people into cats story was so retarded that I face palmed whenever people told me it in public (which shows that the majority of people actually believe whatever the Government tells them about drugs, no matter how goddamn stupid it is)

Instead of having Moral outrage about small groups of people doing drugs recreationally, where is the moral outrage over the huge amounts of addiction, violence, crime and death relating to Alcohol?

Where is the moral outrage that parents and doctors are giving their children incredibly addictive Amphetamines like Methylphenidate and Dextroamphetamine under the name Ritalin and Adderall to make them study harder?

Oh that’s right, giving people addictive drugs to make people more boring, lifeless, suicidal but productive is perfectly fine!

You hypocritical anti-drug drones who believe whatever crap the Government spouts are the cancer of society that will never let us get proper legislation based on actual reason and scientific data.
How Nicotine, Caffeine, Alcohol, Amphetamines are perfectly legal and widly used and abused by society yet 90% of the illegal scheduled substances have such a low harm score that they are almost harmless if used in moderation is disgusting.

HenryBG 9:34 pm 23 Jan 12

LSWCHP said :

matt31221 said :

What happens to all that cannabis in the police lockup? Do they burn it or what?

It’s burned in a controlled fashion, at the rate of about 1 ounce per hour.

Unless it was part of Operation Seville, in which case the cannabis will just quietly disappear.

LSWCHP 8:49 pm 23 Jan 12

matt31221 said :

What happens to all that cannabis in the police lockup? Do they burn it or what?

It’s burned in a controlled fashion, at the rate of about 1 ounce per hour.

Cantoangel 6:04 pm 23 Jan 12

Voytek said :

And I bet the “informants” are smugly sitting there wallowing in self-satisfaction at the just deed they’ve done for society. Whoverer you are – you are ignorant scum with little idea of what constitues a real crime.

Yeah fair enough since it seems like they’re probably cultivating it for their own use but to call people who called it in scum? At least they’ve reported something that they thought might be wrong…ignorant yes, but scum, really?? I’d call scum the people who sit behind their computers acting all high and mighty and raging on about the real crimes out there….probably hiding behind their curtains when @#$% is happening outside.

HenryBG 5:38 pm 23 Jan 12

legal_chick86 said :

Mate, i know of people that keep their heaters off in winter and grow plants hydroponically under UV lights in whole rooms! I have also heard of it being laced with different drugs – people are experimenting to make it stronger/give different effects, and you are naive if you think different!

What on earth is your argument? I do hope that genuine “legal-chick”s can actually construct a logical argument as opposed to your rampant non-sequitur.

Tooks 4:53 pm 23 Jan 12

Weed never did much for me. Don’t really understand the appeal of it, but each to their own I suppose.

This guy deserves to be charged for his stupidity at the very least.

NoImRight 4:10 pm 23 Jan 12

Voytek said :

And I bet the “informants” are smugly sitting there wallowing in self-satisfaction at the just deed they’ve done for society. Whoverer you are – you are ignorant scum with little idea of what constitues a real crime.

Speeding?

PBO 3:52 pm 23 Jan 12

fabforty said :

18 plants ? This couple are clearly dealing. And for those who think this is all harmless, do you not realise that it is because of scum like this that 16 year olds are breaking into houses and ripping off people’s XBoxes and grandma’s engagement ring so they can buy their daily dose of weed ?

Cannabis is much stronger now than it was back in the 70s and 80s. It can bring on psychotic episodes and exacerbate other mental illness.

I smoke a bit of weed and i have never stolen Grandma’s xbox or ripped anyone off so i could get some Belco Garnish, next you will be telling us that people shoot up weed. As for dealing, where is the proof? They look like they are just supplying themselves if they are outdoor plants, if I have too many Tomatoes does that make me a fruit dealer? This person looks like they are just saving themselves some money by not contributing to the drug trade and doing it for themselves.

SEE youthful marijuana victims – what actually happens – Drug Crazed Abandon!

Tell your children! Sin – degradation – vice – insanity!

“Chick, fwoosh, bubble bubble bubble………aaaaahhhhhhhh”

legal_chick86 1:53 pm 23 Jan 12

Listers_Cat said :

fabforty said :

18 plants ? This couple are clearly dealing. And for those who think this is all harmless, do you not realise that it is because of scum like this that 16 year olds are breaking into houses and ripping off people’s XBoxes and grandma’s engagement ring so they can buy their daily dose of weed ?

Cannabis is much stronger now than it was back in the 70s and 80s. It can bring on psychotic episodes and exacerbate other mental illness.

Keep things in perspective.Its not heroin or amphetamine – its a bit of weed (a plant that has been used for thousands of years by humans that has never killed anyone). Your precious Xbox is safe.

It isn’t even being intensively farmed (hydroponically under UV lights) for extra THC and extra higher yields. That means its no stronger than the weed you smoked in the 70s and 80s.

Mate, i know of people that keep their heaters off in winter and grow plants hydroponically under UV lights in whole rooms! I have also heard of it being laced with different drugs – people are experimenting to make it stronger/give different effects, and you are naive if you think different!

legal_chick86 1:49 pm 23 Jan 12

matt31221 said :

What happens to all that cannabis in the police lockup? Do they burn it or what?

Staff Christmas party??? 😛

HenryBG 1:44 pm 23 Jan 12

Jethro said :

p1 said :

HenryBG said :

Sure, he’s likely to make a bit of pocket money out of selling the odd gram to his mates, but there’s no distribution chain there and never likely to be one – most of those plants are clearly not going to be productive so he’s not exactly going to get more than a few ounces anyway.

Can you choose either imperial of metric and stick to it? Using both in a short paragraph is confusing.

Why is it the Aussies you metric for everything but weed (and babies), whereas the Yanks use imperial for everything but weed?

Maybe, because after prohibition, a lot of it was coming in from Canada?

I don’t know either, but it is interesting.

I think you were far too easy giving in on the “opinion” thing Jethro – objective analysis is possible in almost every case, and an objective analysis of the nonsense posted here by the wowsers (OMG! 18 Plants! He’s a drug dealer! People rob houses to buy cannabis therefore it should be banned!) reveals quite plainly that support for prohibition is indeed informed by abject ignorance of the most pitiful witch-burning kind.

Then there’s the small proportion of prohibitionists who make shit up about the health effects – they *might* be ignorant, but they are *certainly* either dishonest or intellectually incompetent.

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