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Double glazing in Canberra in 2014

By Enezeusa 12 May 2014 48

An update… The last thread about it is from 2011.

Does anyone have recommendations about double glazing?

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rorotyler 1:01 pm 07 Feb 18

I know this is an old thread and there’s already a lot of great info on here, but if you can’t be bothered to DIY and want to have it done professionally, check out https://malplas.com.au/

We’ve been using them for years and they’ve always done an ace job.

    Trix M 12:09 am 26 May 18

    Maybe they’re great, but I’ve looked at their website in the past, and looking at it again, it’s just as bad. I would like to see some examples of their work before I bother picking up the phone.

JesintaBale 3:43 pm 22 Sep 16

madmum said :

InKambah said :

I’m interested in double glazing my windows in 2015. Any tips on a good vendor/contractor?

Look up ACTDoubleGlazed

Hi there you can try Malplas Canberra. Great blokes

madmum 1:12 pm 18 Aug 15

InKambah said :

I’m interested in double glazing my windows in 2015. Any tips on a good vendor/contractor?

Look up ACTDoubleGlazed

madmum 1:11 pm 14 Aug 15

InKambah said :

I’m interested in double glazing my windows in 2015. Any tips on a good vendor/contractor?

Are we allowed to mention a business name on here without being banished? last time I was on a forum and recommended someone I got sin binned, can’t understand why as the question was “who can recommend”

InKambah 10:07 am 12 Jul 15

I’m interested in double glazing my windows in 2015. Any tips on a good vendor/contractor?

Walker 8:36 pm 26 Jul 14

Masquara said :

davo101 said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

dungfungus said :

Does argon gas in between the two panes of glass make any difference?

Not in canberra.

So you’re claiming that the laws of physics operate differently in Canberra? Hope you have a source for that.

Canberra isn’t very cold, so the sorts of double glazing niceties that matter in Trondheim and Skarfskerry may not be worth extra cost where the coldest-case-scenario is around minus 8.5.

What about heating and cooling costs, in Canberra? Not too extreme, but could still be enough to make some savings. Some calculation along those lines. I expect there’s something to it.

As for Argon, it’s a noble gas. Doesn’t interact with other stuff (or even itself I think?). It’s like a bunch of silent vow monks. That’d make a good insulator. Seems about right.

(A vacuum would do better, but Argon pays better rent for the space).

Didn’t know it was used in windows. Interesting to bring that up, dungfungus.

Masquara 11:29 am 26 Jul 14

davo101 said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

dungfungus said :

Does argon gas in between the two panes of glass make any difference?

Not in canberra.

So you’re claiming that the laws of physics operate differently in Canberra? Hope you have a source for that.

Canberra isn’t very cold, so the sorts of double glazing niceties that matter in Trondheim and Skarfskerry may not be worth extra cost where the coldest-case-scenario is around minus 8.5.

davo101 10:16 am 26 Jul 14

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

dungfungus said :

Does argon gas in between the two panes of glass make any difference?

Not in canberra.

So you’re claiming that the laws of physics operate differently in Canberra? Hope you have a source for that.

Maya123 10:22 pm 25 Jul 14

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Maya123 said :

Make sure the gap between the glass is wide enough. 12mm I have read is a good distance. Don’t get double glazing with the 6mm gaps; it isn’t enough. Also check how good the seals are; it varies.
If you get aluminium frames make sure they have thermal breaks, or the cold/heat will go straight through them. Get pale coloured ones too. Years ago I was told in a lecture on double glazing that the insulation of a double glazed aluminium framed window without thermal break, was no better than a single glazed wooden framed window. Wooden frames are even better insulation, but not everyone likes the clunky look, or the extra maintenance.
Unfortunately many cheaper aluminium framed windows have no thermal break, and when I was buying them a couple of years ago, also only about 6mm between the glass panes. I paid extra and bought windows with wider gaps and thermal breaks. Don’t necessarily believe the sales person; do your own research, as after all, they have to sell their product.

Not entirely true. 6mm gap with the correct combination of glass is far mre effective than two pieces of float glass with a 12mm gap.

It is not a matter (or shouldn’t be) of that or that. It’s the matter of a combination of the best glass AND the best gap. 6mm is too little.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 10:10 pm 25 Jul 14

dungfungus said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Maya123 said :

Make sure the gap between the glass is wide enough. 12mm I have read is a good distance. Don’t get double glazing with the 6mm gaps; it isn’t enough. Also check how good the seals are; it varies.
If you get aluminium frames make sure they have thermal breaks, or the cold/heat will go straight through them. Get pale coloured ones too. Years ago I was told in a lecture on double glazing that the insulation of a double glazed aluminium framed window without thermal break, was no better than a single glazed wooden framed window. Wooden frames are even better insulation, but not everyone likes the clunky look, or the extra maintenance.
Unfortunately many cheaper aluminium framed windows have no thermal break, and when I was buying them a couple of years ago, also only about 6mm between the glass panes. I paid extra and bought windows with wider gaps and thermal breaks. Don’t necessarily believe the sales person; do your own research, as after all, they have to sell their product.

Not entirely true. 6mm gap with the correct combination of glass is far mre effective than two pieces of float glass with a 12mm gap.

Does argon gas in between the two panes of glass make any difference?

Not in canberra.

dungfungus 9:00 pm 25 Jul 14

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Maya123 said :

Make sure the gap between the glass is wide enough. 12mm I have read is a good distance. Don’t get double glazing with the 6mm gaps; it isn’t enough. Also check how good the seals are; it varies.
If you get aluminium frames make sure they have thermal breaks, or the cold/heat will go straight through them. Get pale coloured ones too. Years ago I was told in a lecture on double glazing that the insulation of a double glazed aluminium framed window without thermal break, was no better than a single glazed wooden framed window. Wooden frames are even better insulation, but not everyone likes the clunky look, or the extra maintenance.
Unfortunately many cheaper aluminium framed windows have no thermal break, and when I was buying them a couple of years ago, also only about 6mm between the glass panes. I paid extra and bought windows with wider gaps and thermal breaks. Don’t necessarily believe the sales person; do your own research, as after all, they have to sell their product.

Not entirely true. 6mm gap with the correct combination of glass is far mre effective than two pieces of float glass with a 12mm gap.

Does argon gas in between the two panes of glass make any difference?

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 7:57 pm 25 Jul 14

Maya123 said :

Make sure the gap between the glass is wide enough. 12mm I have read is a good distance. Don’t get double glazing with the 6mm gaps; it isn’t enough. Also check how good the seals are; it varies.
If you get aluminium frames make sure they have thermal breaks, or the cold/heat will go straight through them. Get pale coloured ones too. Years ago I was told in a lecture on double glazing that the insulation of a double glazed aluminium framed window without thermal break, was no better than a single glazed wooden framed window. Wooden frames are even better insulation, but not everyone likes the clunky look, or the extra maintenance.
Unfortunately many cheaper aluminium framed windows have no thermal break, and when I was buying them a couple of years ago, also only about 6mm between the glass panes. I paid extra and bought windows with wider gaps and thermal breaks. Don’t necessarily believe the sales person; do your own research, as after all, they have to sell their product.

Not entirely true. 6mm gap with the correct combination of glass is far mre effective than two pieces of float glass with a 12mm gap.

Maya123 4:57 pm 25 Jul 14

Make sure the gap between the glass is wide enough. 12mm I have read is a good distance. Don’t get double glazing with the 6mm gaps; it isn’t enough. Also check how good the seals are; it varies.
If you get aluminium frames make sure they have thermal breaks, or the cold/heat will go straight through them. Get pale coloured ones too. Years ago I was told in a lecture on double glazing that the insulation of a double glazed aluminium framed window without thermal break, was no better than a single glazed wooden framed window. Wooden frames are even better insulation, but not everyone likes the clunky look, or the extra maintenance.
Unfortunately many cheaper aluminium framed windows have no thermal break, and when I was buying them a couple of years ago, also only about 6mm between the glass panes. I paid extra and bought windows with wider gaps and thermal breaks. Don’t necessarily believe the sales person; do your own research, as after all, they have to sell their product.

cranky 2:12 pm 25 Jul 14

Surely efficient double glazing will inhibit the take-up of heat into interior thermal masses?

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 9:13 am 25 Jul 14

Magnetite ACT said :

Hi all,

I am Michael from Magnetite Windows in Mitchell. We specialise in converting exisiting windows into double glazed.

There are a few companies in Canberra that can provide double glazing but like all things in this world you do have to be careful that you are getting a product that is going to perform how you plan.

My recommendation, as suggested by a few already, is to do some comparison on the WERS (Window energy rating scheme) website. That way you can see from a third party what kind of performance you will get with each option. Go to http://www.wers.net/werscontent/certified-products-residential and look up the company of your choice. It gives % improvements for both summer and winter scenarios.

You will note on there that Aluminium framed windows (Single or double glazerd) reduces the overall performance of the window considerably so I would really consider going with either timber or PVC framed double glazing if you are doing a new home or choose to replace your windows.

The best alternative (Our company :-)) is Magnetite, a very cost effective way of achieving one of the best performance windows available in Australia, without the hassles of replacement.

Being in operation in Canberra for 12 years we have great experience and we have won Australian Business Awards for “Best Value”, “Product Excellence” and “Service Excellence” over the years.

Our independent results that indicate how well Magnetite works are found here http://werscpd.net.barberry.arvixe.com/table.aspx?Manufacturer=MAGNETITEACT

We have solutions for all types of Windows, Doors, Sliding Doors, Skylights etc

Here is a great video explaining how Magnetite works http://www.magnetite.com.au/how-magnetite-works.aspx

We offer free no obligation quotes so give us a call to organise an assessment of your windows
6255-7220.

Happy Double Glazing.

Regards,
Michael

What you say about aluminium frames is correct, but does not really apply in canberra. Double glazed aluminium windows are great here.

Everyone needs to be aware that while upvc windows perform well, that they are not designed to have security screens or doors in most cases.
Now there are ways to make it work, but it involves special packing material and makes the finished product nt look the best.

From what I have seen, magnetite is a good option for thermal and sound reasons, but ugly.

dungfungus 9:12 am 25 Jul 14

Go to “related content” and read the previous threads.
If your windows are still in good condition and they do not leak it would be better (and far cheaper) to look at one of the plastic sheetings that are available as you will get the same result.
Replacing windows is pretty brutal and you can expect sill tiles (that may not be available anymore) to be smashed. Are you aware that the reveals and architraves need to be replaced and painted as well?

Jacky 8:13 am 25 Jul 14

I am looking to retrofit double glazing – has anyone got any recommendations. Please don’t repeat any advice about DIY jobs involving Perspex or plastic sheeting as I am not going down that route. I have asked for several quotes from companies, but would really appreciate word of mouth recommendations (or warnings about ripoff companies and shoddy work). Thank you!

Magnetite ACT 8:48 am 12 Jun 14

Hi all,

I am Michael from Magnetite Windows in Mitchell. We specialise in converting exisiting windows into double glazed.

There are a few companies in Canberra that can provide double glazing but like all things in this world you do have to be careful that you are getting a product that is going to perform how you plan.

My recommendation, as suggested by a few already, is to do some comparison on the WERS (Window energy rating scheme) website. That way you can see from a third party what kind of performance you will get with each option. Go to http://www.wers.net/werscontent/certified-products-residential and look up the company of your choice. It gives % improvements for both summer and winter scenarios.

You will note on there that Aluminium framed windows (Single or double glazerd) reduces the overall performance of the window considerably so I would really consider going with either timber or PVC framed double glazing if you are doing a new home or choose to replace your windows.

The best alternative (Our company :-)) is Magnetite, a very cost effective way of achieving one of the best performance windows available in Australia, without the hassles of replacement.

Being in operation in Canberra for 12 years we have great experience and we have won Australian Business Awards for “Best Value”, “Product Excellence” and “Service Excellence” over the years.

Our independent results that indicate how well Magnetite works are found here http://werscpd.net.barberry.arvixe.com/table.aspx?Manufacturer=MAGNETITEACT

We have solutions for all types of Windows, Doors, Sliding Doors, Skylights etc

Here is a great video explaining how Magnetite works http://www.magnetite.com.au/how-magnetite-works.aspx

We offer free no obligation quotes so give us a call to organise an assessment of your windows
6255-7220.

Happy Double Glazing.

Regards,
Michael

JimCharles 7:27 pm 14 May 14

Maya123 said :

JimCharles said :

Enezeusa said :

Thank you all for your comments.

Two questions:

Is it possible to get a free insulation assessment for my house?

Is there anyone in Canberra you would recommend to do the jobs? (assessment and double glazing)

I don’t know if it’s free for assessment, but there’s a firm in Woden who are now importing UPVC units from Ireland. Don’t know the cost, i guess with importing and this current need to charge Canberra prices for the staff wages might make it stack up a lot.
I can’t understand why nobody’s set up a manufacturer here, it’s not technically hard. I bought mine in England from a little company, they basically order the materials and put them together in a large garage, knocked out the old windows, slotted them into the existing holes.. .we didn’t even need to re-plaster or paint more than an inch. Took a day.

I had fun at Googong walking round the excellent expensive display homes asking why some of them had no double glazing whatsoever. Windy day, gas fires on, but you could feel the draft and the coldness round the windows. It’s not just about the heating bills, it just makes the place feel as if it’s got quality, feels more solid and comfortable.
You don’t need the whole house doing, but the difference in just getting some done is amazing.

The argument that Canberra doesn’t need it is ridiculous, they use it in America in similar climates and sun exposures, even just to feel you’ve built yourself a quality home.

The sad thing is that saying double glazing makes people “feel you’ve built yourself a quality home” might be more effective to get some people to include double glazing than saying that it cuts down heating bills, etc. It appears to me that the look and impression (big house, with entertainment room, theatre, several bathrooms, etc) is more important to many people than spending the same money on a more energy efficient house, because that, for the same money, might be smaller, and in their mind less showy.
“Windy day, gas fires on” In an energy efficient house, chances are on that same day it might not need to have that gas fire on.

It might be. It’s not just heating, it’s cooling.
I went to a refurbed home LEED assessment in Atlanta once, similar to Canberra with cold winters and hot summers, but much more humidity in their summer so breathing was hard and it’s much sweatier.
To prove the efficiency of insulation and workmanship, they leave all the internal doors open, tape a huge powerful vacuum over the front door, then switch it on. If any internal doors move, it fails because there’s a gap somewhere in the house because it’s drawing air from outside. Pass and you get a decent tax break. This house passed, they used to have their air con blowing all summer before the refurb, afterwards hardly needed it at all. Saved a fortune in electricity over summer, much more than needing more gas in winter.

Hosinator 1:30 pm 14 May 14

These guys are based out of Sydney, but they do install in Canberra. They manufacture the windows in Sydney based on a German design.

http://www.kinzelindustries.com.au/

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