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Downer murderer asks to be shielded from victims’ families

By johnboy 17 May 2011 48

The Canberra Times reports that Scott McDougall’s lawyers are asking the court to to spare him from facing the families of Struan Bolas and Julie Tattersall whom he brutally murdered in Downer in 2008 when he is sentenced.

Normally an important part of justice for families of victims is seeing the sentence delivered in person.

But having had some dealings with elements from the familes in the years since the murder we here at RiotACT have a great deal of sympathy for the request.

Let’s just say they’re a special mob justifying at least a special request.

Justice Gray is considering it.

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Mr Gillespie 12:00 am 22 May 11

Jethro #46

1. This thread has got nothing to do with drink-driving

2. For your information, what I have said never condoned drink-driving

….so think again before you go looking for something to sling mud at me about, and try doing it in a different thread. A DUI-related thread, perhaps?

cleo 10:38 pm 20 May 11

Lookout Smithers # 45

Yes well I suppose everyone is different how they feel, I sure a lot of your family feel differently, at least the person who murdered Jules was caught within hours, and he won’t be out of prison for a long long time, and he cannot do this to anyone else, that’s how I look at it, I wouldn’t want anyone to go through this, it has changed lives forever.
It will never bring loved one’s back, there is no professional pitch on my behalf, and I can’t see that one can just cut oneself from emotions off, sometimes people are in denial, it comes out later on, and is worse.

Jethro 6:59 am 20 May 11

Mr Gillespie said :

No, no, you and the other idiots bringing irrelevant crap into this thread are the stupid ones.

I have my reasons for calling for this one to be “hung high”, as you put it. Those reasons have got nothing to do with vultures hiding behind bushes on the side of the road.

The stupid ones are the ones who do what they can to discredit me, by bringing Erin Molan into it, bringing my opinions about other issues into it, and trying to make it into a law-and-order issue to try and make it look relevant.

I have lost 2 family members… 1 to a drink driver and 1 in an unsolved murder… the feeling of loss is the same. So, Mr G, I don’t think it is irrelevant to point out that you are a hypocrite for your disregard of road rules and the contempt you express towards police officers engaged in activities to reduce the road toll and your venom-filled hatred of murderers.

Lookout Smithers 12:12 am 20 May 11

cleo said :

Lookout Smithers # 36

Yes it would be hard for you to understand, if you had never experienced anything of this nature, alot of people don’t understand murder, and the effects on family and friends.
These family victim’s need to be in court to see that justice is done, and to honour their loved one’s, also respect.
The murderer would not want to attend court as he has lost his confidence to face family’s, no more smirking at them in court, as that is what happened, now that he has been charged with double murder, he knows he’s finished.
I’m sure the family’s don’t want to look at him.

I have lost a closed family member to a horrible murder. It remains unsolved to date so I have not been in the same position. But it would bring little comfort to me anyway. Changes nothing of the experience and everything it came with. Others feel differently, but everyone feels how they feel. Crisis management is all I see it as. Don’t be too quick to assume that everyone does the professional victim pitch.

Mr Gillespie 11:24 pm 19 May 11

Jethro said :

………..
You could and you would continue to make yourself look more and more stupid.

Dangerous and illegal driving threatens the lives of other people and regularly kills other people. We all know this. Therefore, those who continue to drive like this are wilfully putting the lives of other people at risk.

To reference your first example, people who eat themselves to death are hurting no-one but themselves. People who wilfully and deliberately drive like idiots are not just hurting themselves.

This is why people are calling you on your hypocrisy. You are a ‘hang him high’ type of guy when it comes to someone else’s crimes, but are a hard-done-by good guy being persecuted by an unfair police force when you get in trouble for the ones that you commit.

No, no, you and the other idiots bringing irrelevant crap into this thread are the stupid ones.

I have my reasons for calling for this one to be “hung high”, as you put it. Those reasons have got nothing to do with vultures hiding behind bushes on the side of the road.

The stupid ones are the ones who do what they can to discredit me, by bringing Erin Molan into it, bringing my opinions about other issues into it, and trying to make it into a law-and-order issue to try and make it look relevant.

cleo 9:12 pm 19 May 11

LSWCHP # 32

No one deserves to die like these two innocent victims, NO ONE! It has nothing to do with a person’s past, this monster murdered his friends.
I know Straun’s daughter, she is a beautiful young women, just very sad all round for the family’s and friends.

Jethro 7:41 pm 19 May 11

Mr Gillespie said :

OK Jethro and Jim Jones, seeing as you are so determined to shoot me down because I have argued against speeding fines and enforcement, arguing about all the families of those killed in road accidents every year and all that, well, how about we start with a suggestion to ban junk food, for instance.

I justify why junk food shouldn’t be banned. I should be able to eat what I bloody well like. I don’t believe in rules about what people can and can’t eat

You say well tell that to the 100000s of families of people who die of heart disease because they ate junk food.

Or how about this. Let’s ban the car, and that will eliminate all road accidents altogether. Oh wait a minute, let’s ban trucks, busses, trains, and all other forms of transport because people get killed being run over by trucks, busses, trains, etc. But I say we need transport otherwise we can’t get from A to B. you say tell that to the 10000000s of families of people killed in such accidents every year.

Or you could say, ban aeroplanes, because people die in plane crashes. I say you can’t ban aeroplanes because we wouldn’t be able to fly. You say, tell that to the 2340000000 families of people who died in plane crashes.

I could go on like this forever…….

You could and you would continue to make yourself look more and more stupid.

Dangerous and illegal driving threatens the lives of other people and regularly kills other people. We all know this. Therefore, those who continue to drive like this are wilfully putting the lives of other people at risk.

To reference your first example, people who eat themselves to death are hurting no-one but themselves. People who wilfully and deliberately drive like idiots are not just hurting themselves.

This is why people are calling you on your hypocrisy. You are a ‘hang him high’ type of guy when it comes to someone else’s crimes, but are a hard-done-by good guy being persecuted by an unfair police force when you get in trouble for the ones that you commit.

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