Drink and Drug courses for impaired drivers

johnboy 21 November 2011 16

Simon Corbell has the thrilling news that there will be a compulsory course for those wanting their licences back after drink or drug driving convictions:

“From 25 November 2011, a person who commits a drink or drug driving offence will be required to complete a mandatory awareness course in order to regain or retain their driver licence.

“Mandatory alcohol and drug awareness courses will provide an important way for offenders to recognise the impact of their actions on the community and help address any potential issues they face,” he said.

Mr Corbell said the courses would raise awareness of the effects of alcohol and drugs, including their effects on driving and health.

“In the ACT, low-range drink driving and drug driving offenders along with first time offenders will be required to undertake an awareness course focusing on education, while a therapeutic awareness course will be mandatory for mid to high-range drink drivers and repeat offenders,” he said.

“The Government has engaged the services of two expert consultants to conduct the Road Transport Authority-approved courses.”

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merlin bodega merlin bodega 8:52 pm 21 Nov 11

Interesting policy but the last time I looked the lack of a driver’s licence is apparently not a disincentive to drink and drive. Maybe a course designed by two expert consultants will do the trick. Who knows? Let’s hope it not the usual Messrs Flim and Flam handing out the bright ideas to the Government this time.

Lazy I Lazy I 10:09 pm 21 Nov 11

Ladies take note!, RSVP is no longer the no.1 source for Canberra’s finest.

Get yourself on one of these courses and you will gain access to a plethora of high quality potential mates with no need to buy those pesky virtual stamps!

Mumbucks Mumbucks 10:59 pm 21 Nov 11

Therapeutic awareness course? Who’s fooling who?

Henry82 Henry82 11:16 pm 21 Nov 11

According to TAMS if you’re caught drink driving (and retain your license) its business as usual, and then you have 6 months to complete the course. i.e. you get to drive for 6 months, after which, if you haven’t completed the course – you lose your license.

The standard course (for low level DD) is 2 hrs long, and the “extended” course (for high level DD and repeat offenders) is 3 hrs long. No mention of costs.

Cheap Cheap 11:33 pm 21 Nov 11

More bulls*** designed to sound good rather than actually help people. Not long ago I had to go through a “drug diversion program” after being caught with about 1 gram of weed. It involved talking to a counselor for 40 mins, telling her what she wanted to hear and then I was on my way. All courtesy of the tax payer of course, I didn’t have to pay a cent.

bd84 bd84 11:43 pm 21 Nov 11

Habitual drink drivers should have their cars crushed then sent to jail. They should also have to regain their licence from scratch.

bigfeet bigfeet 12:35 am 22 Nov 11

bd84 said :

Habitual drink drivers should have their cars crushed then sent to jail.

There isn’t even enough room in the jail for prisoners at the moment, and now you want to clutter it up with crushed cars as well?

Deref Deref 7:05 am 22 Nov 11

I think that’s a great idea. People who drink and drive or who drive whilst stoned out of their gourds are clearly doing it because they don’t know that it’s a bad idea. Once the know, they’ll stop.

dvaey dvaey 9:16 am 22 Nov 11

Im curious, if a driver with ADD tests positive to amphetamine (the one theyre prescribed by their doctor), do they still have to undergo this course? What exactly will that course teach them, other than the fact that their medication can be abused by some people, and probably scare them off taking it again (just what we need, lots of unmedicated ADD patients wandering around).

On the other hand, I wonder if this course will apply to people who are caught driving while under the influence of cough medicine, over-the-counter tranquilizers or painkillers, or other drugs?

The answer to the second one is an obvious one.. it doesnt apply because as bad as those drugs are, there is no testing or legislation to cover them, like there is for opiate, weed and amphetamine.

(Oh, wait, thats right, opiates arent tested for either)

Henry82 Henry82 3:32 pm 22 Nov 11

dvaey said :

Im curious, if a driver with ADD tests positive to amphetamine (the one theyre prescribed by their doctor), do they still have to undergo this course? .

On the other hand, I wonder if this course will apply to people who are caught driving while under the influence of cough medicine, over-the-counter tranquilizers or painkillers, or other drugs

If you’re on 0.00 BAC, then you can’t have alcohol based medicines. There are many warnings about this when doing your Learners. Apparently NSW learners/Ps used to have a 0.01 BAC to account for medicine, however people abused it so they dropped it back to 0.00

As for your medication comment: straight off the TAC website: “The saliva tests do not detect prescription drugs or common medications such as cold and flu tablets.” I suspect they’re not accurate enough (and if they are, you’re probably heavily drugged and shouldn’t be driving).

Solidarity Solidarity 4:23 pm 22 Nov 11

They should just set up dedicated drink driving lanes!

Jim Jones Jim Jones 4:31 pm 22 Nov 11

Solidarity said :

They should just set up dedicated drink driving lanes!

+1

Classified Classified 4:37 pm 22 Nov 11

Solidarity said :

They should just set up dedicated drink driving lanes!

D2?

dvaey dvaey 6:42 pm 22 Nov 11

Henry82 said :

dvaey said :

Im curious, if a driver with ADD tests positive to amphetamine (the one theyre prescribed by their doctor), do they still have to undergo this course?

As for your medication comment: straight off the TAC website: “The saliva tests do not detect prescription drugs or common medications such as cold and flu tablets.” I suspect they’re not accurate enough (and if they are, you’re probably heavily drugged and shouldn’t be driving).

So in other words, theyre only testing for the illegal substances, not all (or relatively, any) impairing substances. However, what if as I suggested, a patient is prescribed dexamphetamine by their doctor.. that will test positive on a roadside test for amphetamine.

I have to wonder how a 0.01 BAC can possibly be seen to be ‘abused’?

eily eily 8:07 pm 22 Nov 11

Solidarity said :

They should just set up dedicated drink driving lanes!

They already have. They’re called roads.

Henry82 Henry82 2:44 pm 23 Nov 11

dvaey said :

So in other words, theyre only testing for the illegal substances, not all (or relatively, any) impairing substances. I have to wonder how a 0.01 BAC can possibly be seen to be ‘abused’?

Apparently its only testing for: THC, Methylamphetamine, and MDMA. I suspect its to do with the sensitivity of the device.

Maybe ‘abused’ wasn’t the right word. But apparently many P platers would get pulled over (after having drinks) and say they were aiming for under 0.01. Even the guideline for drinks. 2 in the first hour, and 1 after is to be under 0.05.

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