21 June 2012

Driving an unregistered car

| Solidarity
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Hi RiotACT,

I need to take my new car for an inspection so I can get registration, it’s a Toyota Landcruiser.

Unfortunantly I need to drive it to a workshop to get it checked out to make sure it’s roadworthy, as it’s over 6 years old.

Do you require an unregistered vehicle permit to drive a car to a workshop for the purpose of obtaining registration? In NSW you don’t, a few people i’ve asked have said yes, the others no. Even Canberra Connect are unsure.

Thankyou

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1337Hax0r said :

There’s a number 000. Dial it each time you see that happen.

Are you really advocating calling 000 for an unregistered vehicle? How thick are you?

So an unregistered 2004/05 Toyota Landcruiser is travelling around town.
Good thing you haven’t told anyone.

Just go get it done!

nah, stick an esky with a cold case of tinnies in on the passenger seat – don’t worry about that pesky seatbelt – and hightail it wherever you wanna go, as those keystone cops never catch anyone anyway. not like the point to point cameras will make you stop… but if you’re nabbed, don’t mention my advice.

Dilandach said :

If you’re like the guy who lives around the corner from me… apparently not. Heck, you don’t even need license plates. To top it off, three cars with no rego, no license plates that are regularly driven.

How he gets away with it, I don’t know.

(Yes I have seen him driving around, he picks up his kids from weetangera. A dark blue falcon is one of the cars.)

There’s a number 000. Dial it each time you see that happen. Just for fun, there are things called cameras. Use them, email JB with the pics. Oh, have you heard of video cameras? They’re hella fun for situations like this.

Innovation said :

If your vehicle is 10 years old or less you may also need to get a vehicle identity check, which can only been done after you have passed inspection.

Identity check isn’t required if the vehicle was purchased from a Licenced motor dealer or you previously had it registered in your name interstate.

screaming banshee said :

Dilandach said :

If you’re like the guy who lives around the corner from me… apparently not. Heck, you don’t even need license plates. To top it off, three cars with no rego, no license plates that are regularly driven.

How he gets away with it, I don’t know.

(Yes I have seen him driving around, he picks up his kids from weetangera. A dark blue falcon is one of the cars.)

And of course you have reported them to the authoritares

I’ll just take down his number pl… oh wait

screaming banshee5:01 pm 21 Jun 12

Dilandach said :

If you’re like the guy who lives around the corner from me… apparently not. Heck, you don’t even need license plates. To top it off, three cars with no rego, no license plates that are regularly driven.

How he gets away with it, I don’t know.

(Yes I have seen him driving around, he picks up his kids from weetangera. A dark blue falcon is one of the cars.)

And of course you have reported them to the authoritares

A towie should be able to get you to a reputable mechanic for around $80 if he is being nice. Around $100 or so if he is a tight @ss. Money much better spent than a $950 plus fine for no rego/insurance.

If your vehicle is 10 years old or less you may also need to get a vehicle identity check, which can only been done after you have passed inspection.

Ex Warrior said :

p1 said :

Last I checked, yes you do…..

Incorrect due to the vehicle towing the trailer having CTP. I was advised that you may tow an unregistered trailer to a insection station unregistered.

Interesting. You must have spoken to a different person then me.

Who would be a definitive source on this? I am a little hesitant to take the word of anyone, even ACT Gov’t employees at risk of then being pulled over by the cops and fined.

Its probably not worth registering, take the 1.9mill to 1 chance you’ll be pulled over chance ,it will be defected anyway!

p1 said :

Last I checked, yes you do. You need an unregistered vehicle permit to move it any where in public. It has a cost attached, and comes in either 1 day or 1 week options.

ACT govt wanted to charge $28 for a one day permit so that I could take my trailer to a rego inspection in order to put a whole years rego on for about $60….

The NSW system is much more user friendly.

Incorrect due to the vehicle towing the trailer having CTP. I was advised that you may tow an unregistered trailer to a insection station unregistered.

CoffinRX2 said :

Havok, you can only get a 1 week one if its within 28 days of rego expiry (or could be 14 days, not sure) or if it has failed/passed an inspection and its ticked on the inspection report that an Unrestricted UVP is allowed.

Otherwise its 1 day, between normal business hours only

You can get a week-long permit if the vehicle has been unregistered in the ACT for less than 12 months, or if over 12 months has failed/passed an inspection within 30 days.

Single day permits run from 7am-7pm. The cost difference between the two is negligible. ($58 for a single day when I bought one a couple of months ago.)

Sorry I should point out its nsw rego that has lapsed, so section 14 point ii I’m interested in…

Felix the Cat3:23 pm 21 Jun 12

And permit only valid within ACT

Solidarity said :

It reads to me like you don’t need one is all, but all this legislation stuff confuses me anyway…

14 Vehicles temporarily in the ACT
(1) The registration provisions do not apply to a registrable vehicle that is temporarily in the ACT if—
(a) the vehicle is—
(i) registered under the law of another jurisdiction, external territory or foreign country; or
(ii) permitted under a relevant law of another jurisdiction to be used on a road or road related area in that jurisdiction, even though it is unregistered; and
(b) the vehicle has the numberplates and labels required under that law; and
(c) the numberplates and labels comply fully with that law; and
(d) if the vehicle is unregistered—the vehicle is being used in accordance with the conditions (if any) of the permit or other authority applying to the vehicle under that law, so far as they can be applied to the use of the vehicle in the ACT.

22 Vehicles being driven to obtain registration etc
(1) The registration provisions do not apply to a registrable vehicle while it is being driven, for the purpose of obtaining registration of the vehicle, by the most direct or convenient route—
(a) to the nearest convenient designated place; or
(b) to the nearest convenient vehicle inspection station or authorised examiner to find out whether the vehicle complies with the applicable vehicle standards; or
(c) to the nearest convenient weighbridge to find out the weight of the vehicle.
(2) The registration provisions do not apply to a registrable vehicle while it is being driven, for the purpose of obtaining registration of the vehicle, in the course of inspection or testing of the vehicle to find out whether the vehicle complies with the applicable vehicle standards.
(3) The registration provisions do not apply to a registrable vehicle while it is being driven, for the purpose of obtaining an unregistered vehicle permit for the vehicle, by the most direct or convenient route to the nearest convenient place where the permit can be obtained for the vehicle.
(4) This section applies to a registrable vehicle only if a third-party policy is in force for the vehicle.

(4) is the key term here, … CTP extends for 14 days after the expiry of your rego.

If you have no CTP then you need the UVP

Havok, you can only get a 1 week one if its within 28 days of rego expiry (or could be 14 days, not sure) or if it has failed/passed an inspection and its ticked on the inspection report that an Unrestricted UVP is allowed.

Otherwise its 1 day, between normal business hours only

It reads to me like you don’t need one is all, but all this legislation stuff confuses me anyway…

14 Vehicles temporarily in the ACT
(1) The registration provisions do not apply to a registrable vehicle that is temporarily in the ACT if—
(a) the vehicle is—
(i) registered under the law of another jurisdiction, external territory or foreign country; or
(ii) permitted under a relevant law of another jurisdiction to be used on a road or road related area in that jurisdiction, even though it is unregistered; and
(b) the vehicle has the numberplates and labels required under that law; and
(c) the numberplates and labels comply fully with that law; and
(d) if the vehicle is unregistered—the vehicle is being used in accordance with the conditions (if any) of the permit or other authority applying to the vehicle under that law, so far as they can be applied to the use of the vehicle in the ACT.

22 Vehicles being driven to obtain registration etc
(1) The registration provisions do not apply to a registrable vehicle while it is being driven, for the purpose of obtaining registration of the vehicle, by the most direct or convenient route—
(a) to the nearest convenient designated place; or
(b) to the nearest convenient vehicle inspection station or authorised examiner to find out whether the vehicle complies with the applicable vehicle standards; or
(c) to the nearest convenient weighbridge to find out the weight of the vehicle.
(2) The registration provisions do not apply to a registrable vehicle while it is being driven, for the purpose of obtaining registration of the vehicle, in the course of inspection or testing of the vehicle to find out whether the vehicle complies with the applicable vehicle standards.
(3) The registration provisions do not apply to a registrable vehicle while it is being driven, for the purpose of obtaining an unregistered vehicle permit for the vehicle, by the most direct or convenient route to the nearest convenient place where the permit can be obtained for the vehicle.
(4) This section applies to a registrable vehicle only if a third-party policy is in force for the vehicle.

If you’re like the guy who lives around the corner from me… apparently not. Heck, you don’t even need license plates. To top it off, three cars with no rego, no license plates that are regularly driven.

How he gets away with it, I don’t know.

(Yes I have seen him driving around, he picks up his kids from weetangera. A dark blue falcon is one of the cars.)

yes, you do need a permit.

Its really easy, takes 5 minutes (other than the wait at the registry) and it means you are covered by insurance. Otherwise its about $950 in fines (unregistered is 1 and uninsured is another) if they catch you – they don’t have a sense of humour about it either, trust me…

You need a permit to drive an unregistered vehicle. And they are expensive!
Surprised Canberra Connect didn’t know, its the first hit in everyone’s favourite search algorithm website:
http://www.rego.act.gov.au/registrations/regomoveunreg.htm

It’s like $40 for 1 day and $46 for a week. Get a week! All you need to take in is ID and a copy of the VIN and rego number

Last I checked, yes you do. You need an unregistered vehicle permit to move it any where in public. It has a cost attached, and comes in either 1 day or 1 week options.

ACT govt wanted to charge $28 for a one day permit so that I could take my trailer to a rego inspection in order to put a whole years rego on for about $60….

The NSW system is much more user friendly.

here ya go: http://www.rego.act.gov.au/registrations/regomoveunreg.htm

You need a unregistered vehicle permit (UVP). They’re pretty cheap, IIRC. For reference, a fine driving unregistered is upward of $1k.

Yes you need an Unregistered Vehicle Permit to take it to inspection

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