Dunlop man charged with child sex offences

Thumper 14 May 2008 50

The Sydney Morning Herald is reporting that a 57-year-old Canberra man has been charged with child sex offences following a tip-off from the US Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI).

The man, from Dunlop in Canberra’s north-west, will face the ACT Magistrates Court on Wednesday on several charges including two counts of using a carriage service to groom and procure a person under 16.

pollice are alleging that the man contacted two boys aged 12 and 14 via internet chat rooms, sending them sexually-explicit images and messages.


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Deadmandrinking Deadmandrinking 11:35 am 16 May 08

I’m pretty sure they cannot go near schools, playgroups etc.

tap tap 11:32 am 16 May 08

The restriction of movements would be interesting to nut out. Does anyone know what is currently done? Im fairly sure they have to notify authorities of where they are etc…? And yeah agreed about mental hospitals.

Deadmandrinking Deadmandrinking 10:47 am 16 May 08

Send them to a mental hospital for a long stay, then restrict their movements for the rest of their lives. It sounds non-productive, but it’s pretty much the only thing we can do. The crime is just too heinous.

tap tap 9:36 am 16 May 08

So if they are untreatable, then what? They should definately not ever be in the position to do it again, yet they are human beings and deserve their civil liberties. Its so hard. DMD is right, prevention rather than treatment would by far be the better outcome. However thats not going to solve the dilemma of what to do now.

Thumper Thumper 7:55 am 16 May 08

As for rehabilitation. Yes I agree these people have a screw loose. I don’t think this can be fixed

I believe studies have conclusively shown that rehabilitation is next to impossible in this case.

If I can find a link sometime today I’ll post it.

ant ant 10:10 pm 15 May 08

Julius Constantius said :

In America I have heard they publicise the address and other details of sex offenders. I was never very sure how true this was,

Oh, it’s true all right! They have an accessible Sex Offenders Register. See it used to great effect in this little Internet Incident that happened over Christmas… Moral, don’t spam car forums and annoy people enough to expose you as a convicted sex offender.

http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=98489

stray stray 10:01 pm 15 May 08

this type of thing always scares and confuses me so much.
as DmD said,it comes from all homes, all levels of society, education lifestyle,etc.
so whats to say this person couldnt be our partner, brother, uncle, father, best mate….it is just so scary that they can be in a state of so much pain/denial/desire that it can happen, and repeatedlly?

makes my bleeding/commie/pinko heart go out to all those babies/adults who are hurting so much as a result of this behaviour/nature. (just look at our fellow RA-ters in the marist thread) but again, as some have said,if they were my (hypothetical) kids?!? phwoar…vengence and wrath, people.

🙁
hope whatever happens, its in the best interests so all can heal.

Deadmandrinking Deadmandrinking 9:01 pm 15 May 08

Special G, I honestly don’t know if it can be fixed either. But if there is a way, it should be addressed. It is a shockingly commonplace disorder. If you remember the last big child-porn busts, they were netting hundreds of people from all areas of society. It would be a massive boon to lots of children and families if the early signs of pedophilia can be identified and treated.

For those who have crossed the line, I’m battling within myself to say what should be done once they’ve served their sentences. The logical side of me states that when someone has done the time, that’s it. Debt paid to society. Over. But the crime is so reprehensible, even worse than murder in some respects. The child’s life has been destroyed and they have to keep living it. The fact that this heinous act was committed out of an underlying and probably permanent desire within the offender causes me worry.

If they did figure out a way to ‘stop’ those desires, it would be good. But the victim remains deeply scarred and the offender, well, after the insanity that the disorder is has passed, I don’t know how they could live with themselves.

Special G Special G 7:55 pm 15 May 08

Settle down children.

Paedophiles will always bring out the emotion in people. Generally those with their own children will have some fairly strong views on the issue. Those without children will probably not understand how protective of little ones we might be.

My thoughts on the matter – lethal force is considered reasonable to stop an imminant threat of death or serious injury, to protect yourself or another – I consider rape of a little one serious injury, both physically and pyshologically.

As for rehabilitation. Yes I agree these people have a screw loose. I don’t think this can be fixed.

tap tap 7:42 pm 15 May 08

Maelinar: Talking about yourself in the third person now? Ok…

And yeah, you didn’t show a quote, or even acknowledge what I was saying. You’re not fooling anyone here (well maybe yourself) by trying to act above us. You were the first to insult in this post, you got called on it. We all see that you are the troll, and a fairly poor one at that.

Put me on whatever list you like, they are only of importance to you.

Deadmandrinking Deadmandrinking 6:57 pm 15 May 08

Julius, I remember watching a documentary or a current affairs report (something on SBS anyway) about the register. Apparently, there’s been massive problems with offenders who have had little age difference with their victims (i.e. a 16 yr old and a 14 yr old – everyone remember high school?). Whilst, technically speaking, they have committed an offense, they don’t fit into the same category as the ‘serious’ offenders, such as the guy who’s the subject of this thread. Unfortunately for those 17 year olds, their names stay on that register for a long time (perhaps the rest of their lives? Again, my memory’s sketchy), so they can’t get jobs easily, rent places easily and are open to attack by vigilantes.

In an idealistic society, the knowledge of the whereabouts of a potential danger to someone’s children would be public. Unfortunately we live in a society of morons, some violent, some who get their kicks dealing out mob justice. That, added to the publics detachment from the actual cases and circumstances, would make a public register a danger to preserving the rule of law and order.

Does anyone on here have any experience in psychology, btw? Some knowledge about any research into pedophilia, i.e. The causes, early warning signs and possible treatments, would be handy to this thread. I was talking to someone about this on a similar thread, but I can’t for the life of me remember who it was or what the title of the thread was.

Oh, and Maelinar, there’s only one troll here, that’s you. You are not contributing anything to this conversation. Go stick your brown list.

Mælinar Mælinar 6:25 pm 15 May 08

tap said :

Uh… the quote doesn’t mention DMD wanting to hug criminals… plus it was sarcastic. Plus your use of italics misquotes what he said. You find this quote, the one where either DMD or I say (and are not being sarcastic, I didn’t think i would have to add that but clearly your childishness knows no bounds) that hugging criminals is the best thing to do.

I know what it was Maelinar, you continually accuse me of not understanding you, again i say you are not that clever. And once again you have missed my point. I was demonstrating how absolutely ridiculous it is to demand backing up or proof of something that is clearly a throw away line.

Not so check mate. Just pedantic.

@Tap – I suppose its just a matter of your siding with WMD on too many occasions for me to count, so I have lumped the two of you together categorically.

However, I have said more than enough, yet again, and yet you two continually attempt to misconstrue everything placed in front of you on the basis of not comprehending what is placed in front of you, and only offering insults in response.

Neither you or WMD are good enough for Mælinar’s black list – there have been actually noteworthy characters in there the likes of Areaman and Bonfire, people who actually offered contrary evidence, and did more than simply heckle from the sides.

So welcome to the brown list. The rules are the same – I will talk about you, but not to you, until I see reason to change the circumstances. In a parting insult, your not even good enough to make Mælinar’s black list, you are second rate even to that.

Trolls.

tap tap 5:58 pm 15 May 08

What exactly does chemical castration do? Would it stop someone (who i assume must be a pretty full on case) from lusting after children? Or would it just stop them from being able to do anything? I ask because if its the former I think it is possible that the castratee could become even more of a menace.

peterh peterh 5:36 pm 15 May 08

what about chemical castration? certainly not going to make them keen about going near little kids – though if they went near mine, I would have to use rusty barbed wire as a castrating tool.

bugger a snipper rifle, no snipping.

Julius Constantius Julius Constantius 5:02 pm 15 May 08

In America I have heard they publicise the address and other details of sex offenders. I was never very sure how true this was, and I’m not total convinced by the following source but at the very least in is interesting and I do think it quite plausible. The link listed states that it has 8 registered sex offenders living in Reform in early 2007. According to the site they are located in Alabama (USA). This information scares me a little. I do believe there needs to be and I’m sure there is some kind of monitoring system for ex serious sex offenders (I’m not really sure how it works, if some could enlighten me?) But I don’t believe that any nutcase, self deluded vigilantly should have access to this information. I know this is a complicated subject and you really need to assess each case individually and I’m obviously not trying defended their actions, but I do think everyone has the right not to be living in fear of being killed by an angry mob, even if they are a sex offender in the process of reform. Tit for tat should not be answer for this serious offence.

They do include the following disclaimer

THE INFORMATION PROVIDED ON THIS SITE IS PROVIDED AS A PUBLIC SERVICE ONLY AND SHOULD NOT BE USED TO THREATEN, INTIMIDATE, OR HARASS. MISUSE OF THIS INFORMATION MAY RESULT IN CRIMINAL PROSECUTION.

I’m not sure how effective this would be in preventing people from attempting to harm the offender (not very I’m guessing), but it’s good to see they know how to cover their butt lol

http://www.city-data.com/so/so-Reform-Alabama.html

tap tap 4:59 pm 15 May 08

Skidblanir: Thats very true. I apologise for my part in derailing this post. I would love to guarantee that when Maelinar responds i wont respond again, but its hard to let it go man…

tap tap 4:56 pm 15 May 08

Uh… the quote doesn’t mention DMD wanting to hug criminals… plus it was sarcastic. Plus your use of italics misquotes what he said. You find this quote, the one where either DMD or I say (and are not being sarcastic, I didn’t think i would have to add that but clearly your childishness knows no bounds) that hugging criminals is the best thing to do.

I know what it was Maelinar, you continually accuse me of not understanding you, again i say you are not that clever. And once again you have missed my point. I was demonstrating how absolutely ridiculous it is to demand backing up or proof of something that is clearly a throw away line.

Not so check mate. Just pedantic.

Skidbladnir Skidbladnir 4:53 pm 15 May 08

@DeadMan & Maelinar:
Children, get back in your cages. Adults are talking about chld abuse here.

Woody Mann-Caruso Woody Mann-Caruso 4:40 pm 15 May 08

@Maelinar: no, I call DMD, WMD.

Ah. I’ll go back to my regularly scheduled drinking, then.

Mælinar Mælinar 4:37 pm 15 May 08

@tap – as our IT system is about to go down at work, a quick search has revealed no quotes, but I’ll find a decent one. In the interim you will have to simply rely on my assertion – although that you question it is remarkable since its been mentioned by more than just me in recent times.

#6 posted by Deadmandrinking 05:06, 9 May 2008
They should all be locked up for eternity. Their parents should be shot. The magistrate should be hung by an angry mob.

Am I fitting in now guys or what?

^^ is a nice one from WMD – actually I had a hard time distilling it down to a single comment, from the range of threads I managed to search.

Oops, the i fell through the ground, there must be a mole in the internet is actually a reference to the line above it, should you care to read, where I typed ‘sh.t’. I leave it to your cognitive reasoning skills and a couple of years before you get that one.

Claims.

Backed.

Up…

Checkmate…

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