25 November 2007

Election 07 - It's over

| Joe Canberran
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It’s over and I’m hungover like a really hung over thing after going to the Electionalia which was after a hard day handing out how to vote cards.

For those interested Humphries retained his senate seat (see the aec website for senate results here).

Oh and Labor won EVERYWHERE else, in the ACT and the rest of the country.

Now I’m going back to bed.

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Deadmandrinking3:10 pm 29 Nov 07

Urk. Good luck liberals…….not….

I propose we -don’t- put Departmental gossip on a site that regularly draws hits from Google. :\

Sooooo, which Departmental Secretaries will go? Let’s hear the scuttlebutt! Our dep’t is busying itself to find the required savings and staff cuts. No rumours yet of where they’ll happen or how.

Gungahlin Al2:49 pm 28 Nov 07

Whole department just got a “thanks and see ya later and I’m still convinced we were right” email from one outgoing minister. Nice sentiment, but it didn’t extend to actually taking a walk around here while in office – or is that too naive of me to expect that sort of behaviour?

And GnT: Costello didn’t want leadership of the Liberals, he wanted leadership of the country – and served up on a platter at that. There’s a big difference…

At least we’ll never now have to face the prospect of an “Abbott and Costello” show – that would have been more international cringe than even I could bear…

Costello doesn’t want to be leader of the opposition because he wants more time with his family. How much time did he think he was going to get with them as PM? Seems like he didn’t get the part he wanted so he’s taking his bat and ball and going home.

I hope Turnbull gets it over Abbott – at least he’s a republican, so we might finally let go of a sexist, elitist un-Australian system.

“Its a ‘dwarf planet’.”

Now you’re just getting picky! 🙂

Isn’t the term “dwarf” discriminatory: shouldn’t it be “vertically challenged” instead? 🙂

Pluto is not a planet, nor a moon, or an imperial space station.

Its a ‘dwarf planet’.

“@Mr Evil: Pluto is not a planet.”

Yeah, I know – some nerds have ruined it for us all – but to me Pluto will always be a planet, not a moon. 🙂

@Mr Evil: Pluto is not a planet.

Joe Canberran9:53 am 28 Nov 07

An interesting take on Turnbull over on Cricky here

“Turnbull has an ego the size of a planet….”

Yeah, but which planet: Pluto or Jupiter – there’s a big difference!

The Republican Movement will be excited if he is selected as Liberal leader.

i am revelling in the post-election liberal party bitter bickering and implosion!

and ant, agree with your earlier comment – i loved keating too and also don’t understand the general hatred of costello. i like turnbull’s style too. to be honest, i think the smarminess in them all appeals to the smarminess in me 🙂

If a week is a long time in politics, then 8 years is a lifetime.

Gungahlin Al2:47 pm 27 Nov 07

AJ: acting opportunities aside, my crystal ball-gazing still says Maxine will be the one.

I’m picturing Rudd winning the next 2 elections and having the staying power for 8 years all up. I’d agreed Maxine will likely get a P/Sec job this time around to cut her teeth. Next term ministry.

The Greens will do OK with the balance of power, and their vote will grow next election as people realise they haven’t all got 2 heads, etc.

Meanwhile, Julia *may* prove a little bit too polarising for the top job. And I don’t know that too many Deputy PMs have actually become PMs in their own right…

Rudd does an orderly handover to Maxine around 2015 ready for the next election. Labor goes onto term 4 as a result of a lesson well learnt in 2007 about one individual not overstaying their welcome…

Anyway, that’s how I could see it panning out. Although the internet’s growing impact on shortening news cycles could tighten up the timeframe a bit.

It’s consigned to cyberspace now, to be dredged up then by the world’s first virtual nation-state Google in 2015 to prove my powers as an oracle.

Or not…

actually, maxine is in no danger of becoming australia’s first female Pm – comrade rudd is off to bali for the COP in a week or so and comrade gillard will assume the mantle of PM – albeit acting – whilst he is away (and will subsequently do so on many occasions to come)

i’d rekkun maxine might get a parl sec gig, not a whole portfolio. rekkun julie bishop has a better chance at the title of first female PM in her own right before maxine… you heard it here first (or second… couldn’t be bothered to read all that guff above!) 😉

and i agree with mr kirk – srwtp gets my vote (why weren’t they running?? bastards!)

James-T-Kirk11:39 am 27 Nov 07

“surely the reasoned approach would be to view what’s on offer by all then vote accordingly”

Hmmm – That would only work if you could be assured that they would do what they said. – There is *NO* integrity in politics any more. We live in a world of core/non-core promises. Even parties won’t take their members to task for misleading the house any more.

Vote (1) – Sun Ripened Warm Tomato Party.

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On a less cynical note – Go Labor!!

Snahons_scv6_berlina11:04 am 27 Nov 07

Rudd Rudd he’s our man,
lets not hope he Elmer Fudds
us to the can.

Because they’re still bitter that Keating got the arse before he could screw the country up any worse than he already had back in ’96?

I still think Rudd will make a good PM, but only as long as he keeps the Union Boofheads and the Looney far-Left on a short, tight leash.

Snahons_scv6_berlina9:55 am 27 Nov 07

Why are people so passionate about a particular party and will aboslutely detest the other side ? After all, come election time, surely the reasoned approach would be to view what’s on offer by all then vote accordingly ?

a great result, the deserved humiliation of the evil little rodent was the pinnacle. And now watch the whole lot of them collapse into a screaming gibbering heap! I loved Abbott today, he has “reasonable people skills”. Oh bloody hell!

“Nat 08”

She gets my vote if she shows more cleavage

Will the Liberal party actually survive now their little rodent friend has died an appropriately horrible death?

Only the 2nd PM in Aussie history to lose his own seat – ha ha ha, couldn’t happen to a nicer guy, losers.

Re the Indigenous intervention I agree with Mr Evil that it depends who you were listening to and probably what you wanted to believe in the first place! Look up info on Noel Pearson’s support for the intervention, and you can add to that aboriginal activist, Warren Mundine? A lot of aboriginal leaders and a lot of older aboriginal women in the territory in particular seem to support the move. Noel Pearson is very impressive and proactive – would be good to see more of him in the political realm – maybe he could be our first aboriginal PM.

Mal Brough is a huge loss – he handles himself really well and would have been an interesting challenger for the Liberal leadership.

As for Maxine McKew being our first female PM – god help us! What did she say on Sat night as results came in – something along the lines of “Over 30 years in journalism I’ve interviewed a lot of important Australians, but I’ve found some of the most interesting Australians are right here in Bennelong and you only get to know them by knocking on their door or meeting them in shopping centres”. Felt like chucking with that little speech. She’s not even from the area, had to move there to take on the seat. It’s easy to dazzle people with your celebrity and skill as a public speaker through background in (public) tv and journalism. Let’s wait and see if she has any substance and if she lasts in the labor ranks. Then again, they’ve seen celebrity works for them – I think Mr Rudd can give at least some credit to being part of the “Sunrise family” for getting the gig over the weekend. To be honest, I think there was just a mood for change and fears about work choices and climate change built on that existing feeling, so I reckon Labor would have won with anyone at this point (well, maybe not Latham). Just a shame it wasn’t Kim Beazley – at least he appeared genuine and a nice guy, just didn’t come across as strong enough when Howard was at his peak.

Watch out BT; that comment could have you up for defamation! 🙂

barking toad1:56 pm 26 Nov 07

The oft offended margo didn’t help Ms Tucker’s cause.

I like Costello but he never had the balls to fight for the leadership. He just wanted it given to him. Even now he isn’t prepared to fight. Easier for him to walk away and make millions in private enterprise. Good luck to him.

I notice that Gary Humphries was the only politician, of either side of politics, to put the boot into Howard (when he was down) on election night.

It says more about Humphries than it does about Howard.

The CT is just posting what is already available on the Virtual Tally Room…
The site iss updated live on the night, and the live media coverage use it as their reference.

Link

Gungahlin Al1:23 pm 26 Nov 07

CT has the booth by booth numbers for the local seats today, with some interesting reading in there…

For instance, I can’t believe that the absolutely invisible candidate Kerri Taranto received 881 votes. And not just like people who know her around wherever it is she lives or whatever – but a smattering of votes in every booth. And double what for instance Farida Iqbal received – who at least made the effort to show up at places (and make some pretty astute observations too).

But the invisible woman’s vote was outstripped in every booth by the donkey vote – sorry – informal vote. So who cast the most informals in Fraser? Without doing complete calculations, it looked like Charnwood, Evatt and Gungahlin booths. But in both Fraser and Canberra, the informal vote was down about one third. In fact, I see only 4 electorates in the whole country where the informal vote didn’t decrease.

Interesting…

Absent Diane12:21 pm 26 Nov 07

Compared to howard I reckon costello isn’t all that bad. Feel a little bad for him. Well not really (as bad as I could feel for a liberal polly)..

Colloquial or literal “see the back of”?

Gungahlin Al11:20 am 26 Nov 07

Curious booth results Troy. Your “I’m from Gungahlin” tactic clearly worked in Amaroo, Gungahlin, Hall and Nicholls, but not in Palmerston or Ngunnawal…

Anyway, you had a serious go at it, and that’s a good thing for any democracy, no matter one’s personal politics.
No doubt a large part of your role was to harvest senate votes for Gary Humprhires, and that was clearly successful.

We look forward to shortly being able to see the backs of street signs *without* your stickers on them! 🙂

See you at a meeting some time.

I am in no position to offer actual\detailed stats or propose changes to FaCSIA policy, but based on the above I submit that sepi is filled with a nutrient-rich, nougat-like substance called crap.

Discuss.
For bonus points, leave your answer in terms of pi, or express it through interpretive dance.

“I haven’t heard a good word said about the Indigenous intervention. I hope Kevin Rudd finds a way to wind it back and do something useful.”

Yeah, well I guess it depends which ass you’re listening to, doesn’t it.

I agree with Thumper about Mal Brough’s loss being very sad.

Maxine McKew is all talk – let’s see how she handles herself over the next year or so: another flash-in-the-pan Peter Garrett?

I haven’t heard a good word said about the Indigenous intervention. I hope Kevin Rudd finds a way to wind it back and do something useful.

One thing they have done is spend 88 million on garnisheeing half the dole payments of 18 thousand people in a community (to buy groceries). For that money they could have fed them all on smoked salmon and let them keep their payments.

TroyWilliams9:27 am 26 Nov 07

G’day all

Just a short note to say thanks for all of your support, comments and thoughts over the past year or so – yep, even to the guys that incorrectly thought I was some sort of right wing party hack.

It was fun – hopefully we made a difference.

Best regards

Troy Williams
Liberal Candidate for Fraser (Ret.)

Gungahlin Al6:25 am 26 Nov 07

My prediction is that Maxine McKew will be this country’s first female PM.

Oh – and don’t forget we’re still in caretaker (PS behaviour-wise) until the new ministry is sworn in.

barney..I accept people saying they hadn’t done enough, but nothing? cmon. And at least they paid off 96bn debt, so financially we’re able to do anything at all..

I don’t know why people are so kind to the Liberal Party. They are dodgey as phuck, they couldn’t give a shit about workers rights and they have done nothing about the environment for 11 years…..

Remember Costello has a brother who is morality and substance. I think Peter Costello is a decent bloke who just went the wrong way personality-wise, but at base he’s a decent bloke. Quite sure of it.

“Poor old Costello, he has copped some really bad press over the years. I’m not quite sure why they all hate him so much. Then again, I still think Keating was great, too.

Reckon Turnbull, unless they stick someone else up to cop the rotten eggs and then put Turnbull up at election time.”

I think he struggles with his public persona except when really challenged. Like when he’s resigning. :-/ Suddenly the guy with the smarmy smile who makes you want to back out of the room disappears, and a person who seems to have considerably more depth to them peeks through.

Turnbull’s private school priggishness (sp? again) already annoys the hell out of me. Still I guess he’ll serve to make Saint Kev, Patron Saint of National Togetherness, more tolerable.

Sounds like a repeat of John Hewson.

Poor old Costello, he has copped some really bad press over the years. I’m not quite sure why they all hate him so much. Then again, I still think Keating was great, too.

Reckon Turnbull, unless they stick someone else up to cop the rotten eggs and then put Turnbull up at election time.

Agreed – its a very sad end to the election weekend.

Tributes to Matt can be posted here
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22818522-2702,00.html

It was very sad to see Matt Price died this weekend.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22818841-2,00.html

I’d expect Maxine to know how to look good on camera, the crowd was working itself.

She’s certainly one to watch but she might find the day in day out grind of parliament to be a lot less fun than campaigning against the PM.

Oh, and correction.

Malcolm Turnbull? You heard it here second.

“Oh c’mon Chester,

I called that one last night.”

Ah well, props to you for saying it before his announcement today.

But do you think he’s really to blame? And waddabout the Maxine prediction? As long as she doesn’t let it go to her head, that woman shows potential to really work a crowd.

And that’s what counts, right? 😉

Joe Canberran3:44 pm 25 Nov 07

Well the official announcement is here from the ABC

Oh c’mon Chester,

I called that one last night.

And Malcolm Turnbull will be the new opposition leader.

Remember folks, you heard it here first.

If I was really game, I’d add that Maxine McKew (sp?) will be Oz’s first female PM (or opposition leader at least). Whatever she was on last night, I want some! 😀

Let the debate begin!

PS I kinda feel a bit sorry for Costello. I think he’s better than he projects. After all, he’s big enough to see the writing on the wall and walk away. Under these circumstances, that’s pretty damn big.

PPS I’m opposed to compulsory voting so you can draw your own conclusions about my participation in the democratic process. LOL

Bob McMullan was on Channel 10’s coverage. Not sure if they were at the tally room, or in Sydney.

Where were the parties in Canberra last night? I imagine labor and liberal had them. Workies in Belconnen or Dickson for the Laborites?

That’s right, it’s over… let’s get on with it!! lol

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