14 October 2008

Election wrap - 14 October

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Morgo lands a hit!

Labor ran the following ad last night:

Interestingly Katy runs a part of the opposition attack on her leader (from the youthful Brindabella Liberal David Morgan) and then comes to the defence of the old curmudgeon. I can’t help thinking Mr Stanhope would have preferred not to get this sort of “help” from his deputy.

Health:

The Canberra Times has had an expert run an eye over the health policies of the major parties and found both wanting.

Greens should take themselves more seriously:

The ABC brings word from Malcolm Mackerras that the Greens should have run a full slate of candidates to take advantage of their surging popularity.

Campaign launches:

Yesterday’s laughable campaign “launches” by Labor and Liberal have been looked over by the Canberra Times.

The Australian:

Jon Stanhope has told the Australian he’s not arrogant. Also he’s expecting to lead a minority Government after Saturday.

Zed cops the Angry Voice:

The ABC reports a really good old school Stanhope tantrum at the leaders’ debate with Zed copping a gobful:

    “Imagine the implications for this city if the Liberal Party forms government after this weekend, a party that has been tuned out completely for the last four years,” he said.

    “Zed in bed – how fitting that the international sign for being asleep is the letter zed.

    “Zed at the head of a party that simply fails to see the tsunami of demand that heads in the direction of our health system.”

    Mr Seselja declined to directly respond to the Labor leader’s accusations, instead using the debate to focus on his party’s key platforms of housing affordability and education.

    “I think I’ll respond to the work of fiction when we’re doing question and answer,” he said.

Greens:

The ABC reports on Green sorrow that they’ve been left out of today’s Leader’s debate organised by the ANU and the Canberra Times.

Shane Rattenbury is pointing out that in recent Senate debate on Canberra airport Labor and Liberal voted against a curfew on the airport’s operations.

CAP:

In response to yesterday’s curiousity about his signage Norvan Vogt has sent in a whole slideshow documenting his processes. Thank You Norvan.

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I’m not sure how to answer that question Jimbo. I like Tuckey and think Katter is a schmuck.

Gungahlin Al6:17 pm 14 Oct 08

Who Jazz? Not on your events list.

Skidbladnir said :

Are there any more Sim Challenges, or have they finished for the season?

One to go this thursday. I did have two others scheduled however both candidates pulled out.

Katy is emo

Nice work on the signs Norv and good luck for Saturday

Harvy that all may or may not be true, but the planes are really loud and annoying over my place right now. They wake the toddler at 6.30, and I don’t want them at 2AM.

Small planes and helicopters go overhead at very low altitudes, so I’m not convinced about the 5000ft thing. And huge planes go very low when it is cloudy overhead.

Normally I support Green’s policies, but the Canberra airport curfew is a bad idea. Sydney airport is one of the only airports in Australia with a curfew (and the only one a google search will show), and it has massive problems thanks to it (Sitting around at an airport overnight is not fun). Flight paths in and out of Canberra airport ensure that planes avoid residential area at altitudes below 5000ft.

I personally believe the bulk of this push is to try to get a residential development built at Tralee, so chances are the Greens are unwitting allies to the developers.

Canberra does not have the air traffic to even think about a curfew been warranted. Also unless you purchased your house prior to 1939 you don’t really have a leg to stand on, because to put it bluntly, the airport was there first.

The other factor is that Melbourne airport operates 24 hours (I know this for a fact, I’ve arrived on a flight to Melbourne airport at 3am, not the most happening time to arrive), and yet there is no talk of curfews there, and planes absolutely fly over houses at altitudes below 2000ft (the rough Melbourne equivalent of Canberra’s 5000ft, and I know this thanks to certain airlines having real time position and altitude screens)

Legitimate mavericks, eh? So more to the Bob Katter end of the maverick scale than the Wilson Tuckey/Bill Heffernan end then?

jimbocool said :

Al, the JonKat tactic must be driven by Labor’s internal polling and focus groups which has presumably told them that Stanhope is a liability/unpopular and that he voters much prefer Katy. No doubt the Libs research tells them the same thing which is why the attack ads focus on Stanhope. Katy will be first ALP across the line in Molonglo and Stanhope will get about 1.5 quotas in Ginninderra (a drop of 0.7q which is a hefty hit).

I’ve already staked my hat on the Greens not getting a second up in Molonglo, so I’m happy to wager my lucky underpants that the Greens will not form government with the Libs, or support a Liberal Chief Minister. Just like the Nats in WA the talk of working with everybody is just for show.

Actually the Nats in WA are legitimate mavericks. They have backed the ALP in the past and a fair bit of leaning was done by prominent federal Nats to get them to partner with the Libs.

Gungahlin Al said :

Got my first phone call from someone after the Deputy Mayor position at 6.30am the Sunday after my election (after a 2am night) – way to cross yourself off the list…

*guffaw*

How did they even get elected in the first place?

Gungahlin Al3:38 pm 14 Oct 08

“Will the intriguingness never end?”

Some time Monday or Tuesday I’d guess, if preference counts are complex.

But the real intriguingness will start Sunday morning as the majors’ position jockeying starts. Got my first phone call from someone after the Deputy Mayor position at 6.30am the Sunday after my election (after a 2am night) – way to cross yourself off the list…

Al, the JonKat tactic must be driven by Labor’s internal polling and focus groups which has presumably told them that Stanhope is a liability/unpopular and that he voters much prefer Katy. No doubt the Libs research tells them the same thing which is why the attack ads focus on Stanhope. Katy will be first ALP across the line in Molonglo and Stanhope will get about 1.5 quotas in Ginninderra (a drop of 0.7q which is a hefty hit).

I’ve already staked my hat on the Greens not getting a second up in Molonglo, so I’m happy to wager my lucky underpants that the Greens will not form government with the Libs, or support a Liberal Chief Minister. Just like the Nats in WA the talk of working with everybody is just for show.

Will the intriguingness never end?

*chuckle*

Gungahlin Al2:56 pm 14 Oct 08

Taking the Malcom Mackerras “what if” approach, is there a chance that the ALP’s JonKat approach to their two-headed campaigning, clearly to set Katy up as Jon Stanhope’s successor, could backfire?

If Saturday sees a big backlash against Stanhope, will the search for a scapegoat see Katy so tightly wedded to Stanhope that she will also be “on the nose” as the logical party leadership replacement?

If so, that would leave (assuming the incumbents get re-elected on name recognition) Mick Gentleman, Simon Corbell, Mary Porter, John Hargreaves, and Andrew Barr for the ALP to choose from. I think Andrew is the stand-out from them, based on experience of his willingness to listen, and to then act on what he hears.

Interestingly, the Greens have indicated a willingness to consider all options when it comes to the Chief Minister vote, rather than necessarily accepting the party’s nomination (whomsoever may be the – hopefully – minority party they go with, and assuming they do hold the cross-benches).

Although it’s tempting to start feeling a bit *over* this election campaign, a truly intriguing week is ahead of us, of that there can be no doubt…

Gungahlin Al said :

See her eyes so blatantly tracking the auotcue? That really destroys the semblence of sincerity.

Indeed. She spoke for all of 25 seconds – surely one can read a script of that size from memory – sincerely or not.

Gungahlin Al2:40 pm 14 Oct 08

See her eyes so blatantly tracking the auotcue? That really destroys the semblence of sincerity.

Aside from the fact that the ad was ridiculous, Katy really did come off like a plastic creation reading a script. A rung or two above Rocky when he had brain damage trying to be that caveman.

Just who is the Greens leader anyway? This Rattenbury chap?

Jesus Katy sounds thick.

Imagine her as Chief Minister!!!!!!

Either the CAP have very dramatic methods of group consultation on signage, or there’s a photo in there that shouldn’t be.

It starts out with Norvan designing some signs, some of his signs get shown off next to a road…
Then in one of them, Norvan is wearing a suit, giving a speech to an audience also dressed in suits.
And then he goes back to creating signs.

Are there any more Sim Challenges, or have they finished for the season?

OK, so Stanhope’s a bit on the nose with the electorate… this ad improve things how? At least show us a bloke with the nuts to stand up for himself!

Seriously, though, this was a [REDACTED] campaign ad. In the first place, it made me want to see MORE of the BLAH BLAH Stanhope head, to laugh at him. Secondly, the whole thing reeks of a backhanded compliment:

“I’m not saying Stanhope’s a good person, but at least he keeps being elected, and some people even work for him!”

I particularly like that Katy never mentions whether she supports Jonny Boy (apologies to johnboy). ‘Cos, you know, you ought to. But Katy’s going to be writing “1” for the Greens, methinks.

How embarrasment. Having to get your Mum to ask your little playmates to stop being so nasty to you.

Can anyone turn the RAH-RAH-RAHRAH-RAHRAHRAHRAH Stanhope head into an iTunes vis thing so he can sing along to music?

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