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Electric cars can charge up at Belconnen markets

By johnboy - 14 June 2011 29

EV Charge spot

Owen has sent in this pic with the following note:

Found this at the Belconnen Markets of all places. The inset shows the plug needed for connection.

With two car spaces available, I am not sure how it is going to work. Maybe they will put signs up, “Electric Cars Only”

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Electric cars can charge up at Belconnen markets
luther_bendross 6:39 pm 14 Jun 11

Out of interest, anyone know how long it takes to charge a car?

breda 5:57 pm 14 Jun 11

Meant to add into my PP this link:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/health-science/electric-cars-may-not-be-so-green-after-all-says-british-study/story-e6frg8y6-1226073103576

“An electric car owner would have to drive at least 129,000km before producing a net saving in CO2. Many electric cars will not travel that far in their lifetime because they typically have a range of less than 145km on a single charge and are unsuitable for long trips. Even those driven 160,000km would save only about a tonne of CO2 over their lifetimes.

The British study, which is the first analysis of the full lifetime emissions of electric cars covering manufacturing, driving and disposal, undermines the case for tackling climate change by the rapid introduction of electric cars.”

It’s the batteries that have always been the problem, and it is a long way from being solved.

When oh when, will reality intrude on the fantasies of our green (synonyms – immature, unripe, inexperienced) do-gooders? I assume also that they will include the skyrocketing cost of electricity in their cost estimates, as well as the need for most people to own a conventional car for trips beyond the metropolitan area. I won’t even start on the effect on the power grid of large numbers of cars charging up, if their dream ever becomes reality.

A small diesel car is at least as efficient and much more practical, for those who don’t care about being seen to be ‘caring about the planet’ more than the hoi polloi.

breda 5:08 pm 14 Jun 11

Who pays for the power?

triffid 3:40 pm 14 Jun 11

Thanks, pajs . . . I know, I know; I was just being ‘sarcarstic’. Without wishing give too much away, I have some familiarity with a couple of ‘forums’ (and I don’t mean as in ‘on the poota’) dedicated to lectrik car issues. There’s some veerrry interesting exchanges and insights to be had there, I assure you. Let’s just say that there’s the wish and hope and then there’s the reality. ‘Sophistry’ is also pretty big sometimes.

p1 2:30 pm 14 Jun 11

triffid said :

Sooo, these charge points are directly connected by their own special cable to, say, Blowering Power Station, or Tumut 2, or a turbine at the wind farm near Lake George?

I think that the old “but it all comes out the same power point…” argument has been made before.

Besides, I’m not sure that “old hydro” like Blowering and Tumut count as truly green.

pajs 2:15 pm 14 Jun 11

Triffid, you don’t need a separate cable for green power. If you’d like to learn more about how green power accreditation and generation works in Australia, you can have a look at http://greenpower.gov.au/home.aspx

You will also find there the latest independent audit of Green Power, in case you are concerned that the green power you purchase for your home might not actually have been produced and added to the grid.

I can direct you to further resources that explain how the grid and Australia’s electricity markets work, if things are still unclear.

triffid 2:05 pm 14 Jun 11

pajs said :

Keijidosha, Better Place run these charge points. They have an energy supply contract with ACTEW AGL for 100% accredited green power. Any charging done via any of these points is Green Power, whatever time of the day you charge.

Sooo, these charge points are directly connected by their own special cable to, say, Blowering Power Station, or Tumut 2, or a turbine at the wind farm near Lake George?

Mysteryman 2:05 pm 14 Jun 11

I like the looks of this. Let’s see more of it!

p1 12:48 pm 14 Jun 11

Keijidosha said :

The outlet pictured is only suitable for EV’s with intelligent charging systems. So if you drive a converted EV it would seem that you’re out of luck!

Surely the details on the way these work must be available (not particularly “standard” if they are not), so it should be pretty easy to make some sort of controller to send the appropriate signals to the plug. Whether that is worth the effort would depend on how much “free power” you are using.

Keijidosha said :

I’m curious about where the energy for this station is sourced from – considering that charging during business hours would be using peak power.

I assume green power of some sort, otherwise your are driving a mostly coal fired car…

pajs 12:43 pm 14 Jun 11

Keijidosha, Better Place run these charge points. They have an energy supply contract with ACTEW AGL for 100% accredited green power. Any charging done via any of these points is Green Power, whatever time of the day you charge.

Keijidosha 12:20 pm 14 Jun 11

The outlet pictured is only suitable for EV’s with intelligent charging systems. So if you drive a converted EV it would seem that you’re out of luck!

I’m curious about where the energy for this station is sourced from – considering that charging during business hours would be using peak power.

p1 12:02 pm 14 Jun 11

All I need in one of those plugs and it’ll be a great place to park my motorhome each night…

ClackstonBiaar 11:18 am 14 Jun 11

Classified said :

I wonder how long before we see teens bending coathangers so they can jam each end into a different part of the socket.

Unfortunately they won’t be electrocuted, because those outlets only send voltage when signalled by the vehicle.

Classified 11:04 am 14 Jun 11

I wonder how long before we see teens bending coathangers so they can jam each end into a different part of the socket.

Scratch2k 10:51 am 14 Jun 11

Eagerly awaiting follow up pictures of Humvee parked in these parking spots.

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