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Everything you need to know about the royal visit.

By johnboy - 17 October 2011 55

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The Queen’s website has a program of her visit to Canberra.

Fleshing that out though we have a plethora of pages from Territory And Municipal Services.

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Everything you need to know about the royal visit.
schmeah 10:23 pm 17 Oct 11

1. I get really tired of hearing people go “how much will this cost?” At the end of the day, we could have a President, like Eddie Maguire, or Steve Vizard, or some other complete lowlife, and we could pay the millions and millions of dollars that it would cost to support them in their role. On the whole, the Queen is a eminent figure who had served this country (and 16 others well). I don’t care how much it costs. A lot of people will turn up to see her in Australia, and it will make a lot of people happy to see her. Stop being a killjoy.

2. Republicanism is getting more amusing by the day. Had a good look at the republican movement in Australia at uni – stats speak for themselves – the most ardent republicans are over 40 years of age, with the level of republicanism going up as the age goes up to about 65, then it drops off again. There are quite a few young republicans, but the most ardent monarchists are people aged between 18 and 30, and with every year more and more come on line. I think that says for now, the monarchy is here to say.

Ok firstly, as much as I can’t stand him, I would rather have Eddie Maguire be President in the place of someone who came into their position through no other means, other than their birth. It’s modern day, sanctioned elitism that privileges a birth right that no one else can ever challenge. Wrong.

Secondly, have you actually ever been to a meeting of the ARM? The average age of the ARM member is 40-65 and older, seriously? Not true. I’m 28, a card-carrying ARM member and have actually been to meetings and can guarantee the average age of people in the room was probably closer to 35. Sure, there were some boomers thrown in the mix, but most attendees were rank and file generation Xers and Ys.

And lastly, any system that 1) bestows entitlement on no other grounds than birth 2) functionally discriminates against women and catholics (and other religions) and 3) lumps the British taxpayer to with an exorbitant wedding while around 1/3rd of their public workforce is being laid off is absolutely an embarrassment. The only people who think it isn’t are aged over 80 and still cling to their long-gone British passports and probably engage in a bit of nepotism themselves.

LSWCHP 10:14 pm 17 Oct 11

Thumper said :

I’m sure HM the Q is a nice lady, but overall, I’d prefer she stayed away from us. The sooner we become a republic the better. This is starting to look ridiculous

We paid a s***load for a bunch of Chinese goons to run roughshod over the city, why not for the Queen of Australia?

Republic sentiments or not, we are still part of the Commonwealth, and even if we weren’t then we’d still be paying for the security if they visited. No different from Obama, Bush, or any important figure.

I don’t think we should’ve paid a penny for goons of any variety to come here. And I’m quite happy for her to be the Queen of England, and anywhere else that wants her to be their Queen. I would just prefer that she not be the Queen of Australia, and that she stays where she is and not come here.

LSWCHP 10:07 pm 17 Oct 11

Bobert said :

Two points:

1. I get really tired of hearing people go “how much will this cost?” At the end of the day, we could have a President, like Eddie Maguire, or Steve Vizard, or some other complete lowlife, and we could pay the millions and millions of dollars that it would cost to support them in their role. On the whole, the Queen is a eminent figure who had served this country (and 16 others well). I don’t care how much it costs. A lot of people will turn up to see her in Australia, and it will make a lot of people happy to see her. Stop being a killjoy.

2. Republicanism is getting more amusing by the day. Had a good look at the republican movement in Australia at uni – stats speak for themselves – the most ardent republicans are over 40 years of age, with the level of republicanism going up as the age goes up to about 65, then it drops off again. There are quite a few young republicans, but the most ardent monarchists are people aged between 18 and 30, and with every year more and more come on line. I think that says for now, the monarchy is here to say.

A final point (I know, I said 2, sorry). I don’t understand this argument that we are an embarrassment. I have traveled all over the world and I have seen nothing but respect for Australia. And I think the only people that really think about QE2 as being Queen are the republicans in Australia. I was quite interested in the republican debate when I was younger, and I was particularly interested in what the rest of the world thought of us – nobody I ever met thought of us as being subservient to Britain except Australian republicans.

At the end of the day, the Queen is a citizen of a foreign country that is on the other side of the planet, and who doesn’t give a rats arse about the people of Australia, beyond the fact that they fund very occasional jollies over here for her, her hubby and her retinue. The Queen represents England first, and Australia last and that’s the truth of it. And if you were to study the deployment of Australian troops during WW2 when we were being threatened by the Japanese, you’d quickly come to realise what that means in reality. We owe the poms nothing, and the sooner we sever this loony relationship with them, the better off we’ll be.

If we’re gonna pay millions for a complete waste of space, I’d rather the money was devoted to an Australian waste of space.

This may be stating the obvious, but describing the views of those you disagree with as “amusing” isn’t an argument, and doesn’t add anything to the discussion. It does make you look like a pompous prat, though.

If her visit to Australia makes a lot of people happy, well, good on ’em. Bread and circuses for the dimwitted, etc.

And finally, I don’t think that we as a country, a nation or a people are embarrassing to anybody. What I meant was that having this nice old foreigner as our head of state is embarrassing. At least to me.

Cheap 9:45 pm 17 Oct 11

Chip said :

A cheap quip indeed – and cringe worthy. In other circumstances it may be funny perhaps but I reckon QE2 has been great. She is not responsible for the history of our country, nor for the history of her own country that thrust her into the job. She has been friendly, fair, intelligent and hardworking. It would be no surprise if her approval rating amongst Australians was higher than that of any of our pollies or any candidates for president. Like a lot of republicans, I think that trying to speed the inevitable move to a republic would be unnecessary and unseemly while she remains on the throne. I hope her trip goes well.

Not sure if you’re responding to me, but you may have missed my point a little bit…

Thumper 9:25 pm 17 Oct 11

I’m sure HM the Q is a nice lady, but overall, I’d prefer she stayed away from us. The sooner we become a republic the better. This is starting to look ridiculous

We paid a s***load for a bunch of Chinese goons to run roughshod over the city, why not for the Queen of Australia?

Republic sentiments or not, we are still part of the Commonwealth, and even if we weren’t then we’d still be paying for the security if they visited. No different from Obama, Bush, or any important figure.

Thumper 9:22 pm 17 Oct 11

Just doing the math, Queenie is 85 and the Dukester is 90! No rest days on the itinerary…. assuming a bit of jet lag, and their age, totally amazing!

Got to admit, love them or hate them, they certainly don’t shirk work.

Phil the Greek is 90!

I-filed 7:37 pm 17 Oct 11

LSWCHP said :

I’d really like to know how much, if anything, this is this going to cost the people of the ACT. I can’t imagine the security and all the other logistical infrastructure will be funded by HM, so where is the coin coming from?

I’m sure HM the Q is a nice lady, but overall, I’d prefer she stayed away from us. The sooner we become a republic the better. This is starting to look ridiculous.

I’d be more concerned about how much they are spending on the visit of Mary Donaldson from Tasmania – now Danish Princess Mary. She will be in Canberra on a “trade visit” … like, Danish trade … and we’re picking up the tab!

bigfeet 7:28 pm 17 Oct 11

LSWCHP said :

I’d really like to know how much, if anything, this is this going to cost the people of the ACT. I can’t imagine the security and all the other logistical infrastructure will be funded by HM, so where is the coin coming from?

I’m sure HM the Q is a nice lady, but overall, I’d prefer she stayed away from us. The sooner we become a republic the better. This is starting to look ridiculous.

How would it be any different if we were a republic? The infrastructure for a Formal Head of State visits are largely funded by the host country, no matter where the Head of State comes from.

So we pay for the visit whether it is the Sultan of Brunei, the Queen of Australia or the President of Uzbekistan who is visiting.

And even if we became a republic I doubt that we would leave the Commonwealth. As the head of the Commonwealth the reigning monarch, be it Queen Liz, King Charles or King William will still visit.

ImagineThat 7:16 pm 17 Oct 11

Just doing the math, Queenie is 85 and the Dukester is 90! No rest days on the itinerary…. assuming a bit of jet lag, and their age, totally amazing!

She was home the day I visited her house in London because the flag was up at Buckingham Palace, but she didn’t invite me in for a cuppa. I shan’t hold that against her and am happy to lay out a spread (tea bags and scotch finger biscuits) if she wants to check out the burbs of Canberra. Perhaps she can lay that old chestnut to rest about whether the north side of the south side is the place to be…..

P.S. I don’t have a flag I can put up to indicate I’m home, but I can leave a light on.

Bobert 7:14 pm 17 Oct 11

Two points:

1. I get really tired of hearing people go “how much will this cost?” At the end of the day, we could have a President, like Eddie Maguire, or Steve Vizard, or some other complete lowlife, and we could pay the millions and millions of dollars that it would cost to support them in their role. On the whole, the Queen is a eminent figure who had served this country (and 16 others well). I don’t care how much it costs. A lot of people will turn up to see her in Australia, and it will make a lot of people happy to see her. Stop being a killjoy.

2. Republicanism is getting more amusing by the day. Had a good look at the republican movement in Australia at uni – stats speak for themselves – the most ardent republicans are over 40 years of age, with the level of republicanism going up as the age goes up to about 65, then it drops off again. There are quite a few young republicans, but the most ardent monarchists are people aged between 18 and 30, and with every year more and more come on line. I think that says for now, the monarchy is here to say.

A final point (I know, I said 2, sorry). I don’t understand this argument that we are an embarrassment. I have traveled all over the world and I have seen nothing but respect for Australia. And I think the only people that really think about QE2 as being Queen are the republicans in Australia. I was quite interested in the republican debate when I was younger, and I was particularly interested in what the rest of the world thought of us – nobody I ever met thought of us as being subservient to Britain except Australian republicans.

LSWCHP 4:32 pm 17 Oct 11

I’d really like to know how much, if anything, this is this going to cost the people of the ACT. I can’t imagine the security and all the other logistical infrastructure will be funded by HM, so where is the coin coming from?

I’m sure HM the Q is a nice lady, but overall, I’d prefer she stayed away from us. The sooner we become a republic the better. This is starting to look ridiculous.

Waiting For Godot 2:47 pm 17 Oct 11

Damn Queen and Obama. Because of them Gillard’s execution has had to be postponed. But like Howard during APEC the numbers will be tallied up. I don’t think a phone call from Timmy will be enough to stop the inevitable this time around.

Chip 2:20 pm 17 Oct 11

A cheap quip indeed – and cringe worthy. In other circumstances it may be funny perhaps but I reckon QE2 has been great. She is not responsible for the history of our country, nor for the history of her own country that thrust her into the job. She has been friendly, fair, intelligent and hardworking. It would be no surprise if her approval rating amongst Australians was higher than that of any of our pollies or any candidates for president. Like a lot of republicans, I think that trying to speed the inevitable move to a republic would be unnecessary and unseemly while she remains on the throne. I hope her trip goes well.

p1 2:08 pm 17 Oct 11

Nothing in there about other lake uses. I assume the rat patrol will have the flotilla out in support?

Cheap 1:22 pm 17 Oct 11

I wonder if the ACT School Book Depository has a good view of the lake…

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