Extreme cold kills our homeless – Let’s call it a win!

johnboy 9 July 2009 33

John Hargreaves is letting the world know that the ACT’s 2006 homelessness census is showing some good numbers for the ACT.

    The 2006 Census showed that the ACT has the equal lowest rate of homelessness in Australia at 42 per 10,000 people and a smaller proportion of homeless people sleeping rough (6% in the ACT compared to 16 %nationally).

Congratulations Canberra, our cold winters drive the homeless to parts warmer. Well done.


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farnarkler farnarkler 10:05 pm 13 Jul 09

Let the hungry eat the homeless.

gift gift 1:46 am 11 Jul 09

Make that another vacant flat, one above me, has been so I’m told for two weeks now.

bohemian bohemian 11:15 am 10 Jul 09

Fisho said :

A lot of homeless people have drug/alcohol/mental problems.

I’m sure giving such people a bagging does wonders for the ego.

People become homeless under many circumstances, as mentioned by Fisho and including abusive relationships. Some people go homeless simply because they don’t have a choice.

You only need to talk to the homeless councils to know how hard they’ve been working with (and sometimes against) the Govt. to house the homeless people. Few years ago, I spoke and listened to social workers who were upset by stupid bureacracy that left people stranded. It doesn’t matter if you have vacant and available houses for the homeless. In this day and age, paperworks are valued higher than the basic needs.

And, based on some comments above, I think I just lose a little bit of faith in humanity.

Pandy Pandy 12:04 am 10 Jul 09

Fisho,

They can move away for all I care to sunny Queensland and have their problems dealt by Centrelink North.

gift gift 10:51 pm 09 Jul 09

I’ve noticed a couple of housing flats vacant, one on Northbourne, and another in Forbes Street Turner, they have been sitting vacant for at least three weeks or more

I-filed I-filed 9:58 pm 09 Jul 09

Tent Embassy closes up too.

Fisho Fisho 8:52 pm 09 Jul 09

A lot of homeless people have drug/alcohol/mental problems.

I’m sure giving such people a bagging does wonders for the ego.

Ozi Ozi 5:27 pm 09 Jul 09

G-Fresh said :

More affordable housing.

Yeah, because the government housing is so well looked-after by the residents as it is…

G-Fresh G-Fresh 5:05 pm 09 Jul 09

NoAddedMSG said :

So you will also be taking up arms at comment #15 which seeks to paint all single mothers with the same brush?

Yeah for sure! Missed it.

As for homelessness, let’s eradicate it. Yeah!

More affordable housing.

johnboy johnboy 4:53 pm 09 Jul 09

Back on topic people. This isn’t about your perceived gender grievances.

monomania monomania 4:47 pm 09 Jul 09

Pandy said :

Gene pool!

Are there genes for homelessness?

Or delusions of grandeur?

Or common human decency?

NoAddedMSG NoAddedMSG 4:43 pm 09 Jul 09

So you will also be taking up arms at comment #15 which seeks to paint all single mothers with the same brush?

G-Fresh G-Fresh 3:44 pm 09 Jul 09

NoAddedMSG said :

G-Fresh, Sepi was quoting directly from the article in the SMH, which is based on a recent study done in Australia. Perhaps you should read the article before commencing fire…..

Read the article prior to making comment thanks MyNicknamesRefersToFlavourEnhancer621!

Using a quote from an article, let alone a survey to paint single fathers with the same brush is low rent.

Vonbare Vonbare 1:27 pm 09 Jul 09

I don’t think it is sub-zero in Canberra all of a sudden – pretty sure it’s been like this for years….why the sudden drop in homeless numbers then?

I don’t have to runaway and live in the street. I can runaway and I can go to the ocean, I can go to the country, I can go to the mountains. I could go to Israel, Africa, Afghanistan.

ant ant 12:48 pm 09 Jul 09

when I worked in a community sector, I recall that the various charity-run shelters had an influx when the really cold weather set in, they’d fill up, and then hand out blankets adn sleeping bags to those who either coudln’t be accommodated, or who didn’t want to be.

There was a chap who used to do the rounds of West Civic and also the Cooyong/Braddon area, picking up cigaratte butts. He had a very bright blanket he’d wear, but one day we saw him with a bright new sleeping bag which he variously wore as a cloak, or stuffed into its bag. It got pretty grubby over the months, but then one day it was all bright and clean again.

Skidbladnir Skidbladnir 11:20 am 09 Jul 09

@12 & 13, re: How the homeless tally on the Census:
Information is here (with mouseover)

peterh peterh 11:11 am 09 Jul 09

FC said :

I never thought of that mp2615.
I guess if you are sleeping on the streets, you haven’t got a fixed address, and would be filling out a census form!

this point needs to be expanded. how can the act govt claim that homelessness is down, if these people have no fixed address? do they glean this info from the charities who work tirelessly to house these people, provide them with shelter where they can or at least a hot meal?

Homeless people will sleep anywhere where it isn’t putting them at risk of freezing. a stairwell will provide some comfort from the cold, as will other “choice” sites. I have seen people climb into charity bins for the night. The census won’t pick up on these people. There will be a massive gap in the numbers, based on the inventiveness of the homeless to avoid detection – if you are caught sleeping in a dangerous spot, the police move you on. If the shelters are full, there is nowhere else to go…

Postalgeek Postalgeek 11:04 am 09 Jul 09

sepi said :

http://www.theage.com.au/national/divorced-men-cry-poor-but-better-off-than-women-20090707-dbuv.html

Divorced men cry poor, but better off than women.

Hmmm.

The same article also said “Yet many divorced women say they are no worse off than before the break-up, or are even a bit better off, possibly because they have more control over finances, the study shows”

The article almost casually noted “It found about 88 per cent of the mothers had children living with them for most of the time.”

I bet more than a few fathers would prefer to be with their children.

chewy14 chewy14 11:03 am 09 Jul 09

Nice Link Sepi,
shows that divorced women stay at home and leach off their former husbands doesn’t it?

What that has to do with homeless people i don’t know.

FC FC 11:03 am 09 Jul 09

I never thought of that mp2615.
I guess if you are sleeping on the streets, you haven’t got a fixed address, and would be filling out a census form!

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