1 June 2011

Fighting the tide

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More than 200 people were caught on their mobile phones while driving in May, despite police warnings.

The results illustrate an increase from May 2010 where 170 people were issued with a Traffic Infringement Notice (TIN) for using their mobile phone while driving compared to 217 in May this year.

Sergeant Jeff Knight, Officer-in-Charge of Traffic Operations, said that drivers more than double the risk of being involved in a road collision while using a mobile phone.

“There is a reason why it’s called driver distraction. Talking and texting while driving takes you away from what you are supposed to be doing — paying attention on the road and driving,’ he said.

“Accidents involving texting drivers are on the rise nationally, and it’s said that texting drivers can travel up to 80 metres in five seconds — this is of serious concern for the driver and other road users.”

ACT Policing members from all ranks, including Chief Police Officer Roman Quaedvlieg, are enforcing road rules, issuing drivers with TINs for any traffic offences.

[Courtesy ACT Policing]

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Three words: Integrated Hands Free.

Problem solved. Texts can wait.

My phones plugged into AUX so no way I’m going to stop a rockin good song to answer a call whoever it is can wait.

averagejoeaussie10:34 pm 01 Jun 11

Calamity said :

My partner, who spends a great deal of his work day in his car, got caught whilst stopped at a red light for switching his bluetooth on, whilst the phone was in it’s dock. It’s a quick swipe of a finger to ‘turn on’ the bluetooth system he paid about $500 for so that he wouldn’t ever have to talk/text and drive. He copped a really hefty fine for it, too. He tried to tell the cop what he was doing but cop wasn’t having any of it – just said you are not to touch your phone whilst in the car. If that’s the case – makes the bluetooth system a bit … illegal, really?

I’m all for catching people talking or texting while driving but frankly thought that was beyond ridiculous.

I agree – pressing a button for phone Bluetooth is the same as changing the radio channel, CD, A/C or vent. Ban phone useage in cars, not the Bluetooth/Parrot applications.

people wearing ipod headphones while driving seem to be fine .

Golden-Alpine said :

Does that mean you never adjust the radio, heating, airconditiong in your car when driving? This is no different to what they were suggesting in turning on the bluetooth. My phone is the same, it is a swipe to turn on bluetooth whilst in a craddle. Doing this is no different to changing radio station or track on a cd.

Out of interest, what sort of phone do you have that doesn’t require to navigate menu’s to turn BT on/off and is a single swipe without having to do anything else?

If that is 100% the case, then I would tend to agree with you, however the issue is if that was allowed everyone that was caught “manipulating” a phone could could simply claim “I was just turning the BT on/off” Sorta makes enforcement a little hard wouldn’t you agree? At the end of the day, using, touching, holding a mobile phone while driving is illegal, other car functions you have mentioned, are not.

I still stand by my comment that all your phones functions should already be handsfree by the time you start using the vehicle.

Golden-Alpine said :

Spideydog said :

Calamity said :

My partner, who spends a great deal of his work day in his car, got caught whilst stopped at a red light for switching his bluetooth on, whilst the phone was in it’s dock. It’s a quick swipe of a finger to ‘turn on’ the bluetooth system he paid about $500 for so that he wouldn’t ever have to talk/text and drive. He copped a really hefty fine for it, too. He tried to tell the cop what he was doing but cop wasn’t having any of it – just said you are not to touch your phone whilst in the car. If that’s the case – makes the bluetooth system a bit … illegal, really?

I’m all for catching people talking or texting while driving but frankly thought that was beyond ridiculous.

No, its called turn the bluetooth on BEFORE using or being in charge of a motor vehicle. I find it hard to believe that it was a “simple swipe of the finger” …… a single swipe of the finger to turn a function of the phone on …… so your partner/husband didn’t have to navigate menu’s to get to the bluetooth section ???? What is the difference between navigating menu’s on a phone and then activating a bluetooth function and texting? Absolutely nothing, your eyes are off the road and your total attention is on the phone.

Have your phone FULLY handsfree before using the vehicle, or accept the consequences when caught.

Does that mean you never adjust the radio, heating, airconditiong in your car when driving? This is no different to what they were suggesting in turning on the bluetooth. My phone is the same, it is a swipe to turn on bluetooth whilst in a craddle. Doing this is no different to changing radio station or track on a cd.

Problem is it’s illegal. The other stuff is ok…go figure…

averagejoeaussie8:09 pm 01 Jun 11

Absolute idiots. God help anyone who has an accident with me while they are using their phone.

Set up the stocks in Garema Place. Put mobile texters in them with their bare bottoms exposed. Invite the public to dispose of their old phones in whatever they consider most appropriate.

BimboGeek said :

Anyway 80 metres in 5 seconds is just under 60 km/h.

Well thats obviously the problem with the mobiles in cars. A lot of Canberra is 80km/h so if they are hitting the brakes to go under 60km/h while on the phone it’s bound to cause crashes. They’re probably in the right hand lane as well.

Golden-Alpine7:26 pm 01 Jun 11

Spideydog said :

Calamity said :

My partner, who spends a great deal of his work day in his car, got caught whilst stopped at a red light for switching his bluetooth on, whilst the phone was in it’s dock. It’s a quick swipe of a finger to ‘turn on’ the bluetooth system he paid about $500 for so that he wouldn’t ever have to talk/text and drive. He copped a really hefty fine for it, too. He tried to tell the cop what he was doing but cop wasn’t having any of it – just said you are not to touch your phone whilst in the car. If that’s the case – makes the bluetooth system a bit … illegal, really?

I’m all for catching people talking or texting while driving but frankly thought that was beyond ridiculous.

No, its called turn the bluetooth on BEFORE using or being in charge of a motor vehicle. I find it hard to believe that it was a “simple swipe of the finger” …… a single swipe of the finger to turn a function of the phone on …… so your partner/husband didn’t have to navigate menu’s to get to the bluetooth section ???? What is the difference between navigating menu’s on a phone and then activating a bluetooth function and texting? Absolutely nothing, your eyes are off the road and your total attention is on the phone.

Have your phone FULLY handsfree before using the vehicle, or accept the consequences when caught.

Does that mean you never adjust the radio, heating, airconditiong in your car when driving? This is no different to what they were suggesting in turning on the bluetooth. My phone is the same, it is a swipe to turn on bluetooth whilst in a craddle. Doing this is no different to changing radio station or track on a cd.

There’s no doubt we should all be in awe of those people who have never spoken to the passenger, turned on the radio or changed its settings, looked down to find the headlight switch or even been distracted by a huge spider running across the windscreen (is it inside or out!!).

The credibility of these (good) laws could be raised by booking the fools pulling out in front of the oncoming traffic (especially if they are talking/texting) and allowing people to turn on their bluetooth …or radio…or headlights.

qbngeek said :

Spideydog said :

…they are also distracted by being or manipulating a phone….

Being a phone? Can a phone be fined for driving? I wonder how the police would write that one up?

And I assume you meant using a phone.

Touché lol Yo’all know what I mean …….

I think the point of stating texting drivers can ‘travel up to 80 metres in five seconds’ highlights the amount of distance someone can travel while their attention is on the phone and not on the road. I thought this was obvious but it appears some don’t understand. In fact, 60 kilometres per hour = 16 metres per second, 80 km/h = 22 mps, 100 km/h = 27 mps, 110 km/h = 30 mps and so on. Think of how long in seconds your attention can be distracted from the road while texting and then how much distance can be covered during this time.

I love how driving while talking on the phone draws cranky remarks, yet getting a bj while cruising calls for high fives!

GottaLoveCanberra5:21 pm 01 Jun 11

Doing anything other than driving while driving is a distraction.

So don’t.

Calamity said :

My partner, who spends a great deal of his work day in his car, got caught whilst stopped at a red light for switching his bluetooth on, whilst the phone was in it’s dock. It’s a quick swipe of a finger to ‘turn on’ the bluetooth system he paid about $500 for so that he wouldn’t ever have to talk/text and drive. He copped a really hefty fine for it, too. He tried to tell the cop what he was doing but cop wasn’t having any of it – just said you are not to touch your phone whilst in the car. If that’s the case – makes the bluetooth system a bit … illegal, really?

I’m all for catching people talking or texting while driving but frankly thought that was beyond ridiculous.

I’m calling bullshit on the circumstances and this is his ‘version’ of the story to stop you getting the shits over the fine.

If this really, REALLY happened it is a no brainer to plead not guilty

Spideydog said :

…they are also distracted by being or manipulating a phone….

Being a phone? Can a phone be fined for driving? I wonder how the police would write that one up?

And I assume you meant using a phone.

Calamity said :

just said you are not to touch your phone whilst in the car. If that’s the case – makes the bluetooth system a bit … illegal, really?

Its a pretty stupid bluetooth system if you need to touch the phone. Mine connects to the phone when I start the car and I have buttons on the steering wheel to operate it.

My mum has one that clips to the sun visor and she just opens the microphone to turn it on and it connects automatically to her phone. Then when she gets a call she presses the big green button on the bluetooth to answer it. It cost her the whole of $60.

A system that requires you to touch the phone is stupid and redundant.

Calamity said :

My partner, who spends a great deal of his work day in his car, got caught whilst stopped at a red light for switching his bluetooth on, whilst the phone was in it’s dock. It’s a quick swipe of a finger to ‘turn on’ the bluetooth system he paid about $500 for so that he wouldn’t ever have to talk/text and drive. He copped a really hefty fine for it, too. He tried to tell the cop what he was doing but cop wasn’t having any of it – just said you are not to touch your phone whilst in the car. If that’s the case – makes the bluetooth system a bit … illegal, really?

I’m all for catching people talking or texting while driving but frankly thought that was beyond ridiculous.

No, its called turn the bluetooth on BEFORE using or being in charge of a motor vehicle. I find it hard to believe that it was a “simple swipe of the finger” …… a single swipe of the finger to turn a function of the phone on …… so your partner/husband didn’t have to navigate menu’s to get to the bluetooth section ???? What is the difference between navigating menu’s on a phone and then activating a bluetooth function and texting? Absolutely nothing, your eyes are off the road and your total attention is on the phone.

Have your phone FULLY handsfree before using the vehicle, or accept the consequences when caught.

Sleaz274 said :

Yet you can eat, smoke, operate a cb, shave, do your make up, operate the cd player/radio, fiddle with the heating, scream at your kids, get a bj…

But you aren’t adult enough to use a phone and accept the obvious consequences when you f*** up.

My mate in blue has said he simply gets his quota a month and leaves it at that because it is a stupid law. They are allowed to use their phones & radios so he feels rather hypocritical booking someone for it.

Calamity I’d be taking that one to court and having a judge throw it out and telling the police to stop wasting everyones time and money. Not allowed to touch your phone in your car, what a wank.

If there are “tens of thousands” of “wankers” doing it then maybe it’s just a stupid law.

And before you all start but, buuuttttt, BUT, what about the children?!?!?!!? Waaaahhhh waaaahhh

I call BS on this one.

Additionally, how many times have you seen a car wandering in a lane and then see the driver talking on a phone, how bout at traffic lights when they go green and the car in front is still stationary, only to find they are also distracted by being or manipulating a phone……… there is plenty of cases of collisions caused by people using phones while driving.

Sleaz274 said :

Yet you can eat, smoke, operate a cb, shave, do your make up, operate the cd player/radio, fiddle with the heating, scream at your kids, get a bj…

But you aren’t adult enough to use a phone and accept the obvious consequences when you f*** up.

My mate in blue has said he simply gets his quota a month and leaves it at that because it is a stupid law. They are allowed to use their phones & radios so he feels rather hypocritical booking someone for it.

Calamity I’d be taking that one to court and having a judge throw it out and telling the police to stop wasting everyones time and money. Not allowed to touch your phone in your car, what a wank.

If there are “tens of thousands” of “wankers” doing it then maybe it’s just a stupid law.

And before you all start but, buuuttttt, BUT, what about the children?!?!?!!? Waaaahhhh waaaahhh

I know – I told him to appeal it, and I absolutely believe it would have been thrown out, but I think he’s just paid it, silly boy.

I just tend to look at a lot of the figures released and wonder how many times somebody gets done for something silly just to up a statistic somewhere…

54-11 said :

Only 200? There are literally thousands if not tens of thousands of wankers out there using their phones. I wish the cops would have a permanent blitz on these ignorant morons.

Agree – with the technology out there now, there is simply no excuse. Don’t bother getting on here and whinging about how unfair life is – get a bluetooth system and move the f#$k on!

Yet you can eat, smoke, operate a cb, shave, do your make up, operate the cd player/radio, fiddle with the heating, scream at your kids, get a bj…

But you aren’t adult enough to use a phone and accept the obvious consequences when you f*** up.

My mate in blue has said he simply gets his quota a month and leaves it at that because it is a stupid law. They are allowed to use their phones & radios so he feels rather hypocritical booking someone for it.

Calamity I’d be taking that one to court and having a judge throw it out and telling the police to stop wasting everyones time and money. Not allowed to touch your phone in your car, what a wank.

If there are “tens of thousands” of “wankers” doing it then maybe it’s just a stupid law.

And before you all start but, buuuttttt, BUT, what about the children?!?!?!!? Waaaahhhh waaaahhh

54-11 said :

Only 200? There are literally thousands if not tens of thousands of wankers out there using their phones. I wish the cops would have a permanent blitz on these ignorant morons.

The worst ones are those who pull out of the driveway or carpark whilst on the phone. Could you really not wait 1 minute before you take to the road??? They’re usually tradies whom I observe doing that.

Only 200? There are literally thousands if not tens of thousands of wankers out there using their phones. I wish the cops would have a permanent blitz on these ignorant morons.

My partner, who spends a great deal of his work day in his car, got caught whilst stopped at a red light for switching his bluetooth on, whilst the phone was in it’s dock. It’s a quick swipe of a finger to ‘turn on’ the bluetooth system he paid about $500 for so that he wouldn’t ever have to talk/text and drive. He copped a really hefty fine for it, too. He tried to tell the cop what he was doing but cop wasn’t having any of it – just said you are not to touch your phone whilst in the car. If that’s the case – makes the bluetooth system a bit … illegal, really?

I’m all for catching people talking or texting while driving but frankly thought that was beyond ridiculous.

“Accidents involving texting drivers are on the rise nationally, and it’s said that texting drivers can travel up to 80 metres in five seconds — this is of serious concern for the driver and other road users.”

As can non texting drivers who are travelling at 57.6km/h…

In fact, it’s also said, and is in fact, fact… texting drivers could travel distances of over 138 metres in 5 seconds on some roads in the ACT, and not be caught by speed cameras.

Hence, we need more speed cameras.

Police have also discovered that white cars are over represented in all crashes, with approx 20% of crashes involving a white car. White cars will now be banned.

In the last 10 years, since the requirement for new drivers to hold a provisional licence from 1 to 3 years, the number of provisional licence holders involved in serious crashes has tripled. Clearly, more speed cameras are needed.

Oh what fun statistics can be.

Anyway 80 metres in 5 seconds is just under 60 km/h.

Watson, what you’re doing is now illegal. You’re not allowed to be on the phone or texting at the lights. I don’t know why. Your phone isn’t even allowed to sit in your lap.

What is there that can’t wait? I’d say you’ve forgotten that everyone in Canberra is personally responsible for running a country of twenty something million people and therefore you’ve no idea how important we all are!

– and it’s said that texting drivers can travel up to 80 metres in five seconds –

Huh?

But good on them. I can’t stand people using their phones whilst driving. What on earth could be that important that it cannot wait until you arrive at your destination, which in Canberra is rarely more than a 10 min drive anyway. Mind you, I have checked and replied to texts whilst waiting at traffic lights. And even ordered take-away. Though last time I had to hang up mid through my order because the light went green and I don’t understand how people manage to change gears and turn right whilst holding a phone?!

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