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First fatal on the roads for over a year

By johnboy 30 April 2012 41

A 23-year-old man has died in hospital from injuries sustained in a single vehicle collision on Tidbinbilla Road, Tharwa which took place on Saturday (April 28) afternoon.

While riding with a friend, Mr Stewart Orme, from Kaleen, lost control of his motorcycle in the incident. He died around 7.55pm last night (Sunday, April 29).

This is the first death to be recorded on ACT roads in more than 12 months.

The fatal collision is being investigated by ACT Policing’s Collision Investigation and Reconstruction Team.

[Courtesy ACT Policing]

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bigred 8:21 pm 09 May 12

Seen in a discussion on a Yahoo forum
Peter Callil said:
Odd to note that the copper talks about his age group, his clothing, obey the speed limits, and the road rules, but doesn’t mention the bloody pothole…….!!
In response, Michael F Lane (Michaellane@optusnet.com.au) said:
He sounds like a Dalek. Obey. Obey.

It is clear that sme people have no sensitivity!

Deref 8:48 am 04 May 12

HenryBG said :

cranky said :

….perhaps a more proactive campaign to notify motorists of danger from degraded roads, ….

Yeah, I’ve got an idea: let’s invent something we can call a “licence” and require that people learn all about how to drive safely for the conditions before they get issued one. Because it’s obviously the government’s fault.

A radical suggestion. But, you know, it just might work!

Cummerbund 8:30 am 04 May 12

My main concern was that access to the Hospital was so difficult for so long. What other lives were potentially at risk because Yamba Drive was blocked for so many hours?

theforce 7:49 am 04 May 12

Cummerbund said :

I was stuck on Hindmarsh, behind an ambulance.. the ambulance driver was silly enough to imagine that he should have been able to drive along part of the four lanes of divided road to enter the hospital.. oh, no.. a u-turn back to the impossibly clogged Palmer Street was Plod’s prescription.
“Hours” of investigation.. access to the hospital blocked, so Officer Obvious could {eventually..} determine that a pedestrian had been hit by a car.
Had your home broken into? Been assaulted? If you’re lucky, you’ll be awarded a case number for your insurance claim..
But, give them a chance to block roads, take lots of photos, stand around for hours doing not much..

Cummerbund, maybe you should head over to the AFP and let them know your available with your
obviously extensive investigative experience. Heaven forbid that the police had to close the road to ensure they collected all of the evidence in the correct manner to maximize the chances of a conviction. As long as you’re not inconvenienced, hey? Fooking douchebag!

ScienceRules 7:41 am 04 May 12

Cummerbund said :

Repairing potholes saves lives, erecting Average Speed Cameras and Fixed Speed Cameras on wide, straight divided roads costs more, but allows politicians to “care”
Another fatality tonight allowed the police to threaten closure of Yamba Drive for “”several hours”..
That was the forecast of local radio.
I was stuck on Hindmarsh, behind an ambulance.. the ambulance driver was silly enough to imagine that he should have been able to drive along part of the four lanes of divided road to enter the hospital.. oh, no.. a u-turn back to the impossibly clogged Palmer Street was Plod’s prescription.
“Hours” of investigation.. access to the hospital blocked, so Officer Obvious could {eventually..} determine that a pedestrian had been hit by a car.
Had your home broken into? Been assaulted? If you’re lucky, you’ll be awarded a case number for your insurance claim..
But, give them a chance to block roads, take lots of photos, stand around for hours doing not much..

Oh boo hoo, someone lost their life but Cummerbund was inconvenienced going home. Oh the humanity! You monumentally selfish creep. Do you really think that the death of a person on the road can be properly investigated by police with a simple “tick and flick sheet”?

I truly hope you feel some semblance of shame over this crass, insensitive, self-absorbed comment.

dpm 7:30 am 04 May 12
Growling Ferret 7:08 am 04 May 12

And Cummerbund finds themselves leading the May Mully.

Most half cocked post of the year. Yamba drive was closed after a fatal hit and run, with a drunk driver trying to escape from the AFP. Nice work d***head.

astrojax 6:59 am 04 May 12

Cummerbund said :

But, give them a chance to block roads, take lots of photos, stand around for hours doing not much..

you really have no idea what transpires at such at incident do you? this is a rather offensive post – let’s hope you don’t ever require these folks’ services…

HenryBG 12:37 am 04 May 12

cranky said :

….perhaps a more proactive campaign to notify motorists of danger from degraded roads, ….

Yeah, I’ve got an idea: let’s invent something we can call a “licence” and require that people learn all about how to drive safely for the conditions before they get issued one. Because it’s obviously the government’s fault.

HenryBG 12:36 am 04 May 12

Cummerbund said :

Repairing potholes saves lives, erecting Average Speed Cameras and Fixed Speed Cameras on wide, straight divided roads costs more, but allows politicians to “care”
Another fatality tonight allowed the police to threaten closure of Yamba Drive for “”several hours”..
That was the forecast of local radio.
I was stuck on Hindmarsh, behind an ambulance.. the ambulance driver was silly enough to imagine that he should have been able to drive along part of the four lanes of divided road to enter the hospital.. oh, no.. a u-turn back to the impossibly clogged Palmer Street was Plod’s prescription.
“Hours” of investigation.. access to the hospital blocked, so Officer Obvious could {eventually..} determine that a pedestrian had been hit by a car.
Had your home broken into? Been assaulted? If you’re lucky, you’ll be awarded a case number for your insurance claim..
But, give them a chance to block roads, take lots of photos, stand around for hours doing not much..

It was still closed at 11:30 when I went past.

Cummerbund 11:33 pm 03 May 12

Repairing potholes saves lives, erecting Average Speed Cameras and Fixed Speed Cameras on wide, straight divided roads costs more, but allows politicians to “care”
Another fatality tonight allowed the police to threaten closure of Yamba Drive for “”several hours”..
That was the forecast of local radio.
I was stuck on Hindmarsh, behind an ambulance.. the ambulance driver was silly enough to imagine that he should have been able to drive along part of the four lanes of divided road to enter the hospital.. oh, no.. a u-turn back to the impossibly clogged Palmer Street was Plod’s prescription.
“Hours” of investigation.. access to the hospital blocked, so Officer Obvious could {eventually..} determine that a pedestrian had been hit by a car.
Had your home broken into? Been assaulted? If you’re lucky, you’ll be awarded a case number for your insurance claim..
But, give them a chance to block roads, take lots of photos, stand around for hours doing not much..

Anna Key 9:05 pm 03 May 12

BelcoMan said :

Anna Key said :

astrojax said :

the cotter loop claims another one… at least he was doing what he loved, i’d guess.

A single vehicle motorbike accident on Tidbinbilla Rd. Might excessive speed been a factor? Or perhaps I’m being too judgemental from being overtaken by bikes doing well over 110 and crossing unbroken white lines.

Condolences to the family

Yes you are being too judgemental and assumptive about facts that haven’t been presented.

As a motorcyclist, I get cut across a number of times daily by drivers on the phone. I am not judgemental enough to think that all drivers are doing it.

This is hardly the place for guesses

Actually, I thought Riot Act is the place for guesses. Facts are for the police, coroner etc to worry about

chris820 8:56 pm 03 May 12

Zan said :

In the first report – which I can’t find – it stated that it was at low speed. Why did I notice this – I am a motorcyclist.

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/motorcyclist-dies-in-hospital-20120430-1xtu9.html
“…from an accident that, in a car, would barely have spilled the driver’s coffee…”
“…it was at generally low speed.”

cranky 6:58 pm 03 May 12

One assumes these potholes are a result of recent wet weather, and that Govco are doing their best to repair them.

One does have to wonder how a Coroner might apportion blame for an accident such as this, where the presence of this particular pothole had such tragic results. Obviously rider ability and the presence of a nearby immoveable object would also contribute heavily to this tragedy.

Far be it from me to blame anyone, but perhaps a more proactive campaign to notify motorists of danger from degraded roads, and perhaps a rating system of road damage on higher speed limited roads resulting in earlier remediation could help.

This guy seems to be a real victim of circumstance. My condolences.

Sandman 10:02 pm 02 May 12

That road is shocking for potholes at the moment. I rode up to Corin Forest on Saturday and hitting some of those patches was sketchy even with the longer than normal suspension travel on my bike. Glad I wasn’t on a proper road bike.

I also noticed that all the damaged areas marked out for repair on on patches where an existing repair has already been performed. And there was a load of them. Maybe they need to reconsider the company doing their repairs. Doesn’t seem like good value to me.

BelcoMan 2:02 pm 02 May 12

Anna Key said :

astrojax said :

the cotter loop claims another one… at least he was doing what he loved, i’d guess.

A single vehicle motorbike accident on Tidbinbilla Rd. Might excessive speed been a factor? Or perhaps I’m being too judgemental from being overtaken by bikes doing well over 110 and crossing unbroken white lines.

Condolences to the family

Yes you are being too judgemental and assumptive about facts that haven’t been presented.

As a motorcyclist, I get cut across a number of times daily by drivers on the phone. I am not judgemental enough to think that all drivers are doing it.

This is hardly the place for guesses

Zan 1:42 pm 02 May 12

From the Canberra Times report:

Mr Crow said the fatal motorcycle accident over the weekend was a freak accident that could have happened to anyone.
”It was just a multitude of bad luck – hitting a pothole at the wrong moment and then veering off the road. It just so happened where he did veer off the road there was something there and he ran into it.”

Read more: http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/killed-motorcyclist-a-special-person-who-put-others-first-20120430-1xvht.html#ixzz1tgEObxCr

In the first report – which I can’t find – it stated that it was at low speed. Why did I notice this – I am a motorcyclist.

am307 12:36 pm 02 May 12

so very sad, condolences to the family.

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