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Flame of the Week – Defending Gold Creek Old Skool

By johnboy 24 May 2009 33

Big ups to my man Drummett who came out of nowhere to claim this week’s coveted FOTW with this stellar effort:

    #14 posted by Dummett
    (Newbie)
    22:53, 24 May 2009

    hey everybody,

    i would just like to start off by saying i am an ex student of gold creek school (1998-2008)and although you could say i have never experinced any other skool frankly i wouldnt want to.

    i had some of the best times of my life at gold creek which i will remember forever, i have made friends that would do anything for me, gained tutors that have influenced my life and made me into the person i am today.

    to be honest i only opened this forum to have a go at who ever had the nerve to bad mouth my skool so please tread lightly because that skool is my life.

Inability to capitalise, veiled threats of violence, and after 10 years at the school can’t spell “school”. Congratulations, you’re our Flame Of The Week!

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AdD1S0N 9:34 pm 02 Jun 09

Roadrage77 said :

Fair enough Granny, but something I’ve pondered on many a sleepless night is: would the youth of today know how to grammatacise properly if their lives depended on it? Or are they really closet spelling-bee champtions who simply choose to spell like imbeciles? Maybe a skool teacher out there could enlighten us?

grammatacise? (that’s not even close to a proper word, maybe you are looking for punctuate?)
champtions?

u sem lik a reel speelin be chamption.

bd84 said :

I think you can get arrested for hanging around schools and it being “your life” if you don’t actually attend there anymore.. as this person claims.

Maybe, Gold Creek was a big part of his life and always will be. I know that you were attempting to be humorous and get a cheep laugh out of your comment but it’s ineffective. Also keep in mind that he is 16 years old and that he went to that school for 10 years. That’s a pretty big fraction, I am sure he can get away with saying that Gold Creek was and still is important to him.

I know Dummett, we finished high school together and have been friends since grade 7. I know him well enough that if he wants to spell the word ‘school’ he is more than capable. Other things you may want to know about Dummett is that he is accomplished in car audio installation which he more or less figured out himself, he is a great musician and gets within the top 5 marks of any Outdoor Ed Unit, he has a quick wit and is funny and nice. He is good at maths and does particularly well in Science.

Several things i have noticed about the school system in the south side.
Lake G is a loved school by a large percentage of students that attend there. Unfortunately, their reputation is down due to their problems several years ago. Hawker on the other hand is a school with a great reputation but a large amount of my friends that go to that school dislike it. (I know that Hawker and Lake G are irrelevant but that was a focus on reputation)

Private schools have their fair share of issues as well. Several people i know/know of constantly take drugs, drink, have sex, fight and are quite stupid. Just because their parents are paying for their education doesn’t necessarily mean they will use it well.

Just because Gold Creek has a horrid reputation doesn’t mean that it is necessarily true and that you will avoid all trouble that gold creek as at different schools.

A lot of Gold Creek students succeed. Some of the smartest people i have ever met attended that school, many were smarter than a lot of adults i know. And as far as i know of, none were illiterate especially by year 10. Those who struggled knew that academics weren’t for them and now they live how they want to.

4 of my friends won a competition for creating a flash game. This competition was for all of Australia, public schools and private schools.

One of my friends recently got Young Canberran of The Year. He had attended Gold Creek since kindergarten.

The list goes on.

As Dummett said, the school is not without it’s problems. But these problems are individually based and definitely not the schools fault.

Love Addison
xoxo

BerraBoy68 9:52 pm 28 May 09

johnboy said :

Pretty poor correlation between “life outlook” and literacy.

You’re hard pushed to find a decent writer anywhere without substance use issues.

JK Rowling?! I know, I know.. you’ll argue the toss regarding whether or not she’s decent. I say ‘yes’, but even if I’m wrong, she’s done quite well for herself.

Dummett 9:29 pm 28 May 09

Hey Rioters, just for the record I’m not illiterate, not a pervert, not being payed to say anything good about the school and wasn’t trying to say Gold creek is the best school in the world and nothing ever goes wrong. Yes there are drugs and there are fights but the school has done everything in its power and continues to do everything in it power to keep kids away from these things. At the end of the day if your kids want to learn they will, if they don’t them won’t simple as that no matter what school you send them to so they may as well have fun?

bd84 10:25 pm 26 May 09

I think you can get arrested for hanging around schools and it being “your life” if you don’t actually attend there anymore.. as this person claims.

monomania 6:01 pm 25 May 09

Jazz said :

neanderthalsis said :

Remember folks, 46% of Australian adults are functionally illiterate ; with the 19 – 30 age group scoring the lowest.

wow, thats a really ordinary reflection of our education systems. Does anyone know if that is improving or not?

Of course it makes a good story but doesn’t tell us much. Anyone who bothers to look at the information on the link can see that on international comparisons Australia was ranked in the middle and when it comes to the ACT

Examining the proportion of those who attained literacy scores of Level 3 or above, the
Australian Capital Territory (ACT) ranked highest on all scales followed by Western
Australia (WA) and South Australia (SA). For the prose and document scales, 68% of
those in ACT attained literacy scores of Level 3 or above, compared to 56% in WA and
55% for prose and 54% for document literacy in SA. On the numeracy scale, 63% of those
in the ACT attained literacy scores of Level 3 or above, compared to 49% for SA and WA.
While the ACT was ranked highest on the problem solving scale, with 46% attaining Level
3 or above, the results were similar across all other states and territories, ranging from
27% to 31% (table 3).

And the steady rise with age might have more to do with practice and experience than teaching standards.

neanderthalsis 4:46 pm 25 May 09

QBN Gal, when talking about the percentage of functionally illiterate Australians, a decrease is actually an improvement. It was 47%, it is now 46%, hence an improvement by 1%.

I might add that 53% of Australian adults are also functionally innumerate.

Qbn Gal 3:53 pm 25 May 09

Sorry, that was directed at Neanderthalsis

Qbn Gal 3:52 pm 25 May 09

“In the ten years between 1996 and 2006 it improved from 47% to 46%. So with that rate of improvement, in 500 years we should be at 100%.”

Given that your example has it DECREASE in the ten years from 1996 to 2006, it will be 0% in about 450 years

Jim Jones 1:25 pm 25 May 09

Granny said :

I actually believe it’s a combination.

+1

Some people respond better to phonics, others respond better to WOL.

Granny 1:07 pm 25 May 09

I actually believe it’s a combination.

neanderthalsis 1:03 pm 25 May 09

Jazz said :

neanderthalsis said :

Remember folks, 46% of Australian adults are functionally illiterate ; with the 19 – 30 age group scoring the lowest.

wow, thats a really ordinary reflection of our education systems. Does anyone know if that is improving or not?

In the ten years between 1996 and 2006 it improved from 47% to 46%. So with that rate of improvement, in 500 years we should be at 100%.

Literacy development is an ideological battle zone between proponents of differing pedagogical methodologies. In the blue corner we have phonics, and in the red corner, “whole of language”.

The contemporary approach (since the early 1980’s) is using the “whole of language” approach, but we phonic purists argue that this doesn’t teach the rules of sound formation and word synthesis.

Some recent work out of Macquarie University (MULTILIT – Making up for lost time in Literacy)has used phonics to teach students who were reading at 5 or more years below their age levels and saw most of them catch up or in some cases, surpass age level reading in less than 6 months.

Granny 1:01 pm 25 May 09

In the 80s they took out tables and grammar and spelling. I was really upset about it at the time.

By the time the kids got to high school the maths teachers were like, well, they’ll just have to use calculators. Tear their hair as they might, they couldn’t compensate for a missing primary education in basic arithmetic.

It was all very touchy and feely and arty farty but it couldn’t have been evidence based. At the time this educational philosophy was so politically correct that parents who questioned it were treated like ignorant nut-jobs. It was so frustrating.

Being on the pension, I couldn’t just up and take my business elsewhere; which is why to this day I believe that a strong, quality public education system is so important, and that even if you can’t afford to vote with your feet the parents who can do send some kind of message to the government of the day which they must eventually confront.

My older kids make do with calculators and spelling and grammar checkers. They’re not perfect but it’s the tools they’ve been left with. They are intelligent people and have had some incentive to improve the professional appearance of their written work to further their careers.

I still cringe at some of the spellings on their Facebook posts, though.

Jim Jones 12:44 pm 25 May 09

jessieduck said :

johnboy said :

Pretty poor correlation between “life outlook” and literacy.

You’re hard pushed to find a decent writer anywhere without substance use issues.

I think Jane Austin was pretty clean living JB

Yeah, but Jane Austen is boring as hell … unless there are vampires involved: http://www.amazon.com/Pride-Prejudice-Zombies-Classic-Ultraviolent/dp/1594743347

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