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Flame of The Week – VvV in defence of Elkie Stuart

By johnboy 19 November 2008 94

It appears we’re going to have to discontinue “Nutter of the Month” for reasons which may become clear later in the week.

But there’s nothing to stop us celebrating the best flames. On that basis I’d like to congratulate VvV for providing the inaugural FoTW in defence of the classically elegant Elkie Stuart:

    I was simply searching for a picture of what Elkie was wearing on the day when i came across this, and i can honestly say it disgusted me. I have known Elkie for years and i can honestly say she is one of the most beautiful (inside and out) people i have ever had the pleasure of knowing. I can not believe that you are referring to her facebook profile picture as an example of her being trashy!? Are you kidding me!? That picture was taken at one of her friends 21st birthday party where the theme was “doctors and nurses” and if you ask me that is one of the least skanky nurses costumes i have ever seen. What the hell are you talking about cleavage!? can you see any!? no! Yes, she has a glass of champagne. oh wow. that must mean shes a trash bag. She is a 21 year old girl. give her a break. She was simply saying that there used to be a time where there was a standard of dressing for women at the races (as there still is for men) and it does seem that these days the fashion has drastically changed from elegant, beautiful racing dresses and accesories to the latest clubbing dress with the highest stilettos available.. which will be sure to come off after 3. Dont get me wrong, i have nothing against party dresses but there is a time and a place, and i dont think the races is one of them. It does really change the atmosphere at the races, which is really unfortunate, the races used to be such an upscale event but teh standards have really plummeted recently. As for the dig at her music, seriously, what is wrong with you people!? Elkie is an incredibly talented country musician, i would have thought that would only add to her appeal!? She is a strikingly beautiful girl from the country who is down the earth, caring, generous, has a killer sense of humour and fun who is also incredibly talented and dresses well. As for the suggestion that she won because of her family connections and calling her a “Red hill girl” i think this is completely ridiculous! I was torn between anger and laughter when i read this. Would you Mrs Grundy ever refer to someone as a “belconnen” girl!? is this just a stab at her familys wealth!? how ridiculous, you must have one hell of a chip on your shoulder. Her family is the LEAST snobby family i have ever met, they are completely lovely and warm. They used to live on a dairy farm and yet now your refering to them as a “red hill” family!? why should where someone lives have ANYTHING to do with the type of people they are. This discussion (with the exception of a few posts) has really saddened me. That there are people out there willing to completely hack into someone they dont know at all because of absolutely nothing. Surely there are people who are more deserving of your criticism than a beautiful lovely 21 year old girl who very deservedly won a fantastic comp.

The spelling is a little good for a classic flame, but the lack of paragraphs, the block caps, exclamation marks, lower case “i” and the odd “teh”… they’re all top work.

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Pandy 7:11 pm 21 Nov 08

Looking for a person and then finding a photo on Facebook is not stalking

GB 6:19 pm 21 Nov 08

You can freely say “What is wrong with you people?” to any group of anonymous people who seem to be behaving as an aggressive herd, in the context of that specific criticism of their behaviour, without me leaping to their defence. Unless I think that is not what they are doing, in which case I will defend them. As I will try to defend anyone when I think the mocking, slander, bullying, pillorying etc, by people who are hiding behind aliases, is getting out of hand.

When its not getting out of hand, I join in. Hoping that if I get out of hand, someone will pull me up.

Granny 4:27 pm 21 Nov 08

I don’t want to throw stones at you, AngryHenry. I don’t think you’re a hypocrite. I think you’re a passionate person, and I know what that’s like. It gets me into all sorts of trouble all the time. I’ll never be a diplomat or a politician or anything. I’d make a good protester or activist or something.

I still think Mrs G is a good sort. I have a pretty good instinct for people on the whole. Sometimes even when I sense somebody’s dangerous or poisonous I will still let them close if I feel their pain strongly. But Mrs G is ok.

It’s a nice photo. Elkie likes it. I like it. Mrs G probably even liked it. She just has the kind of sense of humour based on irony. It was just ironic. She saw the irony. She wasn’t trying to be mean or horrible.

Anyhow, I think we will have to agree to disagree as this is no doubt getting boring for everyone else.

AngryHenry 4:16 pm 21 Nov 08

I just realised how open-ended my last comment was, so bring on the cries of hypocrite!!! haha!

I did ASSUME that the person went out of their way to find a picture of Elkie. In explaining themselves to me they did say they actually were, however they were looking for a picture of her on cup day, but couldn’t find one so used the naughty nurse one (which in my opinion was out of context) instead. So it is what it is, to me the actions in this case speak louder than any words.

AngryHenry 3:45 pm 21 Nov 08

Granny said :

We all cop a bit of flak for our opinions on RiotACT from time to time. I just felt Mrs G was kind of newbie and innocent and we should be a bit gentle with her. I don’t think women have as much emotional armour as men, although in some ways we’re stronger. I just thought she might be hurting and thinking, you know, “That’s not who I am.”

Yeah look I appreciate your empathy, I really do…

I refer to you to my earlier Batman comment, ‘It’s not who I am but what I do that defines me’. A shallow reference to pop culture however a poingnant statement all the same.

I’ve learn’t the hard way posting harsh comments online as I’m sure we all have. Will I continue to voice my opinion? Hell yeah!

I think perspective is very important, you can’t take something personally when people don’t know anything about you. It’s when they don’t know anything about you and assume things that really gets my back up.

Granny 3:04 pm 21 Nov 08

We all cop a bit of flak for our opinions on RiotACT from time to time. I just felt Mrs G was kind of newbie and innocent and we should be a bit gentle with her. I don’t think women have as much emotional armour as men, although in some ways we’re stronger. I just thought she might be hurting and thinking, you know, “That’s not who I am.”

AngryHenry 3:01 pm 21 Nov 08

PreciousLilywhite said :

I’m sense a little irony in that statement.

Oh because Elkie made a comment about what people wear at the races? Or is it just because I come across as a cranky b@stard who speaks his mind and it sounds hypocritical of me to say something like that? My backyard’s pretty respectable I think, obviously there are a few weeds here and there, but hey, everyone has trouble with weeds!

Don’t leave me hanging with a comment like that. Now I have to assume and I hate assuming.

PreciousLilywhite 2:55 pm 21 Nov 08

It’s got nothing to do with ‘defending a lady’s honour’ and everything to do with people taking a look in their own backyard before they knock someone else.

I’m sense a little irony in that statement.

AngryHenry 2:49 pm 21 Nov 08

Granny said :

I see it differently, AngryHenry.

I think it’s nice that you want to defend a lady’s honour though.

I have never said anything bad about Elkie however, and I really don’t think Mrs G did either. Some of Elkie’s friends I haven’t been too fond of, which I think I have made clear.

You are entitled to your opinion and I don’t want to upset you.

If you can find some way in which I’ve slandered her I will certainly apologise. I really have nothing against her whatsoever.

Yeah I don’t recall saying at any stage you slandered her Granny.

I just think this joint is a two-way street or at least it should be. And if you want to post a picture of someone you don’t know in response to an article, or if you want to post anything slightly controversial for that matter, you have to be prepared for the fact that not everyone is going to respond positively to your actions or words or whatever the case may be.

It’s got nothing to do with ‘defending a lady’s honour’ and everything to do with people taking a look in their own backyard before they knock someone else.

Granny 1:29 pm 21 Nov 08

I see it differently, AngryHenry.

I think it’s nice that you want to defend a lady’s honour though.

I have never said anything bad about Elkie however, and I really don’t think Mrs G did either. Some of Elkie’s friends I haven’t been too fond of, which I think I have made clear.

You are entitled to your opinion and I don’t want to upset you.

If you can find some way in which I’ve slandered her I will certainly apologise. I really have nothing against her whatsoever.

AngryHenry 12:36 pm 21 Nov 08

Granny said :

You seem to be quite happy to pick on Mrs G, AngryHenry. It is ok to slander somebody as long as you are doing it, it seems.

I don’t think it’s okay. You have to remember that I didn’t start this. And I don’t think I’ve slandered anyone really, merely commented on their actions which, in my opinion, speak for themselves.

PBO 11:25 am 21 Nov 08

johnboy said :

proto-bogan

much like a westie but wearing an iron maiden tshirt and tighter jeans.

mostly extinct.

There are still some pockets of resistance in Higgins,Holt, Flynn, Kambah, Fraser, Charnwood, Dunlop, Gungahlin, Nichols, Some in tuggeranong and a smattering in Woden.

I think that you forgot to mention the short front and sides haircut, Business up front and a party out back.

This whole thread is a just the result of tall poppy syndrome. Someone succeeded at something, and so the masses have to tear it down to justify their own sad existences.

Granny 11:20 am 21 Nov 08

You seem to be quite happy to pick on Mrs G, AngryHenry. It is ok to slander somebody as long as you are doing it, it seems.

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