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“Free Tibet” skywriter above the Torch Relay this morning

By crazybrave 24 April 2008 160

Did anyone else catch the skywriting this morning? Image here is from the ArtWranglers blog:

Torch Relay skywriting Free Tibet

[ED – Beckumer actually got in with this story first adding “I heard a rumour this was done by the Greens” but Crazybrave won out by providing the picture.]

UPDATE – ED – Probally worth a post of it’s own but news.com.au has this article about clashes between pro-China and Tibetan demonstrators with some VERY interesting SKY NEWS footage and commentary showing AFP officers pulling the Chinese “flame attendants” away from the torch.

FURTHER UPDATE: A mashup of the Nine and ABC evening news coverage can be seen thanks to YouTube:

Also this comment by Toadstool is worth more attention:

A very shaken work collegue has just come into the office. She was walking across Commowealth bridge when she came across a group of Chinese attacking a lone Tibetan on the north side of the bridge. When she tried to intervene, she was attacked too. There were about 30 Chinese attacking two people, so she fled. Did anyone witness this? Where were the police? What has happened to the poor tibetan guy

FURTHER FURTHER UPDATE:
The Tibet Infomation Office – An official agency of His Holiness the Dalai Lama and the Tibetan Government in Exile – has posted numerous stories on Canberra and the torch relay

[Ed. seems that the ill will between supporters and protesters was not isolated to the incident above. Sal Paradise sent in the following experience]

This morning I protested with my Tibetan national flag on the Olympic torch relay route.

At 9:15am I had to go to work, so handed my flag to a young lady to carry on through the morning. I received a text from her at about 10:30am that a group of China supporters took the Tibet flag from her and threw it in Lake Burley Griffin.

It’s unfortunate to see this people acting in this way – that China supporters cannot accept Australians’ right to protest. When you think about it, that group of China supporters ganging up on a lone protester were faithfully carrying out there own government’s modus operandi: using force to prevent a others speaking freely.


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tap 9:44 am 27 Apr 08

CanberraResident: You’ve had a while so im guessing you wont be replying. Pathetic. In future how about you dont ask people to justify themselves if you wont justify yourself?

tap 9:38 am 27 Apr 08

Special G, I think there is a bit of a difference between calling CanberraResident stupid on RiotACT for some very legitimate reasons and being part of a mob that seriously physically intimidates a couple of ageing women, but thats me.

The tactics of the pro-chinese were not good, but it would have been a low percentage of them who actually did anything particularly bad. Trouble is there was so many that a low percentage is still a fair few people.

Deadmandrinking 11:05 pm 26 Apr 08

Nationalism is no excuse for that kind of a behavior, no matter who’s doing it and where.

NickD 9:08 pm 26 Apr 08

“why couldn’t they be peaceful?”

Because they were having a nationalist fit.

Deadmandrinking 2:48 pm 26 Apr 08

Thanks Proud Local, GMT, Thumper. The police did a good job, as far as I could see. Crowd protection did lack in some areas, but it was an immense task and I can’t blame the hard-working coppers for that. I admire how they held their rights to security over the chinese ‘stewards’ Also props to the SES for their efforts. I was quite impressed by the way the relay was actually done by all the people working on it.

It was half and half, circusmind. There were some very calm chinese supporters. Even some of the ones who criticized my protest were reasonable about it, i.e. not roaring or being violent. But there were a few f*ktards who felt it was a personal attack and that they had to get in my face screaming, not to mention the ones who were directed by some dodgy-ass sunglass man to try and block the sign with their flags. The violence against innocent women and peaceful protesters was disgusting and should not be put up with by anyone. I was peaceful (although, I swear if this one guy hadn’t got out of my face…I was having ALOT of trouble trying to maintain calm), why couldn’t they be peaceful?

circusmind 2:14 pm 26 Apr 08

captainwhorebags said :

circusmind: yeah, I’m sure there were more than just a few bad apples on the day, but every Chinese person I saw on the morning seemed friendly, excited to be there and completely non-violent. I’m not denying that there were plenty incidences of violence, but I think labelling anyone with a Chinese flag as a “commie thug” is inaccurate and unhelpful.

LOOKOUT, REDS UNDER THE BEDS, AMIRITE?

Were you along the torch route itself? The Chinese there seemed a lot more placid. Where I was–Parliament and Commonwealth Park, the crowd was a lot more volatile.

I’ll admit that my perception of the crowd was probably skewed. After you see one bunch of uniformed kids screaming and carrying on like thugs, it’s easy to read malice into the excitement and incomprehensible shouting of the rest. Still, I got a bad vibe off most of them, and I did give a friendly “ni hao” to some of the more amiable-looking ones.

Special G 1:19 pm 26 Apr 08

I feel that there are a number of people who have commented here who have tried to shout down Canberra Resident and his views. Whilst doing this they have been swearing, calling him names and the like, yet in the same posts going on about how the Chinese thugs mobbed and shouted down the Tibetan protesters.

You are a bunch of hypocrits

GnT 12:07 pm 26 Apr 08

welkin – so not only is the 25th sacred but we have to keep the 24th free as well?

tap 9:44 am 26 Apr 08

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/04/25/2227800.htm – Apparently the Chinese will resume talks with the Dalail Lama. This is some good news.

captainwhorebags 8:56 am 26 Apr 08

circusmind: yeah, I’m sure there were more than just a few bad apples on the day, but every Chinese person I saw on the morning seemed friendly, excited to be there and completely non-violent. I’m not denying that there were plenty incidences of violence, but I think labelling anyone with a Chinese flag as a “commie thug” is inaccurate and unhelpful.

LOOKOUT, REDS UNDER THE BEDS, AMIRITE?

welkin31 8:31 am 26 Apr 08

Imagine back in time, pre-Kevin I guess, when some functionary in the public service first gets the news that the torch will arrive here on 23 April.
I would have thought they might think, “cripes a bit close to ANZAC Day”. But let’s skip past that.
Now we know the torch flew in on the morning of the 23rd and I have a question here. All logic would seem to say, “run the event in the middle of the day when disruption would be least, get the relay over on that day”. That then gives a day clear before the 25th.
Now we know the “powers that be” simply wasted 24 hrs until the day before ANZAC Day, the 24th was also the day of the HMS Sydney Commemoration.
Why and how did Australia agree to this torch relay / media event being run unnecessarily closer to ANZAC Day ?
Correct me if I am wrong but the only people I can think of who gained by delaying the relay till the 24th were the Chinese who obviously found it easier to drum up their coach loads of “rent-a-crowd” on the day before a public holiday than the Wednesday which would have meant breaking into the 4 day week.
Can any readers cast light on how the decision was reached not to run on the 23rd ?
A fascinating revelation of a potential “Fifth Column” here too.

tap 1:07 am 26 Apr 08

CanberraResident: So once again you have ignored my comment.

circusmind 12:05 am 26 Apr 08

captainwhorebags said :

Dave_K: maybe the Chinese Govt thought that the Chinese expat community would like to be a part of something special for their country, rather than some sinister plot to stamp out any protest.

I truly have no idea either way, but I think if the Australian govt provided money and transport for expats in Europe to attend a service at Gallipoli that this would be perfectly okay.

The mass-produced shirts reading ‘One China’ and other slogans seem to indicate the political agenda being pursued by the Chinese. The commie thugs weren’t chanting ‘Olympics’ they were chanting ‘One China’ and ‘Go Away’ and ‘You have no right’.

captainwhorebags 11:35 pm 25 Apr 08

Dave_K: maybe the Chinese Govt thought that the Chinese expat community would like to be a part of something special for their country, rather than some sinister plot to stamp out any protest.

I truly have no idea either way, but I think if the Australian govt provided money and transport for expats in Europe to attend a service at Gallipoli that this would be perfectly okay.

Dave_K 11:04 pm 25 Apr 08

Many hundreds, if not thousands, of the ‘pro-China’ crowd were bused into Canberra at the behest of the Chinese Government. Many of them disregarded the rights of others to engage in their own peaceful expression of their point of view. Much of the police security effort was focused at preventing the ‘pro-China’ mob doing over the considerably outnumbered Tibetan protestors, largely as a result of the Chinese Government’s mobilisation of its nationals in Australia. Anyone else offended by the Chinese Government’s direct hand in all of this? Why have we let the tyrants of Beijing manipulate our freedoms in this way?

realityskin 10:37 pm 25 Apr 08

CanberraResident said :

I rest my case. Nothing further.

CanberraResident , rubbish, you’ve said the same numerous times, just shut the fukc up , ok ?

el 10:07 pm 25 Apr 08

Wedding vegetables? Heh…

el 10:06 pm 25 Apr 08

??? I didn’t protest actually, but don’t let that stop your (drunken?) ranting.

shiny flu 9:27 pm 25 Apr 08

Has anyone come to the possible conclusion that just maybe CANBERRA RESIDENT is a victim of Domestic Violence?

The poor sod has had his masculinity removed (via wife with kitchen knife because he wouldn’t shut up) and hence now demands that everyone should protest RE: the removing of wedding vegetables until they grow back?

CanberraResident 9:13 pm 25 Apr 08

Not losing any argument el, your ACT Tibetan leader managed to do that on tonight’s Stateline program. She flustered her way through the interview like she had absolutely no idea what she was talking about. The Chinese fella came out on top.Tibetans peaceful people? Not a chance after what they’ve created.

Oh, and the fact that you are trying too link me to someone else just shows that you’ve spent way too much time on these silly blogs. I’ve been on this site 6 weeks – never even heard of the site before then. I am not one to change my name and come back with a new name as some fool has suggested – no need to do that.

Glad to see the “peaceful” Tibetan people have such fools as yourself as one of their short-term supporters … you go hand-in-hand with the blithering idiot of a woman on Stateline tonight … gosh that was embarrassing for Tibetans everywhere …

Rave on to your hearts content, and when you find a new “cause”, make sure to tell us all about it, but pleeease, next time, don’t look up the “cause” on Wikipedia and cutting and pasting it into this blog like you did earlier … duckbrain, pffft

I rest my case. Nothing further.

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