7 August 2012

Fully Sick Drag Race?

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2600inHD has made this contribution to YouTube with this note:

The RushhouR crew drag racing in Woden.

RushhouR is the ‘underground’ car club of Canberra. They consistantly participate in burnouts, drag-racing, drifting and other hoon related activities.

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LSWCHP said :

19 year old Kimberley Conna in Sydney would probably be saddened if she could see this video right now. She might say “Don’t do that”. Unfortunately she can’t because she’s dead. According to witnesses, her and a friend were having a bit of a drag race this afternoon, and she and her friend put both their cars into a light pole at high speed. The cars burst into pieces and caught fire respectively.

Kimberley was 6 months pregnant when she died this afternoon, so there’s an added burden for the survivors to carry.

Kimberley’s boyfriend Kyle was in the car with her. He has massive head injuries and is not expected to survive. Not surprising, given the state of the vehicles after impact.

By a terrible coincidence, Kyle’s dad happened on the scene, and got out to help as a man would, not realising for a while that his son was in one of the mangled wrecks. The Daily Tele, with stunningly poetic elegance, described this terrible event as “A Sad Twist”. I can’t imagine the horror of coming upon one of my sons under these circumstances.

Apoc and friends, that’s the reality of what happens when things turn pear-shaped at speed. Think on it for a while and maybe reconsider the next time you feel the urge to press hard on that pedal. Check out the pictures of Kimberly and Kyle together when she was alive, and the stinking burnt out pile of crap she died in. It’s not pretty or glamorous. Remember that you are not bulletproof. This could happen to you.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/street-racing-claims-as-teen-dies-in-fiery-crash/story-e6freuy9-1226444260402

Again, RH is not a street racing group, to everyone talking about speed/racing etc RH is burnouts only.

She was at fault, we disagree with street racing for this very reason.

She was most likely road-educated around messages telling her blankly “Speeding kills”, “People die in car crashes” and “breaking the law gets you fines”.

However if young drivers were educated with things such as (rough example):
* Losing control of your vehicle can happen to anyone, speed increases the odds.
* Be aware and courteous to bad drivers as they do exist and can without warning slam on the brakes at a roundabout with no traffic for no reason at all (etc)
* Increased stress on tyres when cornering at speed can result in losing control of a vehicle
and show them some images of dead bodies in cars, add some shock factor in.

Honestly, the driver education and road awareness campaigns are not good enough, they have lost touch with the younger demographic. but if a select few can influence people to take actions to reduce their chances of being involved in a fatal accident we will take that opportunity where we can.

colourful sydney rac:
I have come on here to remind people that RH is not a street racing group, If I did answer your question – in the context you have asked it – I would not do it on a public forum for a start, However RH as a group offers a less public place to go, what people do when they get there is their own choice and are reminded that if they get caught they face a hefty fine, 3 month impound and minimum 3 month loss of license all included in the court summons package for a burnout.

VY_BerlinaV8 “If that’s the best you can do, then your best isn’t good enough.”
Well do better? get as much influence as we have and put it to good use?

As for everyone blankly stating “what you do is encourage people to break the law”
laws are designed to keep the community safe and to maintain fairness right? if we are partaking in activities away from the community and we by choice choose to be there, who are we harming?

I have already stated that no place exists to legally to do it at convenience, its a simple act, Why would I drive 4 hours to Western Sydney Dragway on a Wednesday after work to do a 1 to 5 minute burnout and drive back?

vg “What’s your address…..or don’t like it???”
LOL tough keyboard guy, there is always one.. happy to talk one on one, if you feel that strongly that you wish to take a swing, then take a swing and we will go from there, or you don’t like it?

rhino said :

I agree with this completely. I’m keen for a drag strip, track and burnout area and/or better skidpan, but I think all things should ultimately be funded privately. I’d happily pay to use it. The last one was working that way, so a new one could too. Some government start up money or loan would be good though and it’d be fair since hte government is to blame for there not being one until now. If there weren’t all the laws and regulations about it, they would have made one already

The history detailed above is much as I recollect.

However, this history should be updated, and the determination of the wretched Stanhope to ensure this facility must never proceed should be detailed.

Stanhope Labor promised in the (2004?)election leadup that they would commit $8m towards the construction costs of a replacement dragstrip. On re-election, the money appeared in the budget, but Sonic arranged for the noise limits for motorsport to be lowered to such limits that no competition could legally take place. With that problem solved, the money was quietly returned to consolidated revenue about 2 budgets later.

Apart from the AMP, no other group has indicated any willingness to proceed with any motorsport facilities. I’d love to hear other parties policies on this subject.

“Fully sick”? Well, I’d probably say “very sick”, but yeah.

qbngeek said :

I also think a long strip of tarmac next to an active runway might be a bit confusing …

You mean like the existing tarmac taxiways that have not been confusing pilots for several decades now ???

rhino said :

qbngeek said :

Much better. Now onto the important issue that I do actually agree that the original dragway was taken away unfairly and I have no issue with another being built. The matter of funding it is a different story as I beleive it should be self funding like the old one was, even if the government was to loan the money somehow to have it built and then it gets paid back. I also think a long strip of tarmac next to an active runway might be a bit confusing but there is plenty of space on Majura Range that Defence don’t use along Sutton Road.

I agree with this completely. I’m keen for a drag strip, track and burnout area and/or better skidpan, but I think all things should ultimately be funded privately. I’d happily pay to use it. The last one was working that way, so a new one could too. Some government start up money or loan would be good though and it’d be fair since hte government is to blame for there not being one until now. If there weren’t all the laws and regulations about it, they would have made one already

Ah yes politicians what can one say except that integrity has always played second fiddle to deception if it suits their purpose!

qbngeek said :

Much better. Now onto the important issue that I do actually agree that the original dragway was taken away unfairly and I have no issue with another being built. The matter of funding it is a different story as I beleive it should be self funding like the old one was, even if the government was to loan the money somehow to have it built and then it gets paid back. I also think a long strip of tarmac next to an active runway might be a bit confusing but there is plenty of space on Majura Range that Defence don’t use along Sutton Road.

I agree with this completely. I’m keen for a drag strip, track and burnout area and/or better skidpan, but I think all things should ultimately be funded privately. I’d happily pay to use it. The last one was working that way, so a new one could too. Some government start up money or loan would be good though and it’d be fair since hte government is to blame for there not being one until now. If there weren’t all the laws and regulations about it, they would have made one already

bundah said :

qbngeek said :

bundah said :

RadioVK said :

bundah said :

RadioVK said :

bundah said :

farnarkler said :

Unfortunately a Canberra dragway is going the same way as the light rail; IT WON’T HAPPEN. In 2006 the ACT gov’t report reckoned a 1/4 mile dragway would cost around $12.5 million.

Ah yes the demise of the original 1/8 mile Canberra International Dragway back in 1998 occurred as a result of surreptitious dealings involving the sale of Canberra Airport by Carnell and Smyth to Tezza ‘mega rich’ Snow.Tezza told those two clowns that he would buy the Airport for about $45m with the proviso that the dragway disappear within five years and of course they bent over and spread their cheeks and said ram it home Tezza!

Actually I don’t think the two events were linked at all.

IIRC the land on which the dragway is sited is owned by the Department of Defence, and when the lease came up for renewal, Defence were only willing to offer the operator a 2 or 3 year lease. The operator was intending to upgrade the facility, but without the security of a long term lease, saw it quite rightly as a poor investment. As the facilities were in desperate need of upgrading if the dragway were to continue operating, they chose to walk away. I remember distinctly several interviews of the guy who ran it by local news reports, and he said basically this.

I kind of doubt that Terry Snow would have cared one way or the other if the dragway had remained open anyway.

As i recall the operators of the dragway initially signed a ten year lease in 1988 with a further ten year option after the initial period expired.The Defence Dept had no real use for the land as is evident by the fact that there has been absolutely no activity there in the last 14 years.The dragway operators were offered a 5 year only lease at the end of 1998 which they declined given they felt it was merely a token gesture by Carnell who wanted to money from the sale of the airport.As i understand it Snow wanted the option of potentially securing that land for other possible projects he had in mind hence the 5 year offer.Make no mistake Tezza was cracking the whip and he got what he wanted.

You may be right.

I just can’t see what possible use the land could be put to. That entire area is too close to the approach of runway 30 to be of any use for any development project due to height restriction and noise impact issues I would have thought. That may explain why nothing else has ever gone in there since.

And I can’t see DoD rolling over just because Terry Snow & Kate Carnell asked them nicely…

Now that you mention runway 30,which i believe is the smaller one that runs almost parallel to the old dragway approx 100 metres apart,i do recall that there was concern by some that pilots using that runway could potentially confuse it with the dragstrip. I also suspect that Snow wanted to keep his options open ie. possibly extending that runway with Defence approval and there was also talk of potentially using that area for a VFT down the track.In any case it was fairly clear to me that Snow’s attitude was the dragway had to go if he was buying the airport.

Okay, this is really annoying me and I can’t keep quiet any longer. I really need to point out one vital piece of information that renders some of the arguments here completely incorrect. It has also been pointed out in previous discussions about the airport.

Kate Carnell did not sell Canberra Airport as it was not hers to sell and more importantly it cannot be sold only leased. All Federal Airports are owned by the Commonwealth Government and were managed by the Federal Airports Corporation. In 1998 the Federales decided to shut down FAC and the airports were leased out on 50 year leases with a 49 year option.

Your point of clarification re that it was leased and not sold is noted and accepted however it changes absolutely nothing in relation to what transpired ie. Snow paid for the rights to lease the airport to the tune of about $45m and that he effectively brought about the demise of the dragway.Happy now?

Much better. Now onto the important issue that I do actually agree that the original dragway was taken away unfairly and I have no issue with another being built. The matter of funding it is a different story as I beleive it should be self funding like the old one was, even if the government was to loan the money somehow to have it built and then it gets paid back. I also think a long strip of tarmac next to an active runway might be a bit confusing but there is plenty of space on Majura Range that Defence don’t use along Sutton Road.

I was walking along on the footpath near a (traffic light) intersection just after 5pm last night when I heard a V8 turning right through the intersection give it a bootful, with engine roaring and wheels spinning away. Next I hear the squeal of brakes and a loud crunch!
So, I run over to see if everyone is OK, and there is a lone boy (maybe about 18?) already talking on his phone (probably to mum or dad) while standing next to his/their car, which he had spun and put arse first into the barrier at the side of the road.
The road was dry and those lights have a green ‘arrow’ for that turn (like all intersections in Cbr seem to!), so minimal need to accelerate through the corner like he did.
Anyway, I wonder if he has learnt his lesson about driving like the road is a racetrack – especially when the road was quite busy with everyone on their way home? He looked very sheepish standing there with his car facing the wrong way while the traffic drove past him! That’s the sort of thing that really stuffs up your day.
We’ve all done stupid things like this in our yoof I suppose. In this case, thankfully, it looked like a better way for him to learn a lesson than by wrapping himself (and others) around a tree. Kids these days……! 😉

qbngeek said :

bundah said :

RadioVK said :

bundah said :

RadioVK said :

bundah said :

farnarkler said :

Unfortunately a Canberra dragway is going the same way as the light rail; IT WON’T HAPPEN. In 2006 the ACT gov’t report reckoned a 1/4 mile dragway would cost around $12.5 million.

Ah yes the demise of the original 1/8 mile Canberra International Dragway back in 1998 occurred as a result of surreptitious dealings involving the sale of Canberra Airport by Carnell and Smyth to Tezza ‘mega rich’ Snow.Tezza told those two clowns that he would buy the Airport for about $45m with the proviso that the dragway disappear within five years and of course they bent over and spread their cheeks and said ram it home Tezza!

Actually I don’t think the two events were linked at all.

IIRC the land on which the dragway is sited is owned by the Department of Defence, and when the lease came up for renewal, Defence were only willing to offer the operator a 2 or 3 year lease. The operator was intending to upgrade the facility, but without the security of a long term lease, saw it quite rightly as a poor investment. As the facilities were in desperate need of upgrading if the dragway were to continue operating, they chose to walk away. I remember distinctly several interviews of the guy who ran it by local news reports, and he said basically this.

I kind of doubt that Terry Snow would have cared one way or the other if the dragway had remained open anyway.

As i recall the operators of the dragway initially signed a ten year lease in 1988 with a further ten year option after the initial period expired.The Defence Dept had no real use for the land as is evident by the fact that there has been absolutely no activity there in the last 14 years.The dragway operators were offered a 5 year only lease at the end of 1998 which they declined given they felt it was merely a token gesture by Carnell who wanted to money from the sale of the airport.As i understand it Snow wanted the option of potentially securing that land for other possible projects he had in mind hence the 5 year offer.Make no mistake Tezza was cracking the whip and he got what he wanted.

You may be right.

I just can’t see what possible use the land could be put to. That entire area is too close to the approach of runway 30 to be of any use for any development project due to height restriction and noise impact issues I would have thought. That may explain why nothing else has ever gone in there since.

And I can’t see DoD rolling over just because Terry Snow & Kate Carnell asked them nicely…

Now that you mention runway 30,which i believe is the smaller one that runs almost parallel to the old dragway approx 100 metres apart,i do recall that there was concern by some that pilots using that runway could potentially confuse it with the dragstrip. I also suspect that Snow wanted to keep his options open ie. possibly extending that runway with Defence approval and there was also talk of potentially using that area for a VFT down the track.In any case it was fairly clear to me that Snow’s attitude was the dragway had to go if he was buying the airport.

Okay, this is really annoying me and I can’t keep quiet any longer. I really need to point out one vital piece of information that renders some of the arguments here completely incorrect. It has also been pointed out in previous discussions about the airport.

Kate Carnell did not sell Canberra Airport as it was not hers to sell and more importantly it cannot be sold only leased. All Federal Airports are owned by the Commonwealth Government and were managed by the Federal Airports Corporation. In 1998 the Federales decided to shut down FAC and the airports were leased out on 50 year leases with a 49 year option.

Your point of clarification re that it was leased and not sold is noted and accepted however it changes absolutely nothing in relation to what transpired ie. Snow paid for the rights to lease the airport to the tune of about $45m and that he effectively brought about the demise of the dragway.Happy now?

bundah said :

RadioVK said :

bundah said :

RadioVK said :

bundah said :

farnarkler said :

Unfortunately a Canberra dragway is going the same way as the light rail; IT WON’T HAPPEN. In 2006 the ACT gov’t report reckoned a 1/4 mile dragway would cost around $12.5 million.

Ah yes the demise of the original 1/8 mile Canberra International Dragway back in 1998 occurred as a result of surreptitious dealings involving the sale of Canberra Airport by Carnell and Smyth to Tezza ‘mega rich’ Snow.Tezza told those two clowns that he would buy the Airport for about $45m with the proviso that the dragway disappear within five years and of course they bent over and spread their cheeks and said ram it home Tezza!

Actually I don’t think the two events were linked at all.

IIRC the land on which the dragway is sited is owned by the Department of Defence, and when the lease came up for renewal, Defence were only willing to offer the operator a 2 or 3 year lease. The operator was intending to upgrade the facility, but without the security of a long term lease, saw it quite rightly as a poor investment. As the facilities were in desperate need of upgrading if the dragway were to continue operating, they chose to walk away. I remember distinctly several interviews of the guy who ran it by local news reports, and he said basically this.

I kind of doubt that Terry Snow would have cared one way or the other if the dragway had remained open anyway.

As i recall the operators of the dragway initially signed a ten year lease in 1988 with a further ten year option after the initial period expired.The Defence Dept had no real use for the land as is evident by the fact that there has been absolutely no activity there in the last 14 years.The dragway operators were offered a 5 year only lease at the end of 1998 which they declined given they felt it was merely a token gesture by Carnell who wanted to money from the sale of the airport.As i understand it Snow wanted the option of potentially securing that land for other possible projects he had in mind hence the 5 year offer.Make no mistake Tezza was cracking the whip and he got what he wanted.

You may be right.

I just can’t see what possible use the land could be put to. That entire area is too close to the approach of runway 30 to be of any use for any development project due to height restriction and noise impact issues I would have thought. That may explain why nothing else has ever gone in there since.

And I can’t see DoD rolling over just because Terry Snow & Kate Carnell asked them nicely…

Now that you mention runway 30,which i believe is the smaller one that runs almost parallel to the old dragway approx 100 metres apart,i do recall that there was concern by some that pilots using that runway could potentially confuse it with the dragstrip. I also suspect that Snow wanted to keep his options open ie. possibly extending that runway with Defence approval and there was also talk of potentially using that area for a VFT down the track.In any case it was fairly clear to me that Snow’s attitude was the dragway had to go if he was buying the airport.

Okay, this is really annoying me and I can’t keep quiet any longer. I really need to point out one vital piece of information that renders some of the arguments here completely incorrect. It has also been pointed out in previous discussions about the airport.

Kate Carnell did not sell Canberra Airport as it was not hers to sell and more importantly it cannot be sold only leased. All Federal Airports are owned by the Commonwealth Government and were managed by the Federal Airports Corporation. In 1998 the Federales decided to shut down FAC and the airports were leased out on 50 year leases with a 49 year option.

RadioVK said :

bundah said :

RadioVK said :

bundah said :

farnarkler said :

Unfortunately a Canberra dragway is going the same way as the light rail; IT WON’T HAPPEN. In 2006 the ACT gov’t report reckoned a 1/4 mile dragway would cost around $12.5 million.

Ah yes the demise of the original 1/8 mile Canberra International Dragway back in 1998 occurred as a result of surreptitious dealings involving the sale of Canberra Airport by Carnell and Smyth to Tezza ‘mega rich’ Snow.Tezza told those two clowns that he would buy the Airport for about $45m with the proviso that the dragway disappear within five years and of course they bent over and spread their cheeks and said ram it home Tezza!

Actually I don’t think the two events were linked at all.

IIRC the land on which the dragway is sited is owned by the Department of Defence, and when the lease came up for renewal, Defence were only willing to offer the operator a 2 or 3 year lease. The operator was intending to upgrade the facility, but without the security of a long term lease, saw it quite rightly as a poor investment. As the facilities were in desperate need of upgrading if the dragway were to continue operating, they chose to walk away. I remember distinctly several interviews of the guy who ran it by local news reports, and he said basically this.

I kind of doubt that Terry Snow would have cared one way or the other if the dragway had remained open anyway.

As i recall the operators of the dragway initially signed a ten year lease in 1988 with a further ten year option after the initial period expired.The Defence Dept had no real use for the land as is evident by the fact that there has been absolutely no activity there in the last 14 years.The dragway operators were offered a 5 year only lease at the end of 1998 which they declined given they felt it was merely a token gesture by Carnell who wanted to money from the sale of the airport.As i understand it Snow wanted the option of potentially securing that land for other possible projects he had in mind hence the 5 year offer.Make no mistake Tezza was cracking the whip and he got what he wanted.

You may be right.

I just can’t see what possible use the land could be put to. That entire area is too close to the approach of runway 30 to be of any use for any development project due to height restriction and noise impact issues I would have thought. That may explain why nothing else has ever gone in there since.

And I can’t see DoD rolling over just because Terry Snow & Kate Carnell asked them nicely…

Now that you mention runway 30,which i believe is the smaller one that runs almost parallel to the old dragway approx 100 metres apart,i do recall that there was concern by some that pilots using that runway could potentially confuse it with the dragstrip. I also suspect that Snow wanted to keep his options open ie. possibly extending that runway with Defence approval and there was also talk of potentially using that area for a VFT down the track.In any case it was fairly clear to me that Snow’s attitude was the dragway had to go if he was buying the airport.

VYBerlinaV8_is_back8:25 am 09 Aug 12

vg said :

“Burnouts are part of the culture, dont like it? get f###ed and go watch some ACA or TT propaganda on hoons to make yourself feel better “

Hello Apoc. My cultural background is Anglo-Saxon, primarily the north of England with some Irish thrown in. Punching nobs in the mouth is part of our culture.

What’s your address…..or don’t like it???

This isn’t meant to be a put-down, but when I saw your post I accidentally read it as “putting nobs in the mouth”.

(I’m off to call 1300655506).

bundah said :

RadioVK said :

bundah said :

farnarkler said :

Unfortunately a Canberra dragway is going the same way as the light rail; IT WON’T HAPPEN. In 2006 the ACT gov’t report reckoned a 1/4 mile dragway would cost around $12.5 million.

Ah yes the demise of the original 1/8 mile Canberra International Dragway back in 1998 occurred as a result of surreptitious dealings involving the sale of Canberra Airport by Carnell and Smyth to Tezza ‘mega rich’ Snow.Tezza told those two clowns that he would buy the Airport for about $45m with the proviso that the dragway disappear within five years and of course they bent over and spread their cheeks and said ram it home Tezza!

Actually I don’t think the two events were linked at all.

IIRC the land on which the dragway is sited is owned by the Department of Defence, and when the lease came up for renewal, Defence were only willing to offer the operator a 2 or 3 year lease. The operator was intending to upgrade the facility, but without the security of a long term lease, saw it quite rightly as a poor investment. As the facilities were in desperate need of upgrading if the dragway were to continue operating, they chose to walk away. I remember distinctly several interviews of the guy who ran it by local news reports, and he said basically this.

I kind of doubt that Terry Snow would have cared one way or the other if the dragway had remained open anyway.

As i recall the operators of the dragway initially signed a ten year lease in 1988 with a further ten year option after the initial period expired.The Defence Dept had no real use for the land as is evident by the fact that there has been absolutely no activity there in the last 14 years.The dragway operators were offered a 5 year only lease at the end of 1998 which they declined given they felt it was merely a token gesture by Carnell who wanted to money from the sale of the airport.As i understand it Snow wanted the option of potentially securing that land for other possible projects he had in mind hence the 5 year offer.Make no mistake Tezza was cracking the whip and he got what he wanted.

You may be right.

I just can’t see what possible use the land could be put to. That entire area is too close to the approach of runway 30 to be of any use for any development project due to height restriction and noise impact issues I would have thought. That may explain why nothing else has ever gone in there since.

And I can’t see DoD rolling over just because Terry Snow & Kate Carnell asked them nicely…

“Burnouts are part of the culture, dont like it? get f###ed and go watch some ACA or TT propaganda on hoons to make yourself feel better “

Hello Apoc. My cultural background is Anglo-Saxon, primarily the north of England with some Irish thrown in. Punching nobs in the mouth is part of our culture.

What’s your address…..or don’t like it???

Apoc said :

Unfortunately buying a block of land and building a private one presents its own challenges, but maybe some day someone will do it, only to get shut down by the council due to rural neighborhood/community issues.

After speaking with the managers of both Wakefield Park and Marulan DTC, its very clear that it only takes a small minority who can hear or see anything motoring related to complain and lobby against it, a private or public burnout pad would no doubt experience similar issues.

You mean, affected residents object to the noise of the facility? Why is it so hard for you to understand that people have an actual right to object to loud, unpleasant noise affecting their homes?

VYBerlinaV8_is_back said :

Wraith said :

VYBerlinaV8_is_back said :

Wraith said :

Pitchka said :

Awesome.. Ive also just had my handbreak cable tightened.. No more half asses hand break turns….

Cool, make sure you adjust your kaboomata valve as well, if it isn’t, it could get messy and you will lose “cred”.

I thought kaboomata was a type of olive.

You’re hanging around in the wrong circles man

Oooooooooooooooooooooooh! You didn’t put a full stop at the end!

I was being a vigilante!

VYBerlinaV8_is_back3:11 pm 08 Aug 12

Wraith said :

VYBerlinaV8_is_back said :

Wraith said :

Pitchka said :

Awesome.. Ive also just had my handbreak cable tightened.. No more half asses hand break turns….

Cool, make sure you adjust your kaboomata valve as well, if it isn’t, it could get messy and you will lose “cred”.

I thought kaboomata was a type of olive.

You’re hanging around in the wrong circles man

Oooooooooooooooooooooooh! You didn’t put a full stop at the end!

VYBerlinaV8_is_back said :

Wraith said :

Pitchka said :

Awesome.. Ive also just had my handbreak cable tightened.. No more half asses hand break turns….

Cool, make sure you adjust your kaboomata valve as well, if it isn’t, it could get messy and you will lose “cred”.

I thought kaboomata was a type of olive.

You’re hanging around in the wrong circles man

VYBerlinaV8_is_back2:45 pm 08 Aug 12

Wraith said :

Pitchka said :

Awesome.. Ive also just had my handbreak cable tightened.. No more half asses hand break turns….

Cool, make sure you adjust your kaboomata valve as well, if it isn’t, it could get messy and you will lose “cred”.

I thought kaboomata was a type of olive.

VYBerlinaV8_is_back said :

Pitchka said :

I want to join this awesome organisation, but my turbo Exa does not have a front mount intercooler, or a blow off valve with pigeon flutter. I can however go from 1st to third without using the clutch pedal..

I only race for pink slips… Oh, and upon joining, i become the new president of this great organisation.

Pitchka – love your username, how the hell did that get through our censors?!

If you get one of those red LED panels to make your car look like K.I.T.T. then you’ll be allowed in for sure!

Good thing JB doesn’t know croatian coz otherwise he might have to change it to kurac!

Pitchka said :

Pfft, adjusted that ages ago… All done dude..

I also changes the front lights with my tail lights, makes it look like im going super fast in reverse!

That is awesome, I have never thought of that one.

I’m going to try that one on my superfly gemini. We should race.

Pfft, adjusted that ages ago… All done dude..

I also changes the front lights with my tail lights, makes it look like im going super fast in reverse!

Pitchka said :

Awesome.. Ive also just had my handbreak cable tightened.. No more half asses hand break turns….

Cool, make sure you adjust your kaboomata valve as well, if it isn’t, it could get messy and you will lose “cred”.

Awesome.. Ive also just had my handbreak cable tightened.. No more half asses hand break turns….

Pitchka said :

VYBerlinaV8_is_back said :

Pitchka said :

I want to join this awesome organisation, but my turbo Exa does not have a front mount intercooler, or a blow off valve with pigeon flutter. I can however go from 1st to third without using the clutch pedal..

I only race for pink slips… Oh, and upon joining, i become the new president of this great organisation.

Pitchka – love your username, how the hell did that get through our censors?!

If you get one of those red LED panels to make your car look like K.I.T.T. then you’ll be allowed in for sure!

I might look into it.. eBay? I also have 13′ rims, too big?

Nah, its all good if they are spinners………and have neon lights in the valves.

VYBerlinaV8_is_back said :

Pitchka said :

I want to join this awesome organisation, but my turbo Exa does not have a front mount intercooler, or a blow off valve with pigeon flutter. I can however go from 1st to third without using the clutch pedal..

I only race for pink slips… Oh, and upon joining, i become the new president of this great organisation.

Pitchka – love your username, how the hell did that get through our censors?!

If you get one of those red LED panels to make your car look like K.I.T.T. then you’ll be allowed in for sure!

I might look into it.. eBay? I also have 13′ rims, too big?

VYBerlinaV8_is_back said :

Apoc said :

The best RH can do is encourage people to NOT do it within the community and take it outside of the metro areas, some of us would peg a brick through the window of a car doing a burnout in an urban street around our kids, its the wrong place to do it!

If that’s the best you can do, then your best isn’t good enough.

They are trying, they only live their life at a quarter mile at a time remember…….

VYBerlinaV8_is_back1:03 pm 08 Aug 12

Pitchka said :

I want to join this awesome organisation, but my turbo Exa does not have a front mount intercooler, or a blow off valve with pigeon flutter. I can however go from 1st to third without using the clutch pedal..

I only race for pink slips… Oh, and upon joining, i become the new president of this great organisation.

Pitchka – love your username, how the hell did that get through our censors?!

If you get one of those red LED panels to make your car look like K.I.T.T. then you’ll be allowed in for sure!

I want to join this awesome organisation, but my turbo Exa does not have a front mount intercooler, or a blow off valve with pigeon flutter. I can however go from 1st to third without using the clutch pedal..

I only race for pink slips… Oh, and upon joining, i become the new president of this great organisation.

VYBerlinaV8_is_back11:13 am 08 Aug 12

Apoc said :

The best RH can do is encourage people to NOT do it within the community and take it outside of the metro areas, some of us would peg a brick through the window of a car doing a burnout in an urban street around our kids, its the wrong place to do it!

If that’s the best you can do, then your best isn’t good enough.

Mav said :

Believe me I am no fan of illegal road user activities, especially people involved in hoonish behaviour. I also have not been to the speedway located on Pialligo Rd but for those that have been there, is there enough room for a burnout pad as described by Apoc? If so then maybe some consultation with the speedway owners might present a useful avenue to pursue this activity in a manner which would benefit everyone.

The problem with the whole burnout pad at the speedway thing is timing. The speedway, motocross track and hill climb all run under very strict rules governing noise and timing of events. From memory Rushhour meets on Thursday nights, and I do not see their members wanting to meet on Saturdays at 10am for a bit of burnout action so it is likely that the facility would be a waste of time.

colourful sydney racing identity9:03 am 08 Aug 12

Interesting that Apoc cannot answer one simple question – does he/she support members of rushhour committing illegal acts?

Believe me I am no fan of illegal road user activities, especially people involved in hoonish behaviour. I also have not been to the speedway located on Pialligo Rd but for those that have been there, is there enough room for a burnout pad as described by Apoc? If so then maybe some consultation with the speedway owners might present a useful avenue to pursue this activity in a manner which would benefit everyone.

RadioVK said :

bundah said :

farnarkler said :

Unfortunately a Canberra dragway is going the same way as the light rail; IT WON’T HAPPEN. In 2006 the ACT gov’t report reckoned a 1/4 mile dragway would cost around $12.5 million.

Ah yes the demise of the original 1/8 mile Canberra International Dragway back in 1998 occurred as a result of surreptitious dealings involving the sale of Canberra Airport by Carnell and Smyth to Tezza ‘mega rich’ Snow.Tezza told those two clowns that he would buy the Airport for about $45m with the proviso that the dragway disappear within five years and of course they bent over and spread their cheeks and said ram it home Tezza!

Actually I don’t think the two events were linked at all.

IIRC the land on which the dragway is sited is owned by the Department of Defence, and when the lease came up for renewal, Defence were only willing to offer the operator a 2 or 3 year lease. The operator was intending to upgrade the facility, but without the security of a long term lease, saw it quite rightly as a poor investment. As the facilities were in desperate need of upgrading if the dragway were to continue operating, they chose to walk away. I remember distinctly several interviews of the guy who ran it by local news reports, and he said basically this.

I kind of doubt that Terry Snow would have cared one way or the other if the dragway had remained open anyway.

As i recall the operators of the dragway initially signed a ten year lease in 1988 with a further ten year option after the initial period expired.The Defence Dept had no real use for the land as is evident by the fact that there has been absolutely no activity there in the last 14 years.The dragway operators were offered a 5 year only lease at the end of 1998 which they declined given they felt it was merely a token gesture by Carnell who wanted to money from the sale of the airport.As i understand it Snow wanted the option of potentially securing that land for other possible projects he had in mind hence the 5 year offer.Make no mistake Tezza was cracking the whip and he got what he wanted.

19 year old Kimberley Conna in Sydney would probably be saddened if she could see this video right now. She might say “Don’t do that”. Unfortunately she can’t because she’s dead. According to witnesses, her and a friend were having a bit of a drag race this afternoon, and she and her friend put both their cars into a light pole at high speed. The cars burst into pieces and caught fire respectively.

Kimberley was 6 months pregnant when she died this afternoon, so there’s an added burden for the survivors to carry.

Kimberley’s boyfriend Kyle was in the car with her. He has massive head injuries and is not expected to survive. Not surprising, given the state of the vehicles after impact.

By a terrible coincidence, Kyle’s dad happened on the scene, and got out to help as a man would, not realising for a while that his son was in one of the mangled wrecks. The Daily Tele, with stunningly poetic elegance, described this terrible event as “A Sad Twist”. I can’t imagine the horror of coming upon one of my sons under these circumstances.

Apoc and friends, that’s the reality of what happens when things turn pear-shaped at speed. Think on it for a while and maybe reconsider the next time you feel the urge to press hard on that pedal. Check out the pictures of Kimberly and Kyle together when she was alive, and the stinking burnt out pile of crap she died in. It’s not pretty or glamorous. Remember that you are not bulletproof. This could happen to you.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/street-racing-claims-as-teen-dies-in-fiery-crash/story-e6freuy9-1226444260402

Apoc said :

Punishing, fining, impounding cars, sentencing drivers is not educating the young blokes who want to enjoy a good high powered motorvehicle –

What you wrote is so very wrong.

“Young blokes” are not mature enough to “enjoy” “good high powered” motor vehicles. Thus, “young blokes” continue to kill and permanently disable themselves and their friends in and on ALL types of vehicles more than any other group of drivers on the roads in Australia. So, let’s put automatic machine guns in their hands when they have proven they are only emotionally mature enough to handle a weapon made out of lego.

poetix said :

Apoc said :

Apologies grammar nazi’s!

That would make a great bumper sticker.

Complete with apostrophe? Now that would be vacuous.

Hopefully one day – possibly with the help/collaboration with the ACT speedway and support from the community for a public burnout pad, a legal venue for casual and professional burnouts will become a reality. Until then, RH will go through the odd hiatus here and there, but will always be around to some degree!

Unfortunately buying a block of land and building a private one presents its own challenges, but maybe some day someone will do it, only to get shut down by the council due to rural neighborhood/community issues.

After speaking with the managers of both Wakefield Park and Marulan DTC, its very clear that it only takes a small minority who can hear or see anything motoring related to complain and lobby against it, a private or public burnout pad would no doubt experience similar issues.

bundah said :

farnarkler said :

Unfortunately a Canberra dragway is going the same way as the light rail; IT WON’T HAPPEN. In 2006 the ACT gov’t report reckoned a 1/4 mile dragway would cost around $12.5 million.

Ah yes the demise of the original 1/8 mile Canberra International Dragway back in 1998 occurred as a result of surreptitious dealings involving the sale of Canberra Airport by Carnell and Smyth to Tezza ‘mega rich’ Snow.Tezza told those two clowns that he would buy the Airport for about $45m with the proviso that the dragway disappear within five years and of course they bent over and spread their cheeks and said ram it home Tezza!

Actually I don’t think the two events were linked at all.

IIRC the land on which the dragway is sited is owned by the Department of Defence, and when the lease came up for renewal, Defence were only willing to offer the operator a 2 or 3 year lease. The operator was intending to upgrade the facility, but without the security of a long term lease, saw it quite rightly as a poor investment. As the facilities were in desperate need of upgrading if the dragway were to continue operating, they chose to walk away. I remember distinctly several interviews of the guy who ran it by local news reports, and he said basically this.

I kind of doubt that Terry Snow would have cared one way or the other if the dragway had remained open anyway.

Apoc said :

The best RH can do is encourage people to NOT do it within the community and take it outside of the metro areas, some of us would peg a brick through the window of a car doing a burnout in an urban street around our kids, its the wrong place to do it!

Wrong.

The best RH could do would be to report any person doing a burnout on any public street and then go to court and give evidence against that person. Any public street is the wrong place to do it. Urban or otherwise, it’s all part of the community.

What RH actually does is encourage people to break the law.

poetix said :

Apoc said :

Apologies grammar nazi’s!

That would make a great bumper sticker.

I think it would be even better if it went

Apologise Grammar Nazi’s

(and you could go overboard and say Grammer).

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd4:51 pm 07 Aug 12

Apoc said :

Apologies grammar nazi’s!, outlaw is a bit extreme, plus RH is not a gang. perhaps “vindicate” would be more appropriate, we aim for the vindication of legal burnouts at a controlled facility in the ACT?

The laws were written for interpretation, the police interpret and enforce the law.
If it requires sentencing it is sent on to the courts via summons for further interpretation and judgement. RH and police go hand in hand, if you want to do burnouts and never worry about police: dont come to RH! We encourage our members to cooperate with police and the police are doing their job just fine.

10 years ago a burnout was fined with a negligent driving charge, now it is a summons to court, 3 month impound, 3 month loss of license, plus at the very minimum $600 in fines upwards to around $2000 i think.. no opportunity to apply for a workers license – you get off lighter on drink driving!! plus you can get a workers license, even tho burnouts kill tyres and drink drivers kill people – show me some road death stats due to burnouts?

The best RH can do is encourage people to NOT do it within the community and take it outside of the metro areas, some of us would peg a brick through the window of a car doing a burnout in an urban street around our kids, its the wrong place to do it!

I’d do more than peg a brick. Do one near my girls and the car won’t be driven again.

Apoc said :

Apologies grammar nazi’s!

That would make a great bumper sticker.

I had the pleasure of one of these RH dunces moving in across the road from me. I love when he starts his extremely loud suby and revs the arse out of it at 6:15 every morning to “warm it up”. I then like it when his turbo goes off and sets all the dogs in the street off. Truly the best way to wake up and I thank him for the opportunity to experience this every weekday morning.

colourful sydney racing identity4:07 pm 07 Aug 12

Apoc said :

Apologies grammar nazi’s!, outlaw is a bit extreme, plus RH is not a gang. perhaps “vindicate” would be more appropriate, we aim for the vindication of legal burnouts at a controlled facility in the ACT?

Cannot help myself.

This is just gold, for so many reasons.

farnarkler said :

bundah many years ago it was a full 1/4 mile. Not good enough for top fuel but good enough for the garage built cars run by guys like Graham Silk and Mick Kent. Surely that area wasn’t sold was it??

Indeed the original incarnation was 1/4 mile but very narrow and bumpy as i recall so they swapped ends and widened it and turned it into a sanctioned 1/8 mile track. The land the old dragway sits on is still as far as i know owned by defence.Ah yes nothing quite like been screwed by bureaucracy.

colourful sydney racing identity4:05 pm 07 Aug 12

Apoc said :

Apologies grammar nazi’s!, outlaw is a bit extreme, plus RH is not a gang. perhaps “vindicate” would be more appropriate, we aim for the vindication of legal burnouts at a controlled facility in the ACT?

The laws were written for interpretation, the police interpret and enforce the law.
If it requires sentencing it is sent on to the courts via summons for further interpretation and judgement. RH and police go hand in hand, if you want to do burnouts and never worry about police: dont come to RH! We encourage our members to cooperate with police and the police are doing their job just fine.

10 years ago a burnout was fined with a negligent driving charge, now it is a summons to court, 3 month impound, 3 month loss of license, plus at the very minimum $600 in fines upwards to around $2000 i think.. no opportunity to apply for a workers license – you get off lighter on drink driving!! plus you can get a workers license, even tho burnouts kill tyres and drink drivers kill people – show me some road death stats due to burnouts?

The best RH can do is encourage people to NOT do it within the community and take it outside of the metro areas, some of us would peg a brick through the window of a car doing a burnout in an urban street around our kids, its the wrong place to do it!

Whilst it would be fun to disect your first paragraph, I won’t as it would probably be lost on you.

In all seriousness, do you support members of your ‘vindication’ group/gang/club committing illegal acts?

Apologies grammar nazi’s!, outlaw is a bit extreme, plus RH is not a gang. perhaps “vindicate” would be more appropriate, we aim for the vindication of legal burnouts at a controlled facility in the ACT?

The laws were written for interpretation, the police interpret and enforce the law.
If it requires sentencing it is sent on to the courts via summons for further interpretation and judgement. RH and police go hand in hand, if you want to do burnouts and never worry about police: dont come to RH! We encourage our members to cooperate with police and the police are doing their job just fine.

10 years ago a burnout was fined with a negligent driving charge, now it is a summons to court, 3 month impound, 3 month loss of license, plus at the very minimum $600 in fines upwards to around $2000 i think.. no opportunity to apply for a workers license – you get off lighter on drink driving!! plus you can get a workers license, even tho burnouts kill tyres and drink drivers kill people – show me some road death stats due to burnouts?

The best RH can do is encourage people to NOT do it within the community and take it outside of the metro areas, some of us would peg a brick through the window of a car doing a burnout in an urban street around our kids, its the wrong place to do it!

bundah many years ago it was a full 1/4 mile. Not good enough for top fuel but good enough for the garage built cars run by guys like Graham Silk and Mick Kent. Surely that area wasn’t sold was it??

EvanJames said :

Maybe you should get jobs, earn money, save it up, pool it, and buy a 100 acre paddock out past Goulburn where land gets cheaper, and run your own burnouts, drag racing, drifting and have a great time. Radical, yeah I know.

Your radical idea has alot of merit.

This behaviour has no place on public roads. Take it somewhere private, where people understand their insurance policies are null and void, and aybe it will reduce the incidence of risk the the public in this way.

farnarkler said :

Unfortunately a Canberra dragway is going the same way as the light rail; IT WON’T HAPPEN. In 2006 the ACT gov’t report reckoned a 1/4 mile dragway would cost around $12.5 million.

Ah yes the demise of the original 1/8 mile Canberra International Dragway back in 1998 occurred as a result of surreptitious dealings involving the sale of Canberra Airport by Carnell and Smyth to Tezza ‘mega rich’ Snow.Tezza told those two clowns that he would buy the Airport for about $45m with the proviso that the dragway disappear within five years and of course they bent over and spread their cheeks and said ram it home Tezza!

colourful sydney racing identity said :

StumpyPete said :

Vigilante group? Exactly what laws are you enforcing Mr APOC?

I think Mr APOC has ‘vigilante” confused with ‘outlaw’…

Vigilantes are outlaws. They “enforce” the law selectively and incorrectly without any legal imprimatur. Thus they are as much criminals as their victims are

Apoc said :

. Burnouts on the other hand – we have no-where legal to do it, half the reason the laws are so harsh is because the conservative majority disagree with the whole smoke and noise thing – so “it must be stopped” right?, but on the realist side of the fence: if they are going to happen its best they happen away from the suburbs where no one can whinge.

– however a legal burnout pad (not the joke sutton skid pan that doesnt allow burnouts) –

Residents not wanting that godawful racket near their homes are not the “conservative majority”, they’re just people who don’t want the mini-Summernats outside their loungerooms and bedrooms every night.

I’ll type this slowly. People who want peace and quiet in their homes are not unreasonable or fascist, they’re normal.

Maybe you should get jobs, earn money, save it up, pool it, and buy a 100 acre paddock out past Goulburn where land gets cheaper, and run your own burnouts, drag racing, drifting and have a great time. Radical, yeah I know.

colourful sydney racing identity3:08 pm 07 Aug 12

Henry82 said :

It’s okay guys, if they’re caught they’ll probably get a slap on the wrist from the police

Which is why we need to set up a vigilante group…

It’s okay guys, if they’re caught they’ll probably get a slap on the wrist from the police

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd3:01 pm 07 Aug 12

colourful sydney racing identity said :

StumpyPete said :

Vigilante group? Exactly what laws are you enforcing Mr APOC?

I think Mr APOC has ‘vigilante” confused with ‘outlaw’…

haha classic

colourful sydney racing identity2:31 pm 07 Aug 12

StumpyPete said :

Vigilante group? Exactly what laws are you enforcing Mr APOC?

I think Mr APOC has ‘vigilante” confused with ‘outlaw’…

Vigilante group? Exactly what laws are you enforcing Mr APOC?

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd1:24 pm 07 Aug 12

lolololol a vigilante group??????

Unfortunately a Canberra dragway is going the same way as the light rail; IT WON’T HAPPEN. In 2006 the ACT gov’t report reckoned a 1/4 mile dragway would cost around $12.5 million.

colourful sydney racing identity12:15 pm 07 Aug 12

Apoc said :

RushhouR is not a lobbyist group, it is a vigilante group

You are doing so well at winning people over with comments like this.

Tell me, do you support members of your organisation breaking the law?

farnarkler said :

Apoc, I reckon the Lexus was probably a turbo Aristo. Do you ever take your club cars to Wakefield Park near Goulburn? No burnout pan but you can drive your cars as fast as you like around the circuit without having to have a rollbar.

We have done several track days at both Wakefield Park and Marulan DTC from 2006 to this year – usually as a casual drift/circuit day, as neither track would allow a casual burnout event – except for the yearly burnout warriors event run by Sydney based burnout organizer “Simbad” – speaking of events, go look at the NICU ward at canberra hospital one day 😉 RH has raised over 25k in the past 4 or 5 years for charity, not for any significant media attention, but simply because we can.

Sydneys Dragway run a weekly Wednesday night drag/burnout event where anyone can bring a helmet along and enter, pity its a 4 hour drive away..

A Dragway would be great for Canberra.. but for RH that is only a sideline support thing, all we would like is a pretty simple burnout pad, or at least allowance to use either A) the sutton skidpan for burnouts or B) the HUGE police driver training facility at Majura, what a waste of useful tax funded space that is! however RushhouR is not a lobbyist group, it is a vigilante group and we all know how hard the motorist party and associates worked towards a dragway – why waste our time going down the same path to a bureaucratic dead-end?

Damn, was hoping the GS300 would walk the S15… ah well.

colourful sydney racing identity11:38 am 07 Aug 12

Apoc said :

Burnouts are part of the culture, dont like it? get f###ed

*gosh* what a compelling argument, if someone doesn’t condone your illegal activity they can ‘get f###ed’.

Apoc, I reckon the Lexus was probably a turbo Aristo. Do you ever take your club cars to Wakefield Park near Goulburn? No burnout pan but you can drive your cars as fast as you like around the circuit without having to have a rollbar.

colourful sydney racing identity11:26 am 07 Aug 12

Someone put the beer in the fridge and put some popcorn on the stove while we wait for the usual apologists for this group, that promotes criminal behaviour, to post about how they have done ‘nufink wrong’ and we should pay for them to have a dragway so they can perform these acts of stupidity legally.

Apoc from RH here – just want to confirm, I have never seen either of these cars (the lexus or the 200SX) at RushhouR, we do not organize street/drag racing – that kills people! lets say if you were helping organize a vigilante group of “hoons” as you call them, could you sleep at night knowing someone died during a street racing event you organized? no? neither could we. Burnouts on the other hand – we have no-where legal to do it, half the reason the laws are so harsh is because the conservative majority disagree with the whole smoke and noise thing – so “it must be stopped” right?, but on the realist side of the fence: if they are going to happen its best they happen away from the suburbs where no one can whinge.

Burnouts are part of the culture, dont like it? get f###ed and go watch some ACA or TT propaganda on hoons to make yourself feel better 🙂

You can label a whole group based on what you see 1 person do, RH cant control every member, but the least we could do is encourage people not to do things that will get themselves or others killed,

Punishing, fining, impounding cars, sentencing drivers is not educating the young blokes who want to enjoy a good high powered motorvehicle – however a legal burnout pad (not the joke sutton skid pan that doesnt allow burnouts) will at least give the police the power to say “you had an option, but you chose to do it on a public road so here is your summons”.. not “you’re a bad egg, heres a whole bunch of fines, a defect, a summons and we’re taking your car so you cant work, next time just drink drive and get off lighter”

RH is in a temporary hiatus, but we’re still around, 11 years strong

Yup, wankers, putting others lives at risk or taking up bed space in hospitals themselves when it all goes wrong.

My best friend is permanently brain damaged because of a wanker driving a car too fast thinking he was invincible – his actions bounced my friends car into an embankment after meerly clipping her car. He walked away intact, my friend was formerly young, stunning and vivacious – she was in a coma for three months, had to learn to walk and speak again and will never lead a normal life again. The person responsible didn’t apolgise and showed no remorse.

So RushhouR, reflect on that before you get in a car and think what you are doing is harmless and that you can handle it …

Children with licences and no idea.

Hmmm was that meant to be exciting? FAIL.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd11:09 am 07 Aug 12

yar, its the video info, so by the wording, seems like the poster either doesnt like rushhour, or is celebrating them being bell ends and also contradicting what their spokespeople often say(besides evidence to the contrary)

That’s surely people from rushhour, just as that guy on the motorcycle is clearly a member of the Comancheros or the Rebels… Just because someone rides a bike doesn’t mean they are an outlaw bikie, just as someone driving a car doesn’t make them part of a car group

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd10:53 am 07 Aug 12

p1 said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

How do you know they are members of rushhour?

I kind of assumed from the nature of the video, that it had been taken intentionally by someone associated with the “drivers”.

Description in italics seems to be the videos title. doesnt sound like they are happy with them.

unless jb forgot to close his tag and that last line is his thoughts?

I’m normally very careful with my quotes.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

How do you know they are members of rushhour?

I kind of assumed from the nature of the video, that it had been taken intentionally by someone associated with the “drivers”.

VYBerlinaV8_is_back10:27 am 07 Aug 12

Duffbowl said :

So, basically, they’re d***heads?

When they do it on public roads? Why yes, yes they are.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd10:21 am 07 Aug 12

i though rushhour never did drag racing or burnouts in public roads lolol

having said that, and knowing its a lie as i have witnessed it on a few ocasions in my daily travels, but i dont see the rushhour sticker on either car? Something they normaqlly wear with pride to make up for their tiny lil dongers.
How do you know they are members of rushhour?

Who said Canberra Dragway was closed?

RushhouR is the ‘underground’ car club of Canberra.

They are about as underground as Justin Bieber.

Was the bike stuck in second?

So, basically, they’re d***heads?

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