23 November 2007

Gary's seat an "insurance policy"

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Gary Humphries is fighting for his seat, saying we should vote for him since Labor will probably win government, so keeping the Libs in control of the Senate will be an “insurance policy”.

Funny, he didn’t seem too concerned about having an insurance policy in the Senate over the last 3 years, when the Coalition had control of both houses.

He must be the only politician campaigning on the platform of the other guys winning.

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Well, according to Nick Minchin, Humph has hung on. which means the Liberals will hang on to the senate until the new senators elected tonight take their seats in June. See if Humph had lost, his vanquisher would have taken his/her seat immediatley, unlocking the Lib. hold on the Senate.

I’ve never voted lib before, but Humphries was definitely the most impressive on Stateline tonight. He’ll get my vote, the prospect of Kerrie Tucker getting in fills me with horror.

Do people actually realise what they’re voting for when they decide to put in a vote for Kerrie, and what it will potentially mean for this town? What does she stand for? More action on climate change. Fair enough. But I don’t think the Greens can claim the high ground on that one any more. Everyone’s trying to be greener in the me too debate. Kerrie doesn’t want large shopping centres. But look around next time you’re in one. Everyone else is there too. Surely its better for people to be spending their bucks here than all in Sydney like they used to. Kerrie doesn’t want development in the Molonglo Valley. What about affordable housing? What about providing houses close to the city so people can actually get on a bus when they want to. And as for the insurance policy argument – what’s good for the goose is good for the gander. I hadn’t though about Gaz being an insurance policy before, but the argument he ran tonight works for me.

I get regular letters from Bob McM offering to meet at local shops to discuss any issues I have. I never go, but that’s not his fault. I think he’s probably pretty good too.

And I don’t really see what Gary H has done for Cnaberra. He stood up for Screen Sound, but they were still merged with the AFI and went downhill (and weren’t allowed to talk publically about it.)

Humphries has to go, either as collateral damage and a sacrifice to the need to restore some balance to the Senate or because he is useless. Either will do me, as would the appalling way he cut in to Lundy’s attempts to answer on Stateline. Put Humphries Last!

As to the overall result, who knows? The Coalition, and especially the PM, have diminished this country with every day in office. Not sure the other mob would be much better, but they might be and so they get a higher spot on my ballot paper. This is despite Ellis being one of the most ordinaire candidates imaginable – having had some dealings with McMullan, I think he’s smart and will be useful if they form government.

Humphries you twa..twit.

If you hold balance of power, all you will do is what the party machine tells you to do. You won’t have a concience. You wont support the people of Canberra. A couple of back room policies promulgated by a couple of interest groups will tell you what to do.

Don’t insult my intelligence.

Thanks for the info Thumper. That’s right, Bob was Minister for Trade. I could have been wrong stating he was a cabinet minister, as I’m not sure Trade is quite that distinguished, and I couldn’t be arsed doing the research right now.

Yes, the bearded clamb (sorry, no offence to female genitalia, as they’re beautiful) has had quite a career locally, but he could be in deep poo tomorrow.

It’s a disgrace that Humphries is struggling to hold his seat. If it was Carnell she would have walked it in. I am in small business and Humphries has done nothing to assist his ‘natural’ constituency.

Perhaps time to throw him out and get a better Liberal up next time.

v_man_returns2:27 pm 23 Nov 07

I really like Humph, and would like to see him stay.

It’s actually spelled McMullan, not McMullen. He was a cabinet minister in the Keating government, held several portfolios. I’m sure he does a lot, but doesn’t seek the public profile the same way Humprhies does.

I saw a clip on last night’s news about a radio debate between him, Tucker and Lundy. It was appalling listening to him vigorously defend that bogus liberal party leaflet dropped in our letter boxes last weekend. You know, the green one designed to look like an ALP leaflet bagging the greens, calling them extremists, with Lindsay Tanner’s photo on the back, authorised by some bloke who happens to be the president of the Liberal Party in the ACT. Although I’d never vote for Humphries, up until then I thought he had at least a shred of credibility.

regularbrowse1:50 pm 23 Nov 07

This is a bit off topic … But I was glad to hear the ban on TV political had started … but getting sick of all the political advertisements on line. Even on RiotACT. (Yes, I know you are running a business.) Hope you are getting lots of advertising dollars to cover the lean times post-election.

We could try a write-in campaign regularbrowse – SGS for the Senate.

regularbrowse1:44 pm 23 Nov 07

Does this mean all the major parties (ALP, Democrats, Greens and now the Libs) are campaigning for our Senate vote on the basis it will restore balance… ?
Voting for an independent is starting to look more attractive. Just wish there was a strong ‘Andren’ style independent candidate here.

The lie is the marketing type lie (like new improved).

Kerrie Tucker’s marketing pitch was:

“Kerrie Tucker for an independent Senate”

Well – Kerrie Tucker is a partisan politician as the member the Green’s (first “marketing lie” by de-partying the marketing pitch) – ie if you want an independent vote for an independent.

Any third force is not independent of the other two. If lib and labor agree greens are irrelevant. If libs and labor disagree then they are dealt in, but labor knows that they will NEVER vote will the libs – so the greens vote is cheap.

If the greens push their agenda hard they will never get the preferences of labor again – ie they are dependent on labor for their policital future.

So why are they independent? They are just after as much power and a small supporter base will give.

They are not putting themselves forward as a alternative government.

The lie is that Dems, Greens are restoring the balance of power. No, they just want to get into the senate, not restore a balance of power.

Even if I agree, which I don’t, at least no one group would have a majority. It would require at least two of the three parties, whihc would be a plus for democracy.

swissbignose12:57 pm 23 Nov 07

He does have a point though given the Save Our Senate coalition is based on a lie.

What lie is that?

It’s not. The point is that Humphries’ is now campaigning on the point that no party should have control of both houses. He wasn’t complaining when they had it.

Which is doubly bull as if the greens win there still won’t be a majority in the senate (unlike the situation now, which he has no problem with).

‘He wasn’t complaining when they had it.’

However the other parties were, and now when labor/greens look set to take both houses he has every right to do the same. There is no hypocrisy here..

How it is Humphries’s fault that the Coalition has had a majority for the past three years?

It’s not. The point is that Humphries’ is now campaigning on the point that no party should have control of both houses. He wasn’t complaining when they had it.

I think it’s based on “number of appearances in local musicals” 🙂

How do you define “McMullan does nothing” and “Humphries actually does something”? Is that an informed comment, or are you basing it on the number of times you see their mugs on the teev?

You cant be nonconformist if you dont drink coffee12:41 pm 23 Nov 07

I don’t get it. How it is Humphries’s fault that the Coalition has had a majority for the past three years? What was he meant to do, resign when it came out they’d got one?

I totally agree with what he said on ABC yestaerday: if Labor gets up we will need an insurance policy, and a Green who relied soley on Labor preferences to get elected will hardly be the one to do it!

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