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GDE and Jerrabomberra Hilton to blame for road decay?

johnboy 19 September 2006 50

Bill Stefaniak has been out for a drive with Steve Pratt and they’ve put out a media release decrying the ongoing decay of our once fine roads.

Bill and Steve blame a failure to draft a replacement to the five year road plan which ended last year, also the poorly contained costs of the Gungahlin Drive Extension, and finally the money being spent building the new prison (floridly described as the “Jerrabomberra Hilton”), for why there isn’t cash to fix the holed and pitted surfaces of Canberra’s roads.

(These are all good points but as Bill and Steve want to lock more people up wouldn’t it be best to stop paying a fortune to NSW to house them?)

In any event I can’t see it getting better until the car hating cyclists are purged from the ACT’s transport bureaucracy. Increasingly bad roads actually work towards the policy goals of the Stanhope Government as near as I can understand them.

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johnboy johnboy 10:32 am 20 Sep 06

Also UB i’d wager that if Government agencies and corporations stopped lashing hundreds of thousands of dollars around in entertainment themselves and justifying their existence there’d be a bit more money for things people want.

Thumper Thumper 10:26 am 20 Sep 06

So you do advocate that we just leave the current mob to do what they are doing?

I didn’t vote for them, I won’t vote for them in the future. Hopefully they get voted out at the next election. Maybe it will be a case of out of the frying pan, into the fire. Who knows?

I am not a politician and frankly don’t want to be one so you’re argument about ‘stepping up and doing better’ is frankly laughable, in fact quite contempable and in line with Stanhope’s arrogant stance to any criticism he receives.

Maybe if we didn’t have monies allocated to useless gaols that will be filled to capacity in a few years, to arboretums that no-one wants, to dinky bike lanes, to pie in the sky ideals, and to dodgy development plans, we wouldn’t have to worry so much.

When the current government realises that they are a very minor player in national politics and get back to their core responsibilities such as health, reducation, roads, rates and rubbish, then we possibly won’t see a reduction in essential services.

The roads are getting worse. Services are getting worse.

The blame is squarely at the feet of the incumbent government.

This cannot be disputed in anyway.

johnboy johnboy 10:21 am 20 Sep 06

hey, we hardly ever do health scandals for exactly he reasons you enumerate.

frankly i have little faith in our democratic system which is why i haven’t tried to start a new party.

I don’t want to end up like pauline hanson.

Unbeliever Unbeliever 10:06 am 20 Sep 06

I agree – managing our ‘urban services’ is a core responsibility of the elected government, operative word there being elected. You don’t like what they’re doing, then step up and do better. I’m all for participative democracy – don’t like what the government is doing? Then let the masses step up and vote them out. Better yet, let those who are really incensed (there seems to be plenty in the RiotACT ranks) provide alternate and competent candidates.

I’ve heard the financial mismanagement arguments about road, schools and health (not least from every single cab driver in this place). This is very much about the ACT and I’ve said it before. We are over-serviced here with public infrastructure for our population level. The cost for this is incredibly unsustainable. Rates are going to go up, services will have to be further rationalised. We’re seeing it with schools. And travelling to other suburbs for an education is wholly acceptable. Health – no state, federal or territory government in Australia has been able to adequately fund health services to meet demand in their jurisdictions. This is potentially a bottomless pit. It will always be a point to bitch about. But I had to wait over 3 hrs to see a GP this week. Happy though to have had the access when billions elsewhere have no such opportunity. We are used to the high standards of life in the ACT – it’s just incredibly unsustainable. Face up to it. So who’s going to pay up?

Thumper Thumper 9:40 am 20 Sep 06

Unbeliever, I have lived in so many places that I have forgotten most of them.

The issue here is a very simple one. It is not about other places and their roads, it is about ACT roads.

And they are rapidly becoming worse and worse.

This is a core responsibility of the elected government. They are neglecting it.

It is their fault.

Not the oppositions fault. Not the publics fault.

Simple stuff really.

The current government financial mismanagement knows no bounds.

Can the opposition mob do any better? Who knows, but it is hard to see them doing worse.

johnboy johnboy 9:35 am 20 Sep 06

The ACT roads are getting worse at a worrying rate.

Are you suggesting that because the opposition are crap we should just lie back and let the Government do as it pleases?

Unbeliever Unbeliever 9:27 am 20 Sep 06

I love a good bitch fest – can anyone here do better? Then step up please. I’d love a competent alternative to vote for at the next ACT elections.

The ACT has fantastic roads, leave the ACT, travel the country and for that matter the world and you’d soon appreciate that fact. Cocooned, self-obsessed, spoilt Territorians – How I love thee.

Thumper Thumper 9:10 am 20 Sep 06

But hey, we are going to provide five star accomodfation for our prisioners so who are we, the public, to complain?

Thumper Thumper 9:09 am 20 Sep 06

Indeed Ferret,

every time it rains it seems that the potholes proliferate like bunnies in spring.

Adelaide avenue is a disgrace.

Growling Ferret Growling Ferret 8:56 am 20 Sep 06


The roads all over Canberra have gone to crap – Adelaide Avenue South opposite Deakin playing fields is a 300m stretch of potholes, the Parkway going north before the Cotter Road bridge is a minefield, and there are plenty of other examples. After the rains last month, there were some massive potholes that appeared overnight – the drought is saving the roads from being torn up even quicker…

VYBerlinaV8 VYBerlinaV8 8:47 am 20 Sep 06

BTW – I’m also a semi-regular cyclist.

VYBerlinaV8 VYBerlinaV8 8:46 am 20 Sep 06

I’m surprised how wide the lanes are around Canberra. I think making the lanes (including the slip lanes and shoulders) a bit narrower so you could fit 3 lanes in would be a good idea. Not only would it mean the same road can carry a larger traffic volume, but it would force people to be a bit more careful, so they didn’t wander between lanes. We seem to live under a regime that tells us if we don’t speed we’re somehow completely safe, but it just isn’t the case – encouraging accurate driving could be a step in the right direction.

Pandy Pandy 10:10 pm 19 Sep 06

Yeah and Tony Gill the chief huncho of Roads, is a cyclist.

Coincidence that bike lanes are appearing everywhere around the ACT? Just look at the disgrace that they did to the end of Hindmarsh Drive in Weston Creek.

shauno shauno 9:31 pm 19 Sep 06

We should have a bet on when the first “Do Not Pickup Hitch Hikers” sign appears

miz miz 7:36 pm 19 Sep 06

Well I’m annoyed about the extra set of traffic lights (so huge and bright it’s like aliens have landed) and the reduced speed zone, from 100km to 80km, on Monaro Hwy near the gaol.

morto1980 morto1980 6:22 pm 19 Sep 06

The roads here are still pretty damn fine. The only place I’ve seen that even approaches the poor quality surface of King Georges, Princes Hwy or Paramatta roads in Sydney is a short 5m stretch on Russell Dr. that is looking a bit tired. Not to mention that our lanes seem 1.5 times as wide as those in Sydney.

I guess I’ve not driven to Belco, Tuggers or other outer suburbs recently though… Is it really that bad?

johnboy johnboy 5:57 pm 19 Sep 06

I’m not blaming cyclists, I’m a cyclists myself

I’m blaming zealots who think that buses and bike paths are an acceptable mass transit system for the people of Canberra which would succeed if only motoring can be made sufficiently unpleasant.

joeyjo joeyjo 5:53 pm 19 Sep 06

I don’t think you can blame cyclists for road decay. Try looking a little closer to home…

johnboy johnboy 5:25 pm 19 Sep 06

But, hey, we’ve got a bill of rights we can drive on.

Only if we pay a pile of Sydney silks for their opinion of the compatibility of the purpose of our journey with the Bill of Rights, wait for them to deliver a report on that compatibility to the Government, at which point the Government might choose to ignore the report.

barking toad barking toad 5:21 pm 19 Sep 06

Chris Uhlman (sp?) had an article on the state of our roads and the reduced funding in yesterday’s crimes.

The patch ups of the past years (and they’ve been reducing) can’t last. Reconstruction will be required and the mayor has a bare cupboard.

Shifting car lanes and installing bike lanes with lashings of green paint to “protect” cyclists hasn’t been wise expenditure.

But, hey, we’ve got a bill of rights we can drive on.

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