GDE duplication is GO GO GO

johnboy 25 July 2008 72

[First filed: July 23, 2008 @ 17:58
Second filing July 24, 2008 @ 09:20]

The heat is ON!

Chief Minister Jon Stanhope and the Minister for Municipal Services John Hargreaves have just announced that the duplication of Gungahlin Drive is to start immediately.

    Work will commence on the southern end of the GDE immediately with a tender to be called next month with work to begin on the northern end of the road to be completed within the term of the next government.

Completion in four years.

Whingeing, it gets stuff done!

UPDATED: What appears to have set this off is Zed promising CityNews that he’d do the duplication. The ABC mentions some childish slanging over the timing.

The Liberal policy is on their website dated 21 July, but I couldn’t tell you when it got there.

ANOTHER UPDATE: Brendan Smyth is having a swipe at the Stanhopian U-Turn. He asks some hard questions about the funding:

    The question that the Chief Minister now has to answer for the Canberra community is how will he fund the GDE duplication project? Will he:

    • introduce a second appropriation bill?
    • raid the Treasurer’s Advance?
    • suck in funds from other road projects (as he did for the first GDE project)?
    • undertake a borrowing program to raise the capital?

We’re also somewhat interested as to how Zed is going to fund his proposal.

FURTHER UPDATE: Greens’ candidate Shane Rattenbury is saying he’d like to see a transit lane being built with the rest of it.

More Updateyness: The Community Alliance’s Norvan Vogt is attacking “One road for the price of two” and promising that he’d do better if he were king.

One more update for the road: Zed Seselja is so furious about his over-complicated media strategy leaving himself open to gazumping that he’s issued one of his amazingly rare media releases to vent his outrage at the same policy as his own being announced by the Government.

Surely the policy isn’t all that bad Zed? It is rather like your own.


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harvyk1 harvyk1 5:29 pm 23 Sep 08

Granny said :

There are only two lanes each way on the Parkway, although Drakeford Dr has the three lanes.

In fact the most obvious contrast between the Parkway and the GDE (leaving aside the number of lanes) would have to be the complete lack of public dissatisfaction with the Parkway.

Except I find it kinda weird the way the road goes from three lanes whilst on Drakeford Dr and yet down to a single lane around the GL Interchange (going into the city, the direction that most people who use the parkway are most likely to go in). It seems a little weird to me.

Gungahlin Al Gungahlin Al 10:54 am 30 Jul 08

“The most obvious contrast between the Parkway and the GDE would have to be the complete lack of public dissatisfaction with the Parkway.”

That should go to the poolroom!

Granny Granny 8:16 pm 26 Jul 08

There are only two lanes each way on the Parkway, although Drakeford Dr has the three lanes.

In fact the most obvious contrast between the Parkway and the GDE (leaving aside the number of lanes) would have to be the complete lack of public dissatisfaction with the Parkway.

Felix the Cat Felix the Cat 7:47 pm 26 Jul 08

Tuggeranong Parkway in contrast was an unnecessarily large road with many lanes that weren’t needed for probably around 10 years. I guess this might of been a Federal Govt job before self govt?

Granny Granny 7:27 pm 26 Jul 08

If cost is really the issue, the ACT government is sending all the wrong messages with the non-essential discretionary purchases they make such as statues and arboretums.

Most people intuitively understand that the first expense cuts should be luxury items, and that leaders should lead by example.

JC JC 6:58 pm 26 Jul 08

It is a cost issue BD84, 4 years allows them to stagger it. Again pretty bloody stuipd.

bd84 bd84 10:17 pm 25 Jul 08

I don’t see how it would take 4 years to duplicate a few kilometres of road. But then I’m not surprised, it is Stanhopeless we’re talking about. He wouldn’t be able to put up a 2 person tent without, turning it into a 1 person tent, at half the quality for twice the price and sticking a hideous piece of “art” in front of it.

bigred bigred 6:28 pm 25 Jul 08

The big winners here are the roadbuilders (read polical donations) and CFMEU (read jobs, free drinks for Hargreaves and political donations). Light rail loses again.

Granny Granny 5:46 pm 25 Jul 08

I have read the media release mentioned above and if it is true that the Government are only planning to duplicate the road between Belconnen Way and Glenloch Interchange then I am really disappointed. It definitely does need to go all the way to the Barton Hwy.

I had previously thought that, with both sides promising to fix it up, the road users would win either way.

caf caf 5:27 pm 25 Jul 08

Thumper: Nope, I only listen to the AM dial when the cricket’s on 😉 I was responding to your post – which appears to be saying that you found it unconvincing that the road was always intended to be duplicated.

Ian Ian 5:10 pm 25 Jul 08

Wow, amazing coincidence, 4 years to duplicate gets us to the election after this one. I can see a gala opening ceremony just before that election.

They’ll probably be promising to triplicate it then.

spoonbill spoonbill 4:18 pm 25 Jul 08

Whatever the rights and wrongs of this road, to have opened the GDE with only 1 lane and then within six months to decide that it needs 2 smacks of the very worst planning and politicking. The ridiculousness of this decision is simply stunning. I wouldn’t wish this current government and Stanhopeless on NSW!

Gungahlin Al Gungahlin Al 11:59 am 25 Jul 08

No issue with what you are saying Caf. But I’ll defer to what the Canberra Times editorial said today – they were 100% on the money.

Of more concern right now (to me anyway) is that Mr Stanhope has used the Page 2 article to deny what that he said what he did at the meeting on 8 July (see post #45).

He’s as much as called me a liar. Even though there were another 10 people in the room (representing every Community Council) who heard it.

Thumper Thumper 10:10 am 25 Jul 08

caf,

Did you hear the interview?

yes, provision has been made for widening. But one still must ask how a road can so obsolete before it’s even opened.

Stanhope’s explanation was less than convincing.

As for the CFMEU, I’d reckon they’d be happy the road was going ahead, another guaranteed four years of work.

caf caf 9:57 am 25 Jul 08

Gungahlin Al: “disappointing” for the residents of Gungahlin no doubt, but as someone who’s been involved in local government yourself you must admit that it is nonetheless a basic truth that the more money you spend in one place, the less there is available to spend elsewhere. I’m sure every community council would love an 8 lane concrete autobahn from their area to the city, but clearly that would require cuts elsewhere.

bigred: I have my doubts about the feasibility of light rail too, but your comment makes no sense – there would be more work for CFMEU members in building a light rail system than in duplicating an existing road.

Adza: Close, but read that link closer – it’s only roads over80km/h that have that rule (not “80km/h and over”). So in the ACT that means 90km/h and 100km/h roads.

Thumper: I’m not sure what that’s unconvincing – anyone who was looking could always see that the road was being built with a third and fourth lane in mind – eg between Gininderra Dr and Belconnen Way it’ll just be a matter of widening the existing carriageways towards the centre.

Growling Ferret Growling Ferret 8:53 am 25 Jul 08

Thumper

I heard the same report this morning, and it was a terrible performance. His ability to twist the truth for his own political benefits was very poor today, and Mike called him out on it…

I don’t see Sonic in charge this time next year. But will the people of Canberra decide its time for a change?

Crikey Crikey 8:51 am 25 Jul 08

Child-like Brendan Smyth is attacking Stanhope’s economic credentials concerning the GDE, however, all Smyth, a potential Treasurer in Zed’s government has on his resume is that he used to manage a small book shop.

Every time Smyth opens his mouth the ACT Liberals lose credibility.

Zed is doing a pretty good job so it is a shame that deadwood like Smyth is dragging him down.

Thumper Thumper 8:20 am 25 Jul 08

What’s this CFMEU stuff?

What the hell have they got to do with it?

Thumper Thumper 8:18 am 25 Jul 08

I heard Stanhope of radio SGS this morning.

No money, always planned to duplicate it, see the double pylons, No money, always planned to duplicate it, see the double pylons, No money, always planned to duplicate it, see the double pylons, No money, always planned to duplicate it, see the double pylons, No money, always planned to duplicate it, see the double pylons.

Not very convincing I’m afraid….

Granny Granny 12:44 am 25 Jul 08

Well said, peterh. Not great for the blood pressure either! Let’s just hope that it doesn’t take 212 years as reported … or even four.

: )

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