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GoGet, Popcar car-sharing trial for ACT

By Charlotte Harper 18 April 2016 61

Car share announcement - Meegan Fitzharris

Two car-sharing companies, GoGet and Popcar, will provide Canberrans with access to small fleets of their vehicles as part of a two-year trial of the transport option.

Car sharing works by having a fleet of cars available to be booked at any time, day or night, with customers paying a fee determined by how far they drive and how long they hire the car.

Members of the program will be able to find cars near them and making bookings via mobile apps or online booking systems at www.goget.com.au or popcar.com.au.

The commitment to car sharing is part of the ACT Labor-Greens Parliamentary Agreement.

ACT Minister for Transport and Municipal Services Meegan Fitzharris said that by becoming a member of either service, Canberrans would be able to access a network of 22 cars parked in specially marked spaces around the ACT, including in Civic (ACT Magistrates Court car park and London Circuit/Constitution Avenue car park), Dickson (Challis Street), Russell and near the Treasury building in the Parliamentary Triangle.

“People can simply book for the hours they need, or for a full day,” Ms Fitzharris said.

“During the two-year trial membership to the service will be offered at an initially discounted rate, so I really encourage people to become a member and try it out.”

National Capital Authority chief executive Malcolm Snow endorsed the initiative and has contributed a number of car spaces on National Land for the short-term rental.

“The program has a number of environmental benefits for the ACT, as well as economic benefits for those who use it,” Mr Snow said.

“The car sharing program will use newer, more fuel-efficient cars, including hybrid vehicles. By encouraging sharing the same vehicle between a number of people, the program should encourage less car usage for individuals and fewer cars on the road. In turn this should mean less pollution and congestion on our roads.”

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Claire 5:50 pm 21 Apr 16

Do the car sharing companies have to pay for these parking spots? Taxi owners have to pay for the taxi ranks.

StevenC 1:36 pm 21 Apr 16

I use GoGet in Sydney because I hate driving back and forth. It’s a fantastic service. And it’s not the same as standard hire cars because, after registering, you just book online in seconds, walk up to the car, get in and use it.

And there will now be one less personal car using up city car parks because I’m finally going to sell my own car – and just stick to GoGet in both Sydney and Canberra.

dungfungus 12:16 pm 21 Apr 16

Holden Caulfield said :

rubaiyat said :

It’s interesting to see the reaction of people who fear change – they refuse to accept renewable energy, climate science, and anything like this which upsets their static outlook on the way the world is. Fascinating.

If you don’t understand, you fear.

I think you mean “fear of the unknown”. To say people are fearful because they don’t understand something is simply ridiculous.

rubaiyat 11:31 am 21 Apr 16

rubaiyat said :

It’s interesting to see the reaction of people who fear change – they refuse to accept renewable energy, climate science, and anything like this which upsets their static outlook on the way the world is. Fascinating.

If you don’t understand, you fear.

HenryBG 8:36 am 21 Apr 16

rubaiyat said :

Wouldn’t you just hate it that you can’t book a car because they are all taken, then think back to the days when you used to own your own car and could use it any time you liked?

I’ve lived without a car. When I felt like driving to the big smoke, I hired one for the day/weekend.
When I wanted to go to the beach for a week, I hired one for the week.
In-between times, I used public transport to get to and from work, the kids walked to school, and shopping required a taxi to bring the loot home.
Worked fine, and much cheaper and less hassles than owning a car.
It should catch on. Only, not in Canberra. You just can’t live in Canberra without a car.

Good luck to them though – this means fewer cars on the road and more parking for the rest of us.

rubaiyat said :

The statement of “We’ve taken over 50km of parking off the streets by people deferring purchasing a car.” isn’t exactly true because the hire cars are still taking up parking somewhere all day, whether it is at their home base or out and about somewhere. Their designated parking spot is taken up all day and night even if the car isn’t there, so it is conceivable that the hire car is taking up two public car spots at the same time. The more we see of these vehicles, the less public parking space there will be for the rest of us.

I don’t know whether to call this a big fat maths fail or something else.

If I decide to not buy a car, that frees up a parking space.
One Popcar serves the needs of multiple people who have done away with a car of their own.
For every 1 extra Popcar you see, that is 1xX extra parking spaces that have been freed up, where X represents the number of cars that are given up per Popcar that is in circulation.

It’s interesting to see the reaction of people who fear change – they refuse to accept renewable energy, climate science, and anything like this which upsets their static outlook on the way the world is. Fascinating.

Mordd 7:30 pm 20 Apr 16

JC said :

rubaiyat said :

Great to see stuff like this finally happening in Canberra, now we just need them to expand the network to include Belconnen, Gunghalin, Woden and Tuggeranong and then we will have a real option available.

What is the real option over?

My point being that although autonomous cars will not save us (despite a number of people on hear thinking they are the solution to everything) – however a few good car sharing schemes can make a much bigger difference to a cities transport options and we can do it right now, not in 10-20 years time when the tech for autonomous cars finally comes good.

rubaiyat 4:39 pm 20 Apr 16

rubaiyat said :

The next phase would be google taking over Uber ! All cars would be driver less !

Uber is working on it already.

It was the obvious idea from the beginning. All the drivers who have gone out and invested in Uber and possibly given up their day jobs were only giving Uber their seed money.

You are getting a taste of what is to come. You pay an American corporation initially a little bit less than taxi fare to get about because you have either opposed or refused to use public transport, then when there are no other alternatives they jack up the price.

Meanwhile they have shuffled all your money offshore through tax havens so that Australia is in even more debt, whilst you and your children lose their jobs.

Same will happen next mining boom, if there ever is one. Why hire Aussie drivers to move our resources offshore? It will all be done remotely from the most exploitable 3rd world country that can be used for outsourcing.

Now back to my decades old idea of out sourcing our government. Sack both large parties and put the job up for contract. Singapore should pick it up, they did most of our trade after the Liberals signed that brilliant “Free Trade Agreement” with them.

Of course the Singaporeans will run Australia for their benefit, not ours, so effectively nothing will change.

rubaiyat 2:35 pm 20 Apr 16

rubaiyat said :

I see nothing different about this car sharing gimmick to simply hiring a car from a hire company. You will need to catch public transport to get to the car’s parked location [at least 99% of us will], you still have to drive through peak hour like everyone else, you still need to park it somewhere and pay for parking while you shop/work and you have to bring it back and park in the same spot if nobody else has taken the parking bay for themselves. If you become a regular user you may as well own your own car, it’ll be cheaper in the long run.
If there is a higher than usual demand for this service, you can be left with no car available to make your commute. About the only people who will benefit from this are those who don’t own vehicles and find public transport for some reason not useful, but if you need to book the car a few days in advance a taxi would do the same job just as effectively.

The statement of “We’ve taken over 50km of parking off the streets by people deferring purchasing a car.” isn’t exactly true because the hire cars are still taking up parking somewhere all day, whether it is at their home base or out and about somewhere. Their designated parking spot is taken up all day and night even if the car isn’t there, so it is conceivable that the hire car is taking up two public car spots at the same time. The more we see of these vehicles, the less public parking space there will be for the rest of us. If the aim is to only have these vehicles at new high rise apartments with no parking for residents, the attraction to move into such a building will negated by the lack of suitable transport to get you from home to anywhere, unless there is a car for every residence out the front. Wouldn’t you just hate it that you can’t book a car because they are all taken, then think back to the days when you used to own your own car and could use it any time you liked?

If several people avail themselves of the car a day, that is several cars not on the road or not occupying parking spaces.

Your knee-jerk objection to anything except “Car – The One True Way. May peace be upon it!” makes you oppose anything that might actually benefit YOU as a driver.

madelini 12:33 pm 20 Apr 16

rubaiyat said :

I see nothing different about this car sharing gimmick to simply hiring a car from a hire company. You will need to catch public transport to get to the car’s parked location [at least 99% of us will], you still have to drive through peak hour like everyone else, you still need to park it somewhere and pay for parking while you shop/work and you have to bring it back and park in the same spot if nobody else has taken the parking bay for themselves. If you become a regular user you may as well own your own car, it’ll be cheaper in the long run.
If there is a higher than usual demand for this service, you can be left with no car available to make your commute. About the only people who will benefit from this are those who don’t own vehicles and find public transport for some reason not useful, but if you need to book the car a few days in advance a taxi would do the same job just as effectively.

The statement of “We’ve taken over 50km of parking off the streets by people deferring purchasing a car.” isn’t exactly true because the hire cars are still taking up parking somewhere all day, whether it is at their home base or out and about somewhere. Their designated parking spot is taken up all day and night even if the car isn’t there, so it is conceivable that the hire car is taking up two public car spots at the same time. The more we see of these vehicles, the less public parking space there will be for the rest of us. If the aim is to only have these vehicles at new high rise apartments with no parking for residents, the attraction to move into such a building will negated by the lack of suitable transport to get you from home to anywhere, unless there is a car for every residence out the front. Wouldn’t you just hate it that you can’t book a car because they are all taken, then think back to the days when you used to own your own car and could use it any time you liked?

If you live in Braddon and work in the City or Kingston, then this could very well be a viable option for the occasions if you need to go further away – and rather than paying for a full day or two, as you do with car hire companies, you’d pay for the time that you use it. As Canberra becomes more built up, services like this become more useful to those who don’t need a car all the time. The point isn’t to use them every day, but to have an affordable option if and when you need it.

madelini 12:29 pm 20 Apr 16

JC said :

rubaiyat said :

Great to see stuff like this finally happening in Canberra, now we just need them to expand the network to include Belconnen, Gunghalin, Woden and Tuggeranong and then we will have a real option available.

What is the real option over?

Over not owning your own car, if you don’t need to drive every day. For example, if you live within walking/cycling/public transport distance of your work and close to one of the centres, then it might be more financially viable to not own a car and to use these services when you need to go somewhere further away. That’s why the City/Kingston trial is good – they would, statistically speaking, be the ones most likely to use a service like this.

So far, it’s one of the easiest systems to implement and a real-world trial to see if we can reduce the amount of cars on the road and free up parking in the busy hubs. I would absolutely use one of these services if it was viable – even with the membership/usage fee, it is still cheaper than services, petrol, rego and general upkeep of owning a car.

Evilomlap 2:06 pm 19 Apr 16

rubaiyat said :

The next phase would be google taking over Uber ! All cars would be driver less !

And the phase after that I believe is known as Skynet!! Does anyone know where to reach Sarah Connor these days?

BenRolfe 9:25 am 19 Apr 16

The next phase would be google taking over Uber ! All cars would be driver less !

wildturkeycanoe 7:35 am 19 Apr 16

I see nothing different about this car sharing gimmick to simply hiring a car from a hire company. You will need to catch public transport to get to the car’s parked location [at least 99% of us will], you still have to drive through peak hour like everyone else, you still need to park it somewhere and pay for parking while you shop/work and you have to bring it back and park in the same spot if nobody else has taken the parking bay for themselves. If you become a regular user you may as well own your own car, it’ll be cheaper in the long run.
If there is a higher than usual demand for this service, you can be left with no car available to make your commute. About the only people who will benefit from this are those who don’t own vehicles and find public transport for some reason not useful, but if you need to book the car a few days in advance a taxi would do the same job just as effectively.

The statement of “We’ve taken over 50km of parking off the streets by people deferring purchasing a car.” isn’t exactly true because the hire cars are still taking up parking somewhere all day, whether it is at their home base or out and about somewhere. Their designated parking spot is taken up all day and night even if the car isn’t there, so it is conceivable that the hire car is taking up two public car spots at the same time. The more we see of these vehicles, the less public parking space there will be for the rest of us. If the aim is to only have these vehicles at new high rise apartments with no parking for residents, the attraction to move into such a building will negated by the lack of suitable transport to get you from home to anywhere, unless there is a car for every residence out the front. Wouldn’t you just hate it that you can’t book a car because they are all taken, then think back to the days when you used to own your own car and could use it any time you liked?

dungfungus 9:24 pm 18 Apr 16

rubaiyat said :

Great to see stuff like this finally happening in Canberra, now we just need them to expand the network to include Belconnen, Gunghalin, Woden and Tuggeranong and then we will have a real option available.

What is the real option over?

rubaiyat 9:15 pm 18 Apr 16

dungfungus said :

No_Nose said :

Masquara said :

Good grief!
Here we go again.
How much will this Green folly cost us ratepayers?

Good grief!

There you go again.

How much can it hurt to try? Total cost to the taxpayer 22 car parking spaces throughout Canberra!

The CEO of GoGet Tristan Sender says:
“Car sharing actually frees up space for resident parking.
We believe that what we’re doing is helping residents to not own their own vehicle, our product makes it possible for people to give up their car and use car sharing instead,” Sender says. “We’ve taken over 50km of parking off the streets by people deferring purchasing a car.”

The new “value added” units to be built along Northbourne Avenue will most likely have car share parking and nothing else. It will be interesting to see who pays for the actual creation of the car parking spaces.
This is already being done in some larger cities that have real traffic problems; fair enough.
but I don’t think Canberra is the place for this and as usual, there is little detail on the finance part of the deal.
How much will it cost Canberra ratepayers well, who knows?
It’s all very easy to say there is 22 x $30 per day foregone but there must be a lot more involved.
And it is not “throughout Canberra” it’s predominantly Civic and inner North Canberra.
It’s hard to be enthusiastic when the last couple of government thought bubbles have failed spectacularly costing ratepayers millions of dollars.

According to you, the Government should do absolutely nothing in case it doesn’t work.

Just as you want the Federal Government to do absolutely nothing on the environment, guns, economic pump priming, and a host of other issues.

You however have no hesitation at recommending Governments throw money away at whatever itches you. The dirtier the better, apparently because irrationally you associate that with prosperity.

…except when it is in your backyard and you actually can’t avoid having your nose rubbed in it. Then you want action, full steam ahead, damn the treasuries!

It is in the nature of conservatives to be purely selfish and self centred, I get that. I just wish you understood that it isn’t all just for you. You have benefited enormously from governments over your life, just because you have had it all, you should not simply say, that was then, this is now and pull up your drawbridge, damn everybody else.

For a very small cost, the government gets to try something that could cut down cars in the city. If it works, you’ll actually have less cars on the roads and more places for you to park. If it doesn’t, things will continue to get more congested, just the way you want then to.

Mordd 7:51 pm 18 Apr 16

Great to see stuff like this finally happening in Canberra, now we just need them to expand the network to include Belconnen, Gunghalin, Woden and Tuggeranong and then we will have a real option available.

dungfungus 3:22 pm 18 Apr 16

No_Nose said :

Masquara said :

Good grief!
Here we go again.
How much will this Green folly cost us ratepayers?

Good grief!

There you go again.

How much can it hurt to try? Total cost to the taxpayer 22 car parking spaces throughout Canberra!

The CEO of GoGet Tristan Sender says:
“Car sharing actually frees up space for resident parking.
We believe that what we’re doing is helping residents to not own their own vehicle, our product makes it possible for people to give up their car and use car sharing instead,” Sender says. “We’ve taken over 50km of parking off the streets by people deferring purchasing a car.”

The new “value added” units to be built along Northbourne Avenue will most likely have car share parking and nothing else. It will be interesting to see who pays for the actual creation of the car parking spaces.
This is already being done in some larger cities that have real traffic problems; fair enough.
but I don’t think Canberra is the place for this and as usual, there is little detail on the finance part of the deal.
How much will it cost Canberra ratepayers well, who knows?
It’s all very easy to say there is 22 x $30 per day foregone but there must be a lot more involved.
And it is not “throughout Canberra” it’s predominantly Civic and inner North Canberra.
It’s hard to be enthusiastic when the last couple of government thought bubbles have failed spectacularly costing ratepayers millions of dollars.

Raging Tempest 2:43 pm 18 Apr 16

No_Nose said :

Masquara said :

Good grief!
Here we go again.
How much will this Green folly cost us ratepayers?

How much can it hurt to try? Total cost to the taxpayer 22 car parking spaces throughout Canberra!

Because these spaces are all central Canberra, so its another boon for the inner city dwellers paid for by those in the ‘burbs. A wider spread of spaces would be better so those in outer areas without cars don’t need to spend so much time and money on being able to access them, not to mention the restrictions on being able to access them only when public transport can get them back home afterwards. Good idea, execution not so much.

rubaiyat 12:03 pm 18 Apr 16

Masquara said :

Good grief!
Here we go again.
How much will this Green folly cost us ratepayers?

Good grief!

There you go again.

How much can it hurt to try? Total cost to the taxpayer 22 car parking spaces throughout Canberra!

dungfungus 11:13 am 18 Apr 16

Good grief!
Here we go again.
How much will this Green folly cost us ratepayers?

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