21 September 2011

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I think I might have to rethink my career path, because apparently these days couriers can afford Porsche’s!

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1967 said :

Given the size and style of the vehicle, it’s probably registered as a “Commercial” vehicle and “Legally” allowed to park in a loading zone.

However, as a tradesman, who spends quite a bit of time driving laps of the Civic area trying to find somewhere to park close to where ever I’m working, (so I’m not lugging ladders and tools and materials for blocks), nothing s*%#s me more than soccer mums in their luxury 4WDs parking in loading zones nice and close to what ever cafe or nail shop they’re going to meet their friends at.
Particularly when the sit there for hours….

You should just park your car on the side walk and put up some bunting to block any pedestrians from using it like any other tradie.

shadow boxer7:45 pm 22 Sep 11

OpenYourMind said :

shadow boxer said :

A bit off topic but I had a German visitor I was looking after for work once and he saw the turbo version of one of these parked outside his hotel.

He stopped and had a look and did a quick lap of the vehicle before coming over to me with a puzzled look and said “what would be the point of one of these in your country ? they are designed to cruise at 140-160kmh”

I didn’t really have an answer for him and he was a bit sad at the wasted technology.

This is a ridiculous statement. SUVs aren’t my cup of tea, but if someone has the money and decides that’s the vehicle for them, then good luck to them. Just because a car is well engineered for higher speeds doesn’t mean you have to do higher speeds. I can’t help thinking there must be an element of jealousy when people get all upset about someone elses choice of vehicle.

The Porsche Cayenne we were looking at is a 373kW twin-turbo 4.8 litre V8 that retails for $250,000 and runs on 20 inch rims with ceramic brakes..

Why, because it is a phenomenal piece of state of the art engineering designed to kick arse, he wasn’t being critical of the owner, he was just lamenting the fact that it would never see its potential used. We are geeks so I knew where he was coming from.

I expalined our spastic speed limts to him over a bottle of red later on..

screaming banshee7:02 pm 22 Sep 11

KeenGolfer said :

I beg to differ. I’ve given tickets out for parking in a loading zone (including utes) when they weren’t loading/unloading.

Please define loading/unloading…I assume you can if you are giving out the tickets. Is the driver allowed to leave the vehicle to deliver the item they have just unloaded or must they remain with the vehicle at all times?

el said :

Nope. Vans and utes are commercial vehicles (and get to pay roughly double the normal registration costs of a passenger car in the ACT) and can park legally in a loading zone without a permit.

I don’t dispute the fact that “Goods carrying vehicles pay more, but it is not quite double…


Passenger carrying vehicles
Kilograms Fee in Australian Dollars
1155 – 1504 $829.90
Goods carrying vehicles
Kilograms Fee in Australian Dollars
1155 – 1504 $903.50

OpenYourMind12:36 pm 22 Sep 11

shadow boxer said :

A bit off topic but I had a German visitor I was looking after for work once and he saw the turbo version of one of these parked outside his hotel.

He stopped and had a look and did a quick lap of the vehicle before coming over to me with a puzzled look and said “what would be the point of one of these in your country ? they are designed to cruise at 140-160kmh”

I didn’t really have an answer for him and he was a bit sad at the wasted technology.

This is a ridiculous statement. SUVs aren’t my cup of tea, but if someone has the money and decides that’s the vehicle for them, then good luck to them. Just because a car is well engineered for higher speeds doesn’t mean you have to do higher speeds. I can’t help thinking there must be an element of jealousy when people get all upset about someone elses choice of vehicle.

el said :

Nope. Vans and utes are commercial vehicles (and get to pay roughly double the normal registration costs of a passenger car in the ACT) and can park legally in a loading zone without a permit.

Utes are not classified in the ACT as as primarily a goods carrying vehicle. Utes do require a permit to park in a loading zone. However, for a ute the permit is free, but still need to get one from ACT RTA. I have spoken to them on the phone about this a couple of times.

el said :

The ‘must be loading or unloading goods’ thing isn’t enforced, regardless of whether it’s a commercial vehicle or a passenger vehicle with a loading zone permit.

I beg to differ. I’ve given tickets out for parking in a loading zone (including utes) when they weren’t loading/unloading.

BimboGeek said :

I always have to park my little hatchback in a loading zone when I’ve been ferrying supplies to and from work. I assumed you had to have a van to use them legally… Good to know theres a permit for the likes of me!

There is, but they aren’t cheap (to the point where it might be cheaper to get booked once a year on average!)

Full details of who can/can’t park in loading zones and costs for loading zone permits here:

Parking for Goods Carrying Vehicles @ rego.act.gov.au

KeenGolfer said :

Jivrashia said :

I think it goes as far as that vans, wagons, utes, jeeps can park in the Loading Zone without fear of an infringement notice.

No they can’t. They need to apply for a permit to park in a loading zone. Also, they have to be loading or unloading goods – you can’t park in a loading zone for any other reason.

Nope. Vans and utes are commercial vehicles (and get to pay roughly double the normal registration costs of a passenger car in the ACT) and can park legally in a loading zone without a permit.

The loading zone permits are for non-commercial (passenger) vehicles so they don’t get booked.

The ‘must be loading or unloading goods’ thing isn’t enforced, regardless of whether it’s a commercial vehicle or a passenger vehicle with a loading zone permit.

Highly doubtful this car had a permit, probably just too lazy to find a legal park and more than happy to inconvenience delivery vehicles with a legitimate reason to park there.

shadow boxer said :

A bit off topic but I had a German visitor I was looking after for work once and he saw the turbo version of one of these parked outside his hotel.

He stopped and had a look and did a quick lap of the vehicle before coming over to me with a puzzled look and said “what would be the point of one of these in your country ? they are designed to cruise at 140-160kmh”

I didn’t really have an answer for him and he was a bit sad at the wasted technology.

Did you say our Government says we’ll die if we travel at those speeds (which is probably true for a large part of Canberra drivers…)

I always have to park my little hatchback in a loading zone when I’ve been ferrying supplies to and from work. I assumed you had to have a van to use them legally… Good to know theres a permit for the likes of me!

Jivrashia said :

I think it goes as far as that vans, wagons, utes, jeeps can park in the Loading Zone without fear of an infringement notice.

No they can’t. They need to apply for a permit to park in a loading zone. Also, they have to be loading or unloading goods – you can’t park in a loading zone for any other reason.

Jivrashia said :

1967 said :

Given the size and style of the vehicle, it’s probably registered as a “Commercial” vehicle and “Legally” allowed to park in a loading zone.

I think it goes as far as that vans, wagons, utes, jeeps can park in the Loading Zone without fear of an infringement notice.

What gets me is that the guy can afford a Porche, and yet is coy about a measly parking fare?
…Are you guys sure it’s not a Great Wall 4WD?

It’s a passenger vehicle – it may have an expensive limited time loading zone permit but I doubt it.
The vehicle manufacturer’s specs. determine whether a vehicle is deemed passenger or goods carrying – there are no “hybrids”. The cost of registration, CTP etc for a goods carrying vehicle in the ACT is about 50% more than a passenger one. The vehicle type in the photo is very popular with real estate agents and whale watchers.

other bad driving 101…

The car that pulled into the Curtin shops yesterday GT-350 with the mountain bike on the roof. You parked in the disabled spot for over an hour and yet nowhere did i see your disability parking permit.

I find abled bodied drivers parking in the disabled spots a pretty low bloody act.

I didn’t think to check for a loading zone permit.

Given the size and style of the vehicle, it’s probably registered as a “Commercial” vehicle and “Legally” allowed to park in a loading zone.

I’d be surprised if any Porsche was ever registered as a commercial vehicle…regardless, the rules say “Vehicles that are primarily designed to carry goods, can park in loading zones for the purpose of loading or unloading only.” Pretty sure that one isn’t primarily designed to carry goods, and there certainly didn’t seem to be any loading or unloading going on!

Even if your vehicle is classified as one that can legally use a loading zone, it doesn’t mean that you’ve got a handy 30 minute parking space whenever you feel like it, the space has to be used for the purpose that it’s been provided.

Jivrashia said :

1967 said :

Given the size and style of the vehicle, it’s probably registered as a “Commercial” vehicle and “Legally” allowed to park in a loading zone.

I think it goes as far as that vans, wagons, utes, jeeps can park in the Loading Zone without fear of an infringement notice.

What gets me is that the guy can afford a Porche, and yet is coy about a measly parking fare?
…Are you guys sure it’s not a Great Wall 4WD?

If you had the choice of a) paying for parking, or b) not paying for parking, which would you choose?

Remembering that it is probably classed as commercial, and hence s/he is not doing anything illegal…

1967 said :

Given the size and style of the vehicle, it’s probably registered as a “Commercial” vehicle and “Legally” allowed to park in a loading zone.

I think it goes as far as that vans, wagons, utes, jeeps can park in the Loading Zone without fear of an infringement notice.

What gets me is that the guy can afford a Porche, and yet is coy about a measly parking fare?
…Are you guys sure it’s not a Great Wall 4WD?

troll-sniffer2:38 pm 21 Sep 11

Did you have a look for the bumper sticker that should be affixed:

“When you’ve finished checking out mah wheels, I got a small penis to show you as well”

shadow boxer said :

He stopped and had a look and did a quick lap of the vehicle before coming over to me with a puzzled look and said “what would be the point of one of these in your country ? they are designed to cruise at 140-160kmh”

Same goes for the larger models sold by BMW, Mercedes, Audi, etc.

Personally, I want one with a lift kit, snorkel and mud tyres…

shadow boxer said :

… he was a bit sad at the wasted technology.

Aren’t we all, mate, aren’t we all.

shadow boxer1:42 pm 21 Sep 11

A bit off topic but I had a German visitor I was looking after for work once and he saw the turbo version of one of these parked outside his hotel.

He stopped and had a look and did a quick lap of the vehicle before coming over to me with a puzzled look and said “what would be the point of one of these in your country ? they are designed to cruise at 140-160kmh”

I didn’t really have an answer for him and he was a bit sad at the wasted technology.

Given the size and style of the vehicle, it’s probably registered as a “Commercial” vehicle and “Legally” allowed to park in a loading zone.

However, as a tradesman, who spends quite a bit of time driving laps of the Civic area trying to find somewhere to park close to where ever I’m working, (so I’m not lugging ladders and tools and materials for blocks), nothing s*%#s me more than soccer mums in their luxury 4WDs parking in loading zones nice and close to what ever cafe or nail shop they’re going to meet their friends at.
Particularly when the sit there for hours….

Looks very much like the Porche branded motorcycle I saw parked in a m/c parking area the other day.

scraping the bottom of the humour barrel with this post, imo.

Couriers can afford Porche’s what?

Which would still make it a porsche being used as a goods vehicle.

Did yo check to see if it had a loading zone permit? You can purchase permits that allow you park your vehicle in a loading zone for 15/30 mins no matter what you drive..

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