Googong pipeline protest

johnboy 9 December 2011 108

Here in the Eagle’s Nest we think the Murrumbidgee to Googong Pipeline is a brilliant idea. But not everyone’s a fan.

Charlotte Meany has posted this video and sent an open letter to the Minister:

Dear Minister,

The Murrumbidgee to Googong pipeline water transfer is a horrific project happening right on
our doorstep here in Burra. It will be responsible for destroying the delicate eco-system here
which is far more important to future generations than 150 million dollars worth of profit in
company wins and jobs.

You are in one of ACTEW’s videos promoting it. Interesting none of those videos allow comments!

Well my little protesting one does so please go and have a look and please make a comment:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-D-T3hQPKA

While you are there please take note of the publication which can be acquired from Enviroment Dept!

Instructing AGAINST the use of pipeline for drought solution.

Regards,

Charlotte Meany

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Chop71 Chop71 2:10 pm 09 Dec 11

lol, 3 or 4 showers a day Canberra people.

shadow boxer shadow boxer 2:43 pm 09 Dec 11

The eco system, looks like introduced poplars and willows to me.

longshanks longshanks 2:54 pm 09 Dec 11

Chop71 said :

lol, 3 or 4 showers a day Canberra people. YOW Meany – You stink!!!

Classic NIMBYism – it’s ugly; it’s going to damage the environment; nobody consulted me; it might help others but who cares, there’s no benefit to me; I didn’t know this was going to happen when I bought this house; etc. There’s even the standard misinformed hyperbole – I mean, who actually has time to have 3 or 4 showers a day? Does anyone know anyone who does this?

I also love the line about there being lots of cars and trucks driving past – it’s a road designed for vehicles, vehicles are using the road. Get over it.

chewy14 chewy14 3:26 pm 09 Dec 11

Ha ha what a dribbler.
A pump station and an underground pipeline.
Yeah, its really going to ruin the delicate ecosystems of Williamsdale road.

Pure NIMBY.

Postalgeek Postalgeek 3:40 pm 09 Dec 11

I’ll trade all the crap that’s been dumped near our property for a pipeline anyday.

shirty_bear shirty_bear 4:18 pm 09 Dec 11

What a painful pile of nonsensical hippie NIMBY dribble.

I need another of my 4-shower quota now … feeling so unclean …

Waiting For Godot Waiting For Godot 4:28 pm 09 Dec 11

Oh dear, “destroying the delicate eco-system”. Build 50 pipelines!

KB1971 KB1971 5:56 pm 09 Dec 11

Oh my gawd!!!!!! Answer me this, you live out of town on the Williamsdale Road, where do you get all your supplies (food, clothing ect) from? & dont say Queanbeyan because Quangers benifits from this pipeline too. If you hate Canberra so much I hope its Cooma!

Another question, are you opposed to the quarry (where a lot of trucks drive up & down that road & have done for 10 years or more)? It will leave a blight on the landscape when they are finished with it. At least the pipeline will be buried……….

A bit…..sorry……a lot hypocrytical if you ask me.

p1 p1 11:00 pm 09 Dec 11

What delicate ecosystem? The one all the offended NIMBYS have built houses, drive ways and septic tanks in (at no benefit to anyone but themselves I might add).

m00nee m00nee 10:29 am 10 Dec 11

I happen to work with a relative of Charlotte. Their response after watching the video:

“oh dear” 🙁

Jethro Jethro 10:51 am 10 Dec 11

So it’s a pipe running along the side of the road?

Not exactly a nuclear power plant or a coal-fired power station.

Mr Evil Mr Evil 11:25 am 10 Dec 11

But the sound of all that rushing water going through the pipe might put her free-range hens off their feed, man!

http://www.ingebra.com/index.htm

I particularly like the comment at the end about hoping that we get torrential rain for the next few years that damages the pipes, etc, and wastes millions of dollars of taxpayers money – bitter much????

Jethro Jethro 12:36 pm 10 Dec 11

Apparently she allows comments if they agree with her.

All other comments have been removed.

ceam ceam 3:12 pm 10 Dec 11

Jethro said :

Apparently she allows comments if they agree with her.

All other comments have been removed.

I allow all comments that do not make personal attacks or violate privacy. I am a mother and this is our home and when people make comments which threaten our security that is illegal and rightfully so.

As for our property having eroded areas and pest species that is because previous owners over grazed the land and planted non natives. It takes time to reverse the effects and certainly the satellite pictures of our place shows it when it wasn’t even our own. But this is an argument which has nothing to do with the destruction of the national reserve down the road. The difficulty is not in laying pipes on Williamsdale road- it is the running of water through the creek beds of the reserve and the method of transfers having failed every where else economically, socially and environmentally as stated by Australian Gov reports.

Everyone has a right to their say and debating such issues should not entertain personal attacks so I can’t respond to the bulk of posters on here that have resorted to this method of debate especially the one who says they work with one of my relatives. Certainly I would not want one of my work colleagues posting that in a general forum as a means of attack- but I will leave that one between the two of you, whoever that relative might be.

I am proud so many people have viewed my shaky video of protest and I can only hope others away from my backyard will take note should this happen to their neighbouring reserve. I’m not an activist – I am a normal mum and I choose my fights according to how close to home- that is I believe normal human behaviour. I am not a politician or masked crusader who can fight all the injustices of the world. I am concentrating on my small corner. And I am not hiding behind fake names to spurt hate comments just because someone is against a public work.

shadow boxer shadow boxer 3:46 pm 10 Dec 11

ceam said The difficulty is not in laying pipes on Williamsdale road- it is the running of water through the creek beds of the reserve and the method of transfers having failed every where else economically, socially and environmentally as stated by Australian Gov reports.

What does this mean ? are they flooding the creeks before it goes into the pipes ?

You really should video the actual part you are concerned about, not some random road, We can then see if it is a delicate eco system or overgrazed willows and poplars

I am also curious how the millions ACTEW is spending on this is going to make them money. It seems to me it would reduce their profits and they wouldn’t be doing it unless they had to.

ceam ceam 5:34 pm 10 Dec 11

I will go down to london bridge and the nature reserve and film the creek beds where the water will be transfered through to the dam. All this was explained to us by scientists when the proposal was first put up for public knowledge. Scientists against the project took a whole group of us down to the reserve to show us how the damage would occur in layman terms. Since then I’ve read this document sold through the Environment dept of Australian Government and anyone can read for themselves. It discusses all pipelines that have been built around Australia and weighs up pros and cons. The final conclusion of that paper says this and I quote:

“Although water transport projects may be technically possible, every study so far has found that such projects would have high energy, economic, social and environmental costs.”

http://www.environment.gov.au/water/publications/action/pubs/moving-water.rtf.

The millions go to the company who engineers these pipelines and the companies who implement them and then is filtered on down to the workers themselves and even scientists personally against the scheme but having no choice to work with them to try and monitor and minimize damage.

I didn’t really have any real understanding of what was going on until last week when it hit me right in the face from 7am-6pm every day out the front of our place and dust starting coming into our home and then I realized just how big a project it was and my first thought was to complain about the superficial annoyances and even our phone line kept dropping out and wasn’t sure if that was their work interference. It started to make me think for the first time about finding out about it all first hand. My first thought was they need to compensate us by improving the road and my next thought was how will this impact value of property around here. Then when I found out in NSW compensation is out of the question for public works regardless of no betterment beyond the greater good. I started to question the greater good and that is when I realized after reading many differing reports and looking closer into this scheme that it wasn’t for the greater good either. It was no longer about my backyard but about the reserve down the way which is such a special place and no amount of community compensation could fix. So I decided to protest because this has really managed to get to me to the point where I’m willing to be ridiculed so maybe one voice of disapproval will tip the overwhelming BIG SELL they’ve been throwing at us for months. Basically I finally saw through all the BS and no longer became about my personal inconvenience because the dust and noise have since settled down as they move down the road and my phone is working fine. What I’m trying to achieve is letting out the truth about these transfer scheme as not being a good idea for anyone involved except in the short term creating jobs.

None of the people working on the project look locals in the eye, it is well known and felt many locals are against this scheme. When I went for a walk last week I met with a woman who has lived here 25 years and just felt sadness and upset by the whole thing. You get attached to the incredible beauty of the Reserve and to think it will be plundered by unnecessary water transfers is heartbreaking.

If I thought there was no other way to solve Canberra’s water shortage during a drought then I could understand completely and support using measures to minimize damage like any public work which goes ahead in the name of progress and sustainability. But when the public work has proven a failure in the past and the bad far outweighs the good and there are many other options available why should I stand by when I know in my heart and mind what they are doing is wrong?

chewy14 chewy14 6:29 pm 10 Dec 11

Ceam,
I don’t think you could give a better NIMBY post than your last.
Congratulations, textbook stuff.

You do realise that the pipeline is underground right?

Compensation for some dust? LOL.

patrick_keogh patrick_keogh 9:18 pm 10 Dec 11

Your case would be strengthened if you didn’t resort to hyperbole. Representing Canberrans as having four showers a day only make people think that you are loose with the truth about everything else. I can see from your video that you are upset but you won’t get too many others onside to your cause with hysteria. You say there are “many other good options”. What are they? You say that piping water in is never a success. Tell that to Kalgourlie. Tell that to the beneficiaries of the SWRP in Queensland. Tell it to the people of Adelaide. They will laugh in your face.

So learn to put your case in a more reasoned way and you may get a better hearing. Until then you just seem like a NIMBY.

Oldborough Oldborough 8:09 am 11 Dec 11

Charlotte does not represent the majority of locals, most of whom either have no objection to the pipeline, or couldn’t care less one way or the other. As for not knowing about the pipeline, where has Charlotte been for the last 5 or 6 years during which ACTEW has been conducting community consultation? The drought wreaked havoc on the Burra Creek and the flora and fauna that depend on it. Many people are glad to know that reliable water will return to the creek despite any future droughts. Perhaps Charlotte did not see the flood last year, after the last drought broke. It ripped through the creek, taking bridges, trees, fences, creek banks and huge boulders in its wake. Compared to the amount of water nature can (and usually does after each drought) dump into the creekk, the pipeline flow will be a mere trickle.

Postalgeek Postalgeek 8:59 am 11 Dec 11

patrick_keogh said :

Your case would be strengthened if you didn’t resort to hyperbole. Representing Canberrans as having four showers a day only make people think that you are loose with the truth about everything else. I can see from your video that you are upset but you won’t get too many others onside to your cause with hysteria. You say there are “many other good options”. What are they? You say that piping water in is never a success. Tell that to Kalgourlie. Tell that to the beneficiaries of the SWRP in Queensland. Tell it to the people of Adelaide. They will laugh in your face.

So learn to put your case in a more reasoned way and you may get a better hearing. Until then you just seem like a NIMBY.

1 What he said. Eco systems have enough problems without half-baked NIMBYs going in to bat for them.

ceam said :

Everyone has a right to their say and debating such issues should not entertain personal attacks..

What did you conceivably expect would happen when you posted an absolutely stupid comment on the Internet about people an intelligent activist would seek to get onside (3-4 showers a day? Really?).

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