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Government job.. from part time to fulltime?

By starking - 30 June 2010 33

Hey guys.. I have just landed a Government job which is a part time position. I wanted to get a fulltime job all along, but this part time position was, by far, the best I could get. I didn’t come to realize that, all the benefits which the fulltimers enjoy (things like flex leave…) doesn’t apply to my part time position until I signed the offer.

Any chance that they will offer me a fulltime position along the way? Or they tend to hire some new guys, if any fulltime positions become available and I will always stay as a part time?

So should I just leave this part time job and seek a proper fulltime job for now?

What’s Your opinion?


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Government job.. from part time to fulltime?
vg 10:52 pm 30 Jun 10

starking said :

thanks everyone. I think I will stay in the current position and locate another part time role to increase my income in order to support my living…. until any fulltime roles become available. finger crossed!

OzChick said :

Is it permanent? Just go for it. I had to be a contractor for a least a year before I was able to get a permanent position in the public service. Is it ACT Govt? There is a freeze so any chances of promotion in the ACT Public Service are slim atm.

Is Ongoing = Permanent? It’s written as ongoing employment
and it said Australian Government, does it mean Federal Government or ACT government?
sorry this is my very first govt job and I am kinda confused with all these..

yes I heard about the freeze in recruitment and cutting down of some departments too…. some also said the Governemnt will start hiring again in Aug, hopefully.

You have no idea who you work for or the terms of your employment?

My guess is that you aren’t splitting atoms at the CSIRO

“All power to flexible workplaces, but flex time – and the notion that one should spend the same number of minutes in one’s chair every week – should be abolished. If managers want to measure productivity, how about they look at the actual quality, and quantity, of work produced.”

Yeah, screw ’em. Make them work 80hrs a week until you fit their definition of productive.

WillowJim 10:21 pm 30 Jun 10

The problem with “flex time” is that it assumes that public servants’ productivity can be measured by the minutes they spend in their office. What rubbish.

All power to flexible workplaces, but flex time – and the notion that one should spend the same number of minutes in one’s chair every week – should be abolished. If managers want to measure productivity, how about they look at the actual quality, and quantity, of work produced.

s-s-a 9:10 pm 30 Jun 10

You have the job and you don’t know whether it’s Fed or ACT govt???

If you decide to leave the part-time job please post here as I am getting flicked from most of the full-time processes I apply for because I am not wanting to work full-time.

sexynotsmart 8:04 pm 30 Jun 10

Re: flexible hours, talk about it with your tech lead or line manager or whatever you call the person who has day-to-day control of your soul.

I had 2 part-timers in my team-before-last. We may or may not have sorted out arrangements that may not or may not have strictly complied with the HR documentation.

NickD 7:05 pm 30 Jun 10

starking said :

Is Ongoing = Permanent? It’s written as ongoing employment
and it said Australian Government, does it mean Federal Government or ACT government?
sorry this is my very first govt job and I am kinda confused with all these..

Yes, ‘ongoing’ is APS-code for ‘permanent’. The Commonwealth/Federal Government is now normally called the Australian Government.

Congratulations on the job by the way – I hope that it works out well.

starking 7:02 pm 30 Jun 10

thanks everyone. I think I will stay in the current position and locate another part time role to increase my income in order to support my living…. until any fulltime roles become available. finger crossed!

OzChick said :

Is it permanent? Just go for it. I had to be a contractor for a least a year before I was able to get a permanent position in the public service. Is it ACT Govt? There is a freeze so any chances of promotion in the ACT Public Service are slim atm.

Is Ongoing = Permanent? It’s written as ongoing employment
and it said Australian Government, does it mean Federal Government or ACT government?
sorry this is my very first govt job and I am kinda confused with all these..

yes I heard about the freeze in recruitment and cutting down of some departments too…. some also said the Governemnt will start hiring again in Aug, hopefully.

OzChick 5:16 pm 30 Jun 10

Is it permanent? Just go for it. I had to be a contractor for a least a year before I was able to get a permanent position in the public service. Is it ACT Govt? There is a freeze so any chances of promotion in the ACT Public Service are slim atm.

p1 5:13 pm 30 Jun 10

ProudTenant said :

Flex days? Who still gets those?

Aah, of course. Mostly the ACT Government pubes.

…and most Commonwealth public servants. And many private employees (in practice even if not in name).

The only people I know these days that don’t have flexible hours are those where the nature of the job doesn’t allow it (shop has to be open, bus has to be driven etc). Where the hell do you work?

ProudTenant 4:31 pm 30 Jun 10

Flex days? Who still gets those?

Aah, of course. Mostly the ACT Government pubes.

The Frots 4:19 pm 30 Jun 10

Read all the comments above if you read nothing else…………….and stay there!!!

forgoodnessake 3:52 pm 30 Jun 10

At the moment there are massive recruitment freezes across most govt departments. Stick with what you have. Now that you are in, it will be sooo much easier to move onto something else when it becomes available.

You probably should have sussed out that sort of thing before you jumped in but anyway. Good on you for getting your foot in, much harder these days!

sepi 3:24 pm 30 Jun 10

Usually part time jobs are harder to get, and attract more applicants, as parents of young kids are desperate for part time work. Unless the hours are really strange? In fact, usually, part time work can still include flex time.

Anyway – I would stay in your job, and tell them you are keen for full time, and don’t complain about your current job to you bosses. I don’t see why they would hire new people at part time instead of you.

georgesgenitals 2:06 pm 30 Jun 10

Why would you leave a job to look for another. Start with this one, and if it’s not what you want, keep looking. Hell, it’s only part time, not like you won’t have time!

trix 1:57 pm 30 Jun 10

I’m afraid it’s a bit tricky to look into our crystal balls to see whether Division X in Department Y is going to require a full-time staffer at any time in the future. One thing is that if you perform well, if such a position does open up, you’d be first in line with the offer.

I suggest you spend this initial period demonstrating your capabilities and building up some appreciation of your work ethic and skills, then, if you get a positive review (or even not), in the next 3-6 months, have a chat to your manager and ask if there is any likelihood of a full-time role.

And there’s nothing to stop you from keeping your eye open now for jobs that are more suitable – i.e. full-time, unless of course you’re on a fixed-term contract. I would certainly recommend lining up your next job BEFORE jumping from your current one.

DeadlySchnauzer 1:56 pm 30 Jun 10

If this is your first government job then getting your foot in the door with part time and moving to full time later is the way to go. This is in fact probably the standard way people do things… its much more difficult to go straight into a full time position.

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