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Governor-General, please dissolve the ACT Government [With Poll]

PantsMan 21 October 2013 71

Quite frankly, I’ve had enough of Katy, Barr, Corbell, and that court jester Rattenbury. They have surely got to be the most irresponsible, dangerous, and seemingly unaccountable excuse for a government within the Australian Federation.

They appear to have largely abandoned any attempt to effectively deliver the core governmental services for which they are actually responsible, such as healthcare and policing. Or they are simply incapable of so delivering. When they have attempted to do anything in these areas they have almost universally been absolute scandalous disasters. For example, Katy Gallagher, as Health Minister, presided over the falsification of health statistics by a family associate; falsification which seemingly had the effect of defrauding the Commonwealth of otherwise forgone incentive payments. If this had happened in NSW, they would all be before ICAC. And now we hear we have the worst health system in the country.

Shane Rattenbury demanded that Katy, Barr, and Corbell, in return for continuing in power, sign up to build a $700 – $860 million Capital Metro Project (with your taxes) that has no business case, no cost benefit analysis, no passenger number projections, and no hope or chance of either being delivered on time or ever making any money (even given appropriate levels of subsidy to take in non-financial considerations).

Corbell, seemingly at the behest of Barr, has decided to enact legislation patently beyond the power of the ACT Legislative Assembly in order to politically wedge the Abbott Federal Government (something which they did not consider necessary to do to the former Rudd/Gillard/Rudd Governments) and bring on a High Court challenge; which they will defend with millions of dollars of your money.

The only growth industry in the ACT is the ‘human rights’ industry; that consists of the ACT Government paying human rights lawyers (who often seem to be connected to ACT Labor) to comment upon and advise upon endless harebrained schemes that are largely aimed at correcting non-problems, while anyone who ever tries to evoke their purported human rights (often against the ACT Government itself) discovers they have none. (Don’t worry, the ACT Government pays more human rights lawyers to write up summaries of how you, in fact, have no human rights.) Meanwhile, our $100 million human rights compliant jail is full, and inmates are having their human rights violated by the ACT Government.

* ACTEW executive pay and sponsorship scandal — no one told Katy and Barr (asleep at the wheel).

* Highest utilities prices in the country, used as a quasi-tax by Katy and Co.

* Banning plastic shopping bags.

* $5,500 fines for leaving a shopping trolley in the street.

The list goes on.

Under the ACT Self Government Act, the Governor-General has the power to call an end to this madness and appoint a Commissioner to conduct the affairs of the ACT. The provision is as follows:

Dissolution of Assembly by Governor-General
(1) If, in the opinion of the Governor-General, the Assembly:

(a) is incapable of effectively performing its functions; or

(b) is conducting its affairs in a grossly improper manner;

the Governor-General may dissolve the Assembly.

(2) Where the Assembly is dissolved:

(a) the Governor-General:

(i) shall appoint a Commissioner for the purposes of this section; and

(ii) may, at any time, give directions to the Commissioner about the exercise of the powers of the Executive; and

Given all this, should the Federal Government advise the Governor-General dissolve the ACT Legislative Assembly and end this chaos:

Should the Federal Government advise the Governor-General dissolve the ACT Legislative Assembly

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bikhet bikhet 3:15 pm 21 Oct 13

housebound said :

My personal preference would be for governments of all flavours to be limited to two terms so avoid those terrible third-term behaviours. It stops our overlords from getting that little bit too cosy. Sorry if that’s too right wing for you.

You can apply term limits to the members who make up a government, but not to the government itself. If you tried to do the latter the existing members could simply form a new party and get themselves re-elected.

While I’m generally in favour of term limits for members, though I recognise that there are problems with this, limiting the number of terms a member can serve won’t necessarily change the govenrment.

IrishPete IrishPete 3:11 pm 21 Oct 13

housebound said :

IrishPete said :

housebound said :

Let’s face it, the current mob believe they are untouchable and have earnt the derisive label of ‘born to rule’. We have become a one-party state in which there is close to no accountability, except on gay marriage and plastic bans.

Oh Lordy, another one of the right-wing “born to rule” types (who tries to confuse the issue by saying it’s the other side who are born to rule), but get this, they can’t count to two either!

How many more of them are there? It’s like shooting fish in barrel (though I don’t recommend that without the appropriate safety gear).

IP

So only one side of politics can believe it is the natural rules (also expressed as born to rule)? Interesting view, but obviously easier to insult someone than engage with the argument. Maybe the jibe about gay marriage and plastic bag bans distracted you. If so, I apologise for introducing distractions.

My personal preference would be for governments of all flavours to be limited to two terms so avoid those terrible third-term behaviours. It stops our overlords from getting that little bit too cosy. Sorry if that’s too right wing for you.

Let me explain – in Australia’s democracy, the group that wins the most seats forms the government. When they can’t do it on their own, they form a coalition (like the Liberals and Nationals across Australia). The group or groups who then complain that actually they won the election, are the ones who have the “born to rule” attitude, because the government was actually elected to rule.

Every ALP supporter I know has accepted the result of the federal election with good grace. Contrast that with Abbott’s whingeing for the last three years, with his arse apparently not being an attractive enough purchase for anyone to want to help him form government.

Anyway, you seem to have completely missed my point: Greens + Labor = two parties, not one. Try counting them on your fingers if that helps.

IP

housebound housebound 2:44 pm 21 Oct 13

IrishPete said :

housebound said :

Let’s face it, the current mob believe they are untouchable and have earnt the derisive label of ‘born to rule’. We have become a one-party state in which there is close to no accountability, except on gay marriage and plastic bans.

Oh Lordy, another one of the right-wing “born to rule” types (who tries to confuse the issue by saying it’s the other side who are born to rule), but get this, they can’t count to two either!

How many more of them are there? It’s like shooting fish in barrel (though I don’t recommend that without the appropriate safety gear).

IP

So only one side of politics can believe it is the natural rules (also expressed as born to rule)? Interesting view, but obviously easier to insult someone than engage with the argument. Maybe the jibe about gay marriage and plastic bag bans distracted you. If so, I apologise for introducing distractions.

My personal preference would be for governments of all flavours to be limited to two terms so avoid those terrible third-term behaviours. It stops our overlords from getting that little bit too cosy. Sorry if that’s too right wing for you.

IrishPete IrishPete 2:33 pm 21 Oct 13

housebound said :

Let’s face it, the current mob believe they are untouchable and have earnt the derisive label of ‘born to rule’. We have become a one-party state in which there is close to no accountability, except on gay marriage and plastic bans.

Oh Lordy, another one of the right-wing “born to rule” types (who tries to confuse the issue by saying it’s the other side who are born to rule), but get this, they can’t count to two either!

How many more of them are there? It’s like shooting fish in barrel (though I don’t recommend that without the appropriate safety gear).

IP

IrishPete IrishPete 2:29 pm 21 Oct 13

Spiral said :

IrishPete said :

No, if it is subsidised then by definition it is not profitable, unless the subsidy is less than the profit, which then begs the question why it is subsidised.

IP

With international trade it is possible for a government to subsidise an industry so that it can sell its products cheaper than those from other nations and for the volume of product sold to be sufficient that profits more than cover the cost of the subsidy.

It’s not a profit if it’s a government handout. And it’s not covering the cost of the subsidy unless it gets given back to the government, plus interest. Economics like these are what is making the rich richer and sending the rest of the world bust.

IP

mabinogi mabinogi 2:19 pm 21 Oct 13

thebrownstreak69 said :

I’ve said before and I’ll say again that I think focussing on things like plastic bag bans, gay marriage and human rights is a ridiculous waste of resources in a place like Canberra.

Just out of interest, how much money do you think is actually being wasted on the plastic bag ban, now that it’s in force, and has been operating for a couple of years?

If your opposition to it is that it’s ridiculous to waste time on such matters, then why are you bringing it up, since it’s a done deal? Isn’t that wasting more time on it?

Pork Hunt Pork Hunt 2:19 pm 21 Oct 13

scoot said :

thebrownstreak69 said :

scoot said :

Eh.. in the grand scheme of things, the ACT government has been decidedly less wasteful than other governments. I think of examples like Victoria’s Myki project cost and the federal scrapping of the NBN, all in the name of roads, of all things.

The ACT government has done a lot of good things, though, like banning plastic shopping bags, moving on a proposal for gay marriage, fines for leaving shopping trolleys around.. the list goes on!

I, along with most people <30 in the ACT, would vote the same government back in.

I thought this was meant to be sarcastic (and it should have been) until I read the last sentence.

I’m always open to ideas and suggestions, but flippantly disregarding another’s opinion, as you did mine, is generally not constructive.

Do you have something constructive to say or are just here for slander?

You’re new here, aren’t you?

Spiral Spiral 2:17 pm 21 Oct 13

IrishPete said :

No, if it is subsidised then by definition it is not profitable, unless the subsidy is less than the profit, which then begs the question why it is subsidised.

IP

With international trade it is possible for a government to subsidise an industry so that it can sell its products cheaper than those from other nations and for the volume of product sold to be sufficient that profits more than cover the cost of the subsidy.

housebound housebound 2:15 pm 21 Oct 13

The aim – to remove an arrogant government – is fine. The mechanism? Not so much.

Let’s face it, the current mob believe they are untouchable and have earnt the derisive label of ‘born to rule’. We have become a one-party state in which there is close to no accountability, except on gay marriage and plastic bans.

Almost all governments do great things in their first term. The second term is usually ok, but they can get cocky. The third term is where the arrogance sets in, and that is the situation we now have.

Woody Mann-Caruso Woody Mann-Caruso 2:11 pm 21 Oct 13

Just last week I saw two gay trolleys consumating their marriage using a plastic bag as a prophylactic.

I think one of them was a boat trolley.

Bring on the Rapture.

IrishPete IrishPete 1:58 pm 21 Oct 13

neanderthalsis said :

IrishPete said :

Oh dear, PantsMan is confused “no hope or chance of either being delivered on time or ever making any money (even given appropriate levels of subsidy to take in non-financial considerations).” Which is to be, subsidised or profitable? It can’t be both?

One only has to look at agricultural production in the EU or Japan to see evidence of heavily subsidised industries that are also quite profitable. I don’t think our dodgy one track tram system that will only link the city centre to one small urban centre will ever be profitable though.

No, if it is subsidised then by definition it is not profitable, unless the subsidy is less than the profit, which then begs the question why it is subsidised.

This is even more the case if it is government operated, because then it is one arm of the government subsidising another arm.

IP

Robertson Robertson 1:52 pm 21 Oct 13

Deref said :

I agree with pretty much everything there. The problem is that the alternative would be far, far worse.

Exactly.

And yet a few of them are falling all over each other to provide apologist nonsense in favour of the utter failures we currently have running our town council.

Worst healthcare, worst uptake of public schooling, and the best they can do is sit around their offices fiddling with laws that are none of their business with blatantly ego-driven self-aggrandisement in mind.

Heavs Heavs 1:36 pm 21 Oct 13

pierce said :

I read that Katy Gallagher was also secretly born in Kenya

WHERE IS THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE. WHY IS SHE HIDING IT?!??!!

Thumper Thumper 1:28 pm 21 Oct 13

wildturkeycanoe said :

Ok Pantsman, who would you like in the government then? Options are a bit limited unless you want some extreme thinking folk who wouldn’t know where the keys to this Territory are kept, let alone how to drive it.

I’m happy to be a benevolent dictator…..

Pedrose Pedrose 1:04 pm 21 Oct 13

Library fines are getting pretty steep, too.

Objective Objective 12:57 pm 21 Oct 13

Ahahahahahahahhaha

Oh wait….you’re serious? Let me laugh some more. Ahahahahahahahahha

wildturkeycanoe wildturkeycanoe 12:56 pm 21 Oct 13

Ok Pantsman, who would you like in the government then? Options are a bit limited unless you want some extreme thinking folk who wouldn’t know where the keys to this Territory are kept, let alone how to drive it.

pierce pierce 12:54 pm 21 Oct 13

I read that Katy Gallagher was also secretly born in Kenya

thebrownstreak69 thebrownstreak69 12:50 pm 21 Oct 13

scoot said :

thebrownstreak69 said :

scoot said :

Eh.. in the grand scheme of things, the ACT government has been decidedly less wasteful than other governments. I think of examples like Victoria’s Myki project cost and the federal scrapping of the NBN, all in the name of roads, of all things.

The ACT government has done a lot of good things, though, like banning plastic shopping bags, moving on a proposal for gay marriage, fines for leaving shopping trolleys around.. the list goes on!

I, along with most people <30 in the ACT, would vote the same government back in.

I thought this was meant to be sarcastic (and it should have been) until I read the last sentence.

I’m always open to ideas and suggestions, but flippantly disregarding another’s opinion, as you did mine, is generally not constructive.

Do you have something constructive to say or are just here for slander?

I’ve said before and I’ll say again that I think focussing on things like plastic bag bans, gay marriage and human rights is a ridiculous waste of resources in a place like Canberra. We have big problems with health, education and are struggling with infrastructure. The govt should be focussing on getting core service delivery right first before wasting our time on fringe issues.

That’s my 2 cents. It’s different from yours, so now it’s your turn to have a go at me!

Silentforce Silentforce 12:43 pm 21 Oct 13

Just as well that the rest of Australia had their lights on when they went to the poll.

(Apologies to those of you from Bruce and Jerra’).

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