5 August 2009

Greens call for buggering up Canberra Avenue

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The Greens’ Meredith Hunter is taking a swing at the residents of Queanbeyan and their filthy motorised personal transit into our fair city every day:

    The ACT Greens have called for the Chief Minister and Queanbeyan Mayor to agree on the need for bus/taxi priority signals along Canberra Avenue.

    “Over 60 percent of Queanbeyan City workers commute to the ACT, and the fact that the vast majority use a private motor vehicle has real impact on parking, congestion and emissions.” ACT Greens Parliamentary Convenor, Meredith Hunter MLA said today.

    “There’s an opportunity for a fresh start with a new Mayor over the border and the Chief Minister taking back the Transport portfolio.”

    “We’re hoping for some concrete results to come out of this meeting and the Greens would look to support investment in sustainable transit between the two cities.” Ms Hunter said.

    Greens Transport Spokesperson, Amanda Bresnan MLA has identified priority signals as the logical first step to improving transit between the two cities.

Well, it’s not as if they vote here.

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MsCheeky said :

youami said :

GregW said :

behavior?

GregW please try and spell English Australian, it so erks me when people get it wrong!

Yeah, I think it irks a lot of people.

Don’t you hate it when your rant to someone about their grammar is wrong in itself… and I can’t blame a typo as the keys are not next to each other… 🙂 I think I irk myself here!

youami said :

GregW said :

behavior?

GregW please try and spell English Australian, it so erks me when people get it wrong!

Yeah, I think it irks a lot of people.

GregW said :

behavior?

GregW please try and spell English Australian, it so erks me when people get it wrong!

Sgt.Bungers said :

Extending the train line from Kingston to the CBD would be a far more ffcnt (shortened from efficient… I eliminated the vowels to save time) option in regards to moving large numbers of people, IMHO, albeit far, far more expensive and complicated. Plus it would be essential for the trains to be quicker, cheaper and generally more convenient than private transport, which could be tricky on a single line track? Double the track, insanely expensive again.

With one of the best private transport networks in the world… ACT GovCo would be better off encouraging people to switch to smaller, more viable forms of private transport. I’ve seen one or two motorbikes in Canberra. It’s a shame that they’re generally viewed as a novelty/annoyance in this country, rather than a compact, cheap and sensible form of private transport, as they are everywhere else in the world.

The line did in fact go right through to the city before the great floods that washed away the causeway over the Molonglo and they never rebuilt it. The solution, if not car and if not bike and if not bus, is probably more towards light-rail over heavy-rail but the problem is Queanbeyan does not have the population to support such a regular frequent system. Belco: ~90,000, Tuggers: ~80,000, Gungahlin: ~70,000 and growing, Queanbeyan: ~40,000. Oh well… back to the car.

I believe that removing a lane of traffic and making it only for busses plus added in extra traffic lights on a road will actually not decrease congestion…
I dunno… something about halving the amount of lanes and adding in more stops…

buggering up Canberra Avenue

It’s already buggered…

i read the title for this post and thought the greens had gone all clever with pseudonyms for one’s behind…

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy7:36 am 06 Aug 09

Up The Duffy said :

Paint half the road off for a cycle lane too, fit healthy NS Welshmen are welcome to commute here to work. The fatties can stay on the other side, as they may be lazy.

There’s already a cycle path the entire way.

Besides, if you make it too hard Queanbeyan residents might not come to work in Canberra. And these people are, after all, the brains of Canberra.

Extending the train line from Kingston to the CBD would be a far more ffcnt (shortened from efficient… I eliminated the vowels to save time) option in regards to moving large numbers of people, IMHO, albeit far, far more expensive and complicated. Plus it would be essential for the trains to be quicker, cheaper and generally more convenient than private transport, which could be tricky on a single line track? Double the track, insanely expensive again.

With one of the best private transport networks in the world… ACT GovCo would be better off encouraging people to switch to smaller, more viable forms of private transport. I’ve seen one or two motorbikes in Canberra. It’s a shame that they’re generally viewed as a novelty/annoyance in this country, rather than a compact, cheap and sensible form of private transport, as they are everywhere else in the world.

They can catch a train from Queanbeyan to Canberra station.

Up The Duffy10:58 pm 05 Aug 09

Paint half the road off for a cycle lane too, fit healthy NS Welshmen are welcome to commute here to work. The fatties can stay on the other side, as they may be lazy.

They pay for parking, which according to other recent statements by the government, is priced according to its cost/as a social engineering experiment to discourage people driving their cars.

Thoroughly Smashed9:51 pm 05 Aug 09

“Greens call for buggering up Canberra Avenue”

Bus/taxi priority signals doesn’t mean bus lanes, it just means a few more seconds waiting for that precious green.

if they were serious about fixing the transport, the NSW and ACT government would negotiate to have a reciprical arrangements for bus travel between the city and the hole. It’s about $11 a trip on a Deanes bus from what I’ve been told, I wouldn’t want to pay that. I think Amanda has got her figures mixed up too, I’m pretty sure she was referring to the unemployment rate of Queanbeyan when she said 60%.

Queanbeyan is a filthy mess.

something that actually resembles a bus service would be a very good start.

The numbers of NSW drivers traveling to Civic during morning peak hour would suggest a significant number of public servant / retail / white collar workers.

Given that the ACT’s bus services are subsidised by taxes incurred (mostly) by ACT residents, shouldn’t the NSW government be responsible for improving the frequency / appeal of public transport?

An alternative could be toll roads at the border, funds raised go to public transport. The toll is varied to achieve the desired mix of public / private passengers. Is it naive to think this would change behavior?

Priority bus lanes for the what, one bus per half hour from Queanbeyan?

To stereotype, aren’t most Queanbeyan workers in blue collar trades that are geographically dispersed?
The transport problems between the cities is a bit more complex than getting pubes from Gunghalin to the City (priority bus signals on Flemington rd and Northbourne ave)

Greens need to stop smoking the green stuff and actually think.

I call for the introduction of “Y” priority signals for cars with ACT plates 😉

Calwell Resident4:51 pm 05 Aug 09

Do you mean the Greens. Good idea.

Can’t we build a giant wall around the city to keep them out?

really long bike lanes?

Before they install any priority they better improve the bus network to make it a viable alternative. Without that any priority will be a waste of money and not acheive anything.

Holden Caulfield4:18 pm 05 Aug 09

Concrete results, hey! I hope that’s eco-friendly concrete Hunter is referring to.

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