11 August 2012

Guess what colour the Commodore in the police pursuit was?

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ACT Policing has arrested a 24-year-old Dunlop man following a vehicle pursuit in Belconnen yesterday afternoon (Friday, August 10).

Around 2.20pm Belconnen Patrol members were conducting a mobile patrol along Kuringa Drive when they saw a white Holden Commodore travelling at excessive speed.

Police activated their lights and sirens attempting a traffic stop on the vehicle, however the vehicle failed to stop and a pursuit commenced.

The pursuit travelled past several Belconnen suburbs before being terminated by the Belconnen Patrol.

A short time later members of the public flagged down another patrol and advised a vehicle, matching the description of the car involved in the pursuit, had collided with a wooden retaining wall in their front yard. The car sustained some minor damage before driving off.

The vehicle, which is suspected to be stolen, was located several streets away with a flat tyre.

A man matching the description of the driver was located a short distance away. He had the keys to the car in his possession and was a disqualified driver.

A maximum speed of 160 km/h was reached during the pursuit which lasted for 1 minute and 19 seconds.

The man was charged with driving while disqualified and several traffic offences. He received Watch House bail to appear in the ACT Magistrates Court on Tuesday, August 21 2012.

[Courtesy ACT Policing]

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screaming banshee11:07 am 13 Aug 12

HenryBG said :

screaming banshee said :

HenryBG said :

Driving a car around suburban roads at 160km/h is attempted murder.

What about driving a car around suburban roads blind drunk Henry, should that driver be shot too?

Probably, although you appear to be,

a/ changing the subject
and,
b/ somewhat confused between the concepts of “exceeding a proscribed BAC” and “being blind drunk”.

But I don’t generally come on here expecting too much evidence of intelligent life.

So somewhere between not under the influence of alcohol at all and being blind drunk there is a point at which it becomes unacceptable to Henry, geez if only there was some sort of body that represented the community as a whole that could set some sort of level in that range as being the unacceptable level.

Heck, I’d reckon they could even base is on some of that there science stuff you read about in all the papers.

VYBerlinaV8_is_back9:23 am 13 Aug 12

screaming banshee said :

astrojax said :

i blame society; and white car paint manufacturers…

(back in my day it was white kingswoods, but i’m an old fart…)

I’d be pretty certain it was brown kingswoods….or the more upmarket Premier

I had a red kingswood wagon once. 160km/h in that thing was the stuff dreams were made of (as in, you might approach 160km/h if you pushed it off a very tall cliff).

screaming banshee said :

HenryBG said :

Driving a car around suburban roads at 160km/h is attempted murder.

What about driving a car around suburban roads blind drunk Henry, should that driver be shot too?

Probably, although you appear to be,

a/ changing the subject
and,
b/ somewhat confused between the concepts of “exceeding a proscribed BAC” and “being blind drunk”.

But I don’t generally come on here expecting too much evidence of intelligent life.

Deckard said :

I think you’ll find Henry’s mind is full of contradictions…

It’s quite amazing to watch isn’t it? Every idea or theory he brings out is almost always directly contradicted by another one of his thoughts.

Sometimes he even argues against himself in the same thread.

It’s a toss-up between him and Mr G as to who is the resident nutter here.

KeenGolfer said :

KB1971 said :

Last I saw, doing 160km/h wasnt a criminal offence.

You didn’t check very well. It’s called drive manner dangerous/reckless. Max 1yr imprisonment and/or $11k fine.

According to this: http://www.legislation.act.gov.au/sl/2005-11/current/pdf/2005-11.pdf its 6 points & then $1811 fine.

When you then run from the coppers a criminal offence is added but the speeding act in itself is not a criminal offence. I would definately be interested to see if anyone who was caught at that speed who pulled over when instructed was actually charged with anything else.

Disclaimer: I did not look further into that document as I did not have time this morning.

screaming banshee2:00 am 13 Aug 12

astrojax said :

i blame society; and white car paint manufacturers…

(back in my day it was white kingswoods, but i’m an old fart…)

I’d be pretty certain it was brown kingswoods….or the more upmarket Premier

screaming banshee said :

HenryBG said :

Driving a car around suburban roads at 160km/h is attempted murder.

What about driving a car around suburban roads blind drunk Henry, should that driver be shot too?

I think you’ll find Henry’s mind is full of contradictions…

KeenGolfer said :

KB1971 said :

Last I saw, doing 160km/h wasnt a criminal offence.

You didn’t check very well. It’s called drive manner dangerous/reckless. Max 1yr imprisonment and/or $11k fine.

Only one year that’s interesting given in NSW and SA for example it’s a max of 3 years for first offence and 5 years for aggravated offence.

PrinceOfAles9:16 pm 12 Aug 12

tg_703 said :

Perhaps something similar to NSWs’ ‘Skye Law’ ought to be introduced here in the ACT…..or do we need a tragedy to occur first, as it did in NSW?

We`ve had more than enough tragedies here. 3 in the last 7 years or so should be more than enough to prove to the law makers that tougher action is required.

i blame society; and white car paint manufacturers…

(back in my day it was white kingswoods, but i’m an old fart…)

Perhaps something similar to NSWs’ ‘Skye Law’ ought to be introduced here in the ACT…..or do we need a tragedy to occur first, as it did in NSW?

KB1971 said :

Last I saw, doing 160km/h wasnt a criminal offence.

You didn’t check very well. It’s called drive manner dangerous/reckless. Max 1yr imprisonment and/or $11k fine.

screaming banshee5:53 pm 12 Aug 12

HenryBG said :

Driving a car around suburban roads at 160km/h is attempted murder.

What about driving a car around suburban roads blind drunk Henry, should that driver be shot too?

HenryBG said :

KB1971 said :

Mr Gillespie said :

KB1971 said :

farnarkler said :

FFS why can’t we have the death penalty for oxygen thieves like this. A .22 calibre bullet is so much cheaper than court cases and jailtime.

Can you find Bill & Ted, jump into their time machine & go back to the century you came from?

Why do you need a time machine to get proper justice?

Why am I not surprised you piped up?

So, you think that someone who has comitted a minor crime needs to be shot?

Skewed sense of punishment much?

It’s not a minor crime.

Driving a car around suburban roads at 160km/h is attempted murder.

I fully agree that he should be shot. End of problem.

Are you Mr Gillespie’s other personality?

Last I saw, doing 160km/h wasnt a criminal offence.

Felix the Cat said :

farnarkler said :

KB1971 people like you are the reason we have people who commit crimes like this. This individual was already a disqualified driver, therefore had previously commited a crime. The fact that he tried to evade the police is evidence of his blatant disregard for the law.

I wonder how you would feel if, during his 160km/h jaunt, he’d rounded a corner and hit and killed one of your relatives. Would you feel so lenient then? I really despise do-gooders like you who think we should give scum like this playstations and soothing counselling sessions, etc.

But he DIDN’T round the corner and hit or kill anyone. You can’t go around punishing people for actions/crimes they didn’t commit. Sue the guy was breaking the law by speeding, evading the police, driving while disqualified and numerous other offences but he didn’t injure or kill anyone. The potential was there of course but he didn’t do it. It’s like charging someone for armed robbery just because they own a gun.

Or being a prostitute because they have a fanny…

KB1971 said :

Mr Gillespie said :

KB1971 said :

farnarkler said :

FFS why can’t we have the death penalty for oxygen thieves like this. A .22 calibre bullet is so much cheaper than court cases and jailtime.

Can you find Bill & Ted, jump into their time machine & go back to the century you came from?

Why do you need a time machine to get proper justice?

Why am I not surprised you piped up?

So, you think that someone who has comitted a minor crime needs to be shot?

Skewed sense of punishment much?

It’s not a minor crime.

Driving a car around suburban roads at 160km/h is attempted murder.

I fully agree that he should be shot. End of problem.

Felix the Cat said :

It’s like charging someone for armed robbery just because they own a gun.

Ummm no.

It is like firing a gun in the suburbs. Which is against the law.

Your argument that no-one was hurt would be like a shooter who had lost his licence going into his backyard and shooting. If he doesn’t hurt anyone there apparently wouldn’t be a real crime and he shouldn’t be punished for what might happen.

Felix the Cat2:51 pm 12 Aug 12

farnarkler said :

KB1971 people like you are the reason we have people who commit crimes like this. This individual was already a disqualified driver, therefore had previously commited a crime. The fact that he tried to evade the police is evidence of his blatant disregard for the law.

I wonder how you would feel if, during his 160km/h jaunt, he’d rounded a corner and hit and killed one of your relatives. Would you feel so lenient then? I really despise do-gooders like you who think we should give scum like this playstations and soothing counselling sessions, etc.

But he DIDN’T round the corner and hit or kill anyone. You can’t go around punishing people for actions/crimes they didn’t commit. Sue the guy was breaking the law by speeding, evading the police, driving while disqualified and numerous other offences but he didn’t injure or kill anyone. The potential was there of course but he didn’t do it. It’s like charging someone for armed robbery just because they own a gun.

farnarkler said :

KB1971 your redneck comment was weak as piss but your latest post is legitimate. Ok I might have been a bit over the top with wanting this individual shot, HOWEVER, you must agree that we are sick, sick, sick of hearing about scum, who think the law doesn’t apply to them commit crime, go to court, do a crocodile tear job about how bad their lives have been and get off with a suspended sentence from a weaker than piss judiciary and then go and commit more crime.

I’ll bet this individual won’t give a flying f*ck about the pathetic punishment he’ll receive. I’ll bet he’ll laugh about it over a case of Tooheys with his mates.

How about the Singaporean punishment of caning? Not lethal but certainly hurts like f*ck! My real point is that if the punishment is severe enough, a person may think twice before commiting a crime.

Your comment got the contempt it deserved.

You made a massive & incorrect assumption that I was a civil libitarian who thinking no one should be punished.

Realistically, we dont live in a society that deals in harsh punishments, that is in the past unless you live in Afganistan where a wife can be shot for suspected adultery. She was judged and executed not by a jury of her peers but her supressors. What happened to the bloke that was involved? Nothing.

That is a massive injustice that makes me cranky rather than some excuse for birth control being a dick in front of the coppers.

The reality is, we dont know this blokes background. He might not be a s*** stain on soiciety, just a bloke going through a rough patch. Then again he may be.

Yep, petty crime is a PITA but that is all it is, petty crime.

Antagonist said :

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You’ve got quite a fanclub going, KB. +1 … mostly because there was no mention of cyclists.

Someone has to take the idiots on when they make idiodic comments …….

KB1971 said :

The article says that the car was suspected to be stolen, when the located him he had the keys on him so unless he car jacked it or robbed a house releiving the owner of the car of his keys I would say it wasnt.

The article said that speeds of 160 were reached. By who? The Dunlop man or the Police? It didnt say that he was doing 160. The police might have done 160 to catch him but he may have only been doing 100. I would like some more clarification on these details before coming to an absolute conclusion.

So we are back to some on the spot speeding fines & a fail to obey a police direction. Certainly not punishable by death.

& about the crap about this guy killing one of my family memebers? Yep, I would have the shits over that for sure but then one of my family members can be killed at any time on the road by anyone.

So a guy who has a licence, is insured, has a good job & a clean criminal record runs a red light & kills my wife should not be punished by death but this guy should bacause he drove unlicenced & sped a bit?

Yep the guy is an asshat but in the big scheme of things his crimes are minor. Maybe the punishment should be harcher but definately not death, after all, he is someones son/family member, someone will love him 😉

You’ve got quite a fanclub going, KB. +1 … mostly because there was no mention of cyclists.

KB1971 your redneck comment was weak as piss but your latest post is legitimate. Ok I might have been a bit over the top with wanting this individual shot, HOWEVER, you must agree that we are sick, sick, sick of hearing about scum, who think the law doesn’t apply to them commit crime, go to court, do a crocodile tear job about how bad their lives have been and get off with a suspended sentence from a weaker than piss judiciary and then go and commit more crime.

I’ll bet this individual won’t give a flying f*ck about the pathetic punishment he’ll receive. I’ll bet he’ll laugh about it over a case of Tooheys with his mates.

How about the Singaporean punishment of caning? Not lethal but certainly hurts like f*ck! My real point is that if the punishment is severe enough, a person may think twice before commiting a crime.

Deref said :

Another case amply demonstrating the need for stocks in Garema Place.

That would be an awesome spectacle to have public floggings and humiliation back on the agenda. I’d pay good money to see that!!

Pork Hunt said :

I agree. The motor car is the second most expensive thing most of us ever buy.
Car theft is a crime there really cannot be an excuse for.
The court will probably hear that this individual was butt fcuked by Father such and such at Sunday school and off he gets.
They used to hang horse thieves and now the car has replaced the horse but the punishment hasn’t followed suit..

The horse is now a car.
The law is now an ass.

Pork Hunt said :

farnarkler said :

KB1971 people like you are the reason we have people who commit crimes like this. This individual was already a disqualified driver, therefore had previously commited a crime. The fact that he tried to evade the police is evidence of his blatant disregard for the law.

I wonder how you would feel if, during his 160km/h jaunt, he’d rounded a corner and hit and killed one of your relatives. Would you feel so lenient then? I really despise do-gooders like you who think we should give scum like this playstations and soothing counselling sessions, etc.

I agree. The motor car is the second most expensive thing most of us ever buy.
Car theft is a crime there really cannot be an excuse for.
The court will probably hear that this individual was butt fcuked by Father such and such at Sunday school and off he gets.
They used to hang horse thieves and now the car has replaced the horse but the punishment hasn’t followed suit..

The article says that the car was suspected to be stolen, when the located him he had the keys on him so unless he car jacked it or robbed a house releiving the owner of the car of his keys I would say it wasnt.

The article said that speeds of 160 were reached. By who? The Dunlop man or the Police? It didnt say that he was doing 160. The police might have done 160 to catch him but he may have only been doing 100. I would like some more clarification on these details before coming to an absolute conclusion.

So we are back to some on the spot speeding fines & a fail to obey a police direction. Certainly not punishable by death.

& about the crap about this guy killing one of my family memebers? Yep, I would have the shits over that for sure but then one of my family members can be killed at any time on the road by anyone.

So a guy who has a licence, is insured, has a good job & a clean criminal record runs a red light & kills my wife should not be punished by death but this guy should bacause he drove unlicenced & sped a bit?

Yep the guy is an asshat but in the big scheme of things his crimes are minor. Maybe the punishment should be harcher but definately not death, after all, he is someones son/family member, someone will love him 😉

farnarkler said :

KB1971 people like you are the reason we have people who commit crimes like this. This individual was already a disqualified driver, therefore had previously commited a crime. The fact that he tried to evade the police is evidence of his blatant disregard for the law.

I wonder how you would feel if, during his 160km/h jaunt, he’d rounded a corner and hit and killed one of your relatives. Would you feel so lenient then? I really despise do-gooders like you who think we should give scum like this playstations and soothing counselling sessions, etc.

I agree. The motor car is the second most expensive thing most of us ever buy.
Car theft is a crime there really cannot be an excuse for.
The court will probably hear that this individual was butt fcuked by Father such and such at Sunday school and off he gets.
They used to hang horse thieves and now the car has replaced the horse but the punishment hasn’t followed suit..

farnarkler said :

I wonder how you would feel if, during his 160km/h jaunt, he’d rounded a corner and hit and killed one of your relatives. Would you feel so lenient then? I really despise do-gooders like you who think we should give scum like this playstations and soothing counselling sessions, etc.

But then it woulf be the fault of the police because if they hadn’t been trying to catch him he wouldn’t have sped off and killed someone. Can’t the stupid police understand that criminal scumbags just want to be allowed to commit their crimes in peace! Surely that is their human right.

It almost seems as if being criminal is a culture, so trying to prvent them is surely an attack on a cultural group!

farnarkler said :

KB1971 people like you are the reason we have people who commit crimes like this. This individual was already a disqualified driver, therefore had previously commited a crime. The fact that he tried to evade the police is evidence of his blatant disregard for the law.

I wonder how you would feel if, during his 160km/h jaunt, he’d rounded a corner and hit and killed one of your relatives. Would you feel so lenient then? I really despise do-gooders like you who think we should give scum like this playstations and soothing counselling sessions, etc.

Farnarkler, I applaud you and I tips me hat. Vote 1 for Farnarkler

3 months suspended sentence

Aeek said :

Solution: crush all white motor vehicles. Pity that its the easiest colour for other to see.

good idea – will you replace our white car if this happens?

farnarkler said :

KB1971 people like you are the reason we have people who commit crimes like this. This individual was already a disqualified driver, therefore had previously commited a crime. The fact that he tried to evade the police is evidence of his blatant disregard for the law.

I wonder how you would feel if, during his 160km/h jaunt, he’d rounded a corner and hit and killed one of your relatives. Would you feel so lenient then? I really despise do-gooders like you who think we should give scum like this playstations and soothing counselling sessions, etc.

& its people like me who formulated skin cream for red knecks like yours…….

Mrs_Potato_Head said :

farnarkler said :

KB1971 people like you are the reason we have people who commit crimes like this. This individual was already a disqualified driver, therefore had previously commited a crime. The fact that he tried to evade the police is evidence of his blatant disregard for the law.

I wonder how you would feel if, during his 160km/h jaunt, he’d rounded a corner and hit and killed one of your relatives. Would you feel so lenient then? I really despise do-gooders like you who think we should give scum like this playstations and soothing counselling sessions, etc.

+ 1

+100

Mrs_Potato_Head8:41 pm 11 Aug 12

farnarkler said :

KB1971 people like you are the reason we have people who commit crimes like this. This individual was already a disqualified driver, therefore had previously commited a crime. The fact that he tried to evade the police is evidence of his blatant disregard for the law.

I wonder how you would feel if, during his 160km/h jaunt, he’d rounded a corner and hit and killed one of your relatives. Would you feel so lenient then? I really despise do-gooders like you who think we should give scum like this playstations and soothing counselling sessions, etc.

+ 1

KB1971 people like you are the reason we have people who commit crimes like this. This individual was already a disqualified driver, therefore had previously commited a crime. The fact that he tried to evade the police is evidence of his blatant disregard for the law.

I wonder how you would feel if, during his 160km/h jaunt, he’d rounded a corner and hit and killed one of your relatives. Would you feel so lenient then? I really despise do-gooders like you who think we should give scum like this playstations and soothing counselling sessions, etc.

cranky said :

OK, Im the jury!

2 years, without parole.

Jury here just says guilty or not guilty, the judge hands out the sentence.

OK, Im the jury!

2 years, without parole.

Solution: crush all white motor vehicles. Pity that its the easiest colour for other to see.

+

bundah said :

He ticked all the boxes; white commode,disqualified,high speed police pursuit,crashes and caught with keys in pocket.Yet another Mully clone!

+ Charnlop resident! Another tick

Mr Gillespie said :

KB1971 said :

farnarkler said :

FFS why can’t we have the death penalty for oxygen thieves like this. A .22 calibre bullet is so much cheaper than court cases and jailtime.

Can you find Bill & Ted, jump into their time machine & go back to the century you came from?

Why do you need a time machine to get proper justice?

Why am I not surprised you piped up?

So, you think that someone who has comitted a minor crime needs to be shot?

Skewed sense of punishment much?

Mr Gillespie4:34 pm 11 Aug 12

KB1971 said :

farnarkler said :

FFS why can’t we have the death penalty for oxygen thieves like this. A .22 calibre bullet is so much cheaper than court cases and jailtime.

Can you find Bill & Ted, jump into their time machine & go back to the century you came from?

Why do you need a time machine to get proper justice?

Another case amply demonstrating the need for stocks in Garema Place.

screaming banshee2:47 pm 11 Aug 12

I’m sure he could still make a valuable contribution to society after we cut his hands off…after all every one deserves a second chance before the .22

farnarkler said :

FFS why can’t we have the death penalty for oxygen thieves like this. A .22 calibre bullet is so much cheaper than court cases and jailtime.

Can you find Bill & Ted, jump into their time machine & go back to the century you came from?

FFS why can’t we have the death penalty for oxygen thieves like this. A .22 calibre bullet is so much cheaper than court cases and jailtime.

“A man matching the description of the driver was located a short distance away. He had the keys to the car in his possession and was a disqualified driver.”

If brains was electricity, he’d be a walking blackout…

He ticked all the boxes; white commode,disqualified,high speed police pursuit,crashes and caught with keys in pocket.Yet another Mully clone!

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