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Gungahlin Al spits the dummy

johnboy 23 October 2012 77

Goodness me!

I never had Al pegged for the blue rinse Alan Jones set but we live and learn.


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davo101 10:06 am 26 Oct 12

c_c™ said :

MAC address is the key, individual to a computer regardless of network configuration, readily transmitted by browsers, and quite hard to change.

Ha. A one line change in Linux. Better still why not randomize it every time?

c_c™ 9:35 am 26 Oct 12

IP address is useless people, short of going to an ISP with a warrant. It also fails if you access a website from a network.

MAC address is the key, individual to a computer regardless of network configuration, readily transmitted by browsers, and quite hard to change.

HenryBG 8:43 am 26 Oct 12

johnboy said :

you really don’t get that much granularity from IP addies guys.

Anybody wondering what is immediately visible can check it themselves:
Click here:
http://whatismyipaddress.com/

Use that IP address to find slightly more info here:
http://www.whois.net/ip-address-lookup/

You and all your colleagues will all show up as the same IP address here.

It isn’t your IP address that reveals the most about you, it is the security features (or lack of them) of your browser. Some browsers allow websites to track your online activities very closely – you’d be amazed about what they know about you.
Choose a browser that offers superior security. And download the plugins that maximise that.

    johnboy 9:02 am 26 Oct 12

    It should be noted that if you have an IP address, a time of use, an a cooperative ISP you can nail them down to a single house.

    The cooperative ISP’s the tricky bit.

Pandy 12:03 am 26 Oct 12

screaming banshee said :

johnboy said :

you really don’t get that much granularity from IP addies guys.

Csi would have us believe your ip give your precise address, what you ate for lunch and the last porno you downloaded.

No fracking way?!!!

Delete. Delete. Delete.

Innovation 7:31 pm 25 Oct 12

I have nothing to add to this thread. I just wanted to vote 1 – Al for the Mully as I think he might have a chance. What was that? Too soon…..?

screaming banshee 7:30 pm 25 Oct 12

johnboy said :

you really don’t get that much granularity from IP addies guys.

Csi would have us believe your ip give your precise address, what you ate for lunch and the last porno you downloaded.

poetix 5:14 pm 25 Oct 12

johnboy said :

you really don’t get that much granularity from IP addies guys.

Sometimes I have to do a lot of scrambling with google to figure out what you might possibly mean. It’s good though. Educational.

My comments are always a model of transparency.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 4:35 pm 25 Oct 12

neanderthalsis said :

puggy said :

Alan, you did OK in the Gungahlin and Harrison booths, compared to the other Greens candidates anyway (going off Elections ACT).

It’d be interesting statistics for John to tally up IPs from riotact visitors located in Gungahlin and compare them to Alan’s total vote.

I would imagine that an audit of IP addresses would indicate that a lot of us live in large buildings housing government departments or other agencies in Civic, Barton, Belconnen, Woden & Tuggers.

BOOM

Gungahlin Al 4:30 pm 25 Oct 12

puggy said :

Alan, you did OK in the Gungahlin and Harrison booths, compared to the other Greens candidates anyway (going off Elections ACT).

Ah…so I did. I couldn’t figure out the “booths” page, but now see the hyperlinks. Even pipped a lead candidate here and there… That improves my mood immensely. Thanks Puggy. 🙂

puggy 4:20 pm 25 Oct 12

neanderthalsis said :

I would imagine that an audit of IP addresses would indicate that a lot of us live in large buildings housing government departments or other agencies in Civic, Barton, Belconnen, Woden & Tuggers.

You mean you don’t look at riotact when you get home as well?! For shame!

    johnboy 4:29 pm 25 Oct 12

    you really don’t get that much granularity from IP addies guys.

Grail 4:00 pm 25 Oct 12

In Hare Clark, you can vote a whole bunch of candidates last by simply voting 1 for your least hated candidate and leaving the remainder empty. That stuff from Elections ACT is only their advice on making your vote “count”. The sad part is that if you voted 1 for Katy or Zed, your vote didn’t count for them since they were massively over quota. Your vote was more likely used to provide the quota for someone else four to ten preferences down the list.

neanderthalsis 2:18 pm 25 Oct 12

puggy said :

Alan, you did OK in the Gungahlin and Harrison booths, compared to the other Greens candidates anyway (going off Elections ACT).

It’d be interesting statistics for John to tally up IPs from riotact visitors located in Gungahlin and compare them to Alan’s total vote.

I would imagine that an audit of IP addresses would indicate that a lot of us live in large buildings housing government departments or other agencies in Civic, Barton, Belconnen, Woden & Tuggers.

colourful sydney racing identity 1:42 pm 25 Oct 12

Chop71 said :

Gungahlin Al said :

Really appreciate the feedback folks.

Al, I think your efforts are very much undervalued and you deserve more respect for the work you have done over a long time (not just the 2 weeks before election). Even though I don’t agree with most of your ideology and don’t live in Gunners, someone as community minded as yourself is an asset to Canberra.

Thanks for running Al.

+1

puggy 1:14 pm 25 Oct 12

Alan, you did OK in the Gungahlin and Harrison booths, compared to the other Greens candidates anyway (going off Elections ACT).

It’d be interesting statistics for John to tally up IPs from riotact visitors located in Gungahlin and compare them to Alan’s total vote.

Chop71 11:26 am 25 Oct 12

Gungahlin Al said :

Really appreciate the feedback folks.

Al, I think your efforts are very much undervalued and you deserve more respect for the work you have done over a long time (not just the 2 weeks before election). Even though I don’t agree with most of your ideology and don’t live in Gunners, someone as community minded as yourself is an asset to Canberra.

Thanks for running Al.

mezza76 10:42 am 25 Oct 12

caf said :

c_c™ said :

mezza76 said :

I took delight at making Mr Pocock my 26th pick… just to be sure 🙂

Well done, by doing that you actually helped him.

The only way in Hare-Clarke to put a candidate last is to not put any number down for them at all. Nothing, zilch, nada.

This is completely untrue. If you number right to the end, there’s no difference between numbering the last box or leaving it blank. When the last preference distribution is done in a count, there must be at least 2 candidates remaining, and the remaining transfer value of your vote will end up with the candidate that you’ve ranked highest out of those.

Yep – as a political science double major with honours – I figured I had it right (essentially the vote exhausts on the last preference) 😉

I’m now awaiting my apology from C_C as I was mortified that anyone thought I would help Pocock…

caf 10:30 am 25 Oct 12

c_c™ said :

mezza76 said :

I took delight at making Mr Pocock my 26th pick… just to be sure 🙂

Well done, by doing that you actually helped him.

The only way in Hare-Clarke to put a candidate last is to not put any number down for them at all. Nothing, zilch, nada.

This is completely untrue. If you number right to the end, there’s no difference between numbering the last box or leaving it blank. When the last preference distribution is done in a count, there must be at least 2 candidates remaining, and the remaining transfer value of your vote will end up with the candidate that you’ve ranked highest out of those.

Jono 7:39 am 25 Oct 12

c_c™ said :

mezza76 said :

I took delight at making Mr Pocock my 26th pick… just to be sure 🙂

Well done, by doing that you actually helped him.

The only way in Hare-Clarke to put a candidate is to not put any number down for them at all. Nothing, zilch, nada.

Not correct, I’m sorry. There is no way for a final preference to be distributed, as if the counting gets down that far, by definition all other candidates have already been eliminated or elected. Happy to hear you produce a scenario where it’s possible.

maxblues 4:23 am 25 Oct 12

Aeek said :

c_c™ said :

mezza76 said :

I took delight at making Mr Pocock my 26th pick… just to be sure 🙂

Well done, by doing that you actually helped him.Crows will be playing 4 finals (with 2 trips to Melbourne) – no wonder fans are pacing themselves!

The only way in Hare-Clarke to put a candidate last is to not put any number down for them at all. Nothing, zilch, nada.

I took great delight in reaching the last box, and leaving Coe blank; not that it did any good.

Didn’t Coe get more primary votes than anyone other than two major party leaders?

Gungahlin Al 1:42 am 25 Oct 12

Really appreciate the feedback folks.

I had a great election day – local knowledge meant I had a spot all to myself, outside the 100m limit, and time to introduce myself to more than 500 people and give them my Gungahlin-specific leaflet. I was pretty sure a good proportion of those people were going to support me, and only a handful of people were deliberately rude. (Why I wonder? What did that prove?)

But as someone else pointed out earlier, the How To Vote section on my leaflet suggested people vote 1 and 2 between Shane and Caroline and 3 and 4 between Adrianna and myself, but with the photos in that order. And that is the order people voted in.

There’s still nothing in the way of booth results up, so no way of knowing if that booth (or indeed booths outside Gungahlin) was any different from others. The North Canberra booths are of course very strong Green voting areas. So I take some comfort from knowing that the actual numbers don’t show how many people came over to the Greens because of me running. And that was my goal anyway – to try to bring in new votes and help the MLAs get re-elected. (It doesn’t mean the numbers are any less personally embarrassing though.)

So, as opposed to the other main parties, the Greens HTVs reflected the team approach – supporting the MLAs first and foremost, with an eye to “leakage”. It’s how campaigns are run everywhere else in Australia, and avoids the way the other parties work here, where all candidates are competing against each other, as well as against other parties.

The vote distribution shows that about a third of my first preference votes did indeed “leak” to candidates from other parties. But perhaps there is an argument that the hammer-and-tongs way the other parties go about their campaigns leads to overall higher votes, and outweighs the leakage issue and actually works better here with the Robson rotation? It may mean now and then losing an incumbent MLA, but parties are not likely to care about that much if their numbers stay up. (The losing MLA, on the other hand…)

It’s a moot point anyway, as the other party candidates have to put in their own money to make up a large part of their personal campaigns, and our obscene mortgage meant I could not have afforded that.

However, the results show undeniably, that the prevalence of signs everywhere, and the “Occupy The Crossing” on Hibberson Street worked. No matter how much people said (here and elsewhere) that they hated being hassled in the town centre, or detested the signs, the numbers matched almost perfectly the candidates wit the most of both – irrespective of whether they had done anything in the community earlier than a year ago. Simon’s total lack of signage may well have cost him his job, and I’ll bet Andrew Barr was seriously regretting not bothering to campaign on Saturday night, given the scare he got!

It’s been a real learning experience to read comments like the one on page 1 saying I wasn’t visible during the campaign (no I wasn’t visible on the roadsides, but I was for 6 years prior to that, and we did three separate leaflet drops in Gungahlin during the campaign, plus a lot of doorknocking and attending every community election forum out there), and hear the media focus on “strong campaigns” rather than candidates. I’m not bitching about it – just making the observation.

Anyway, I appreciate the comments about standing again. I had hoped that I’d come away from this election with a reasonable foundation from which to have a serious go at getting rid of Gary Humphries, for whom I have no time and little regard for his contribution to Canberra either in Opposition or in Government before that.

But if that idea wasn’t stuffed Saturday night, it sure seems to be now with Simon Sheikh putting his hand up. So four years is a long time. I think I might enjoy just being an ordinary citizen, and perhaps feel less constrained about letting rip the next time some idiot tries to run me down when I’m on my bike!

A final observation: the biggest winners out of the ACT election were the corflute printers! And can you imagine what it will be like next time? Unless something serious is done to overhaul the election sign “code of practice” and turn it into a law, with stiff financial penalties and sign confiscations attached, and maybe limits on signage per candidate, etc, it will be mayhem out there next time. As if the behaviour of a whole lot of people wasn’t bad enough this time around…people who hold themselves up as fit to govern – to make laws and impose them on others…

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