Gus’ Cafe could lose its name forever

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pink little birdie said :

Canberra doesn’t have a long history, and a lot of the older parts of town end up disappearing either by accident or design. It’s good for our city’s heritage and identity to have a few relics of the past, lest we begin to think the entire city began in the late 1990s.

It’s obvious from here that some people appear to think that.

I have never heard anything good about the food or coffee here. Gus’ stand against a silly ordnance (that would have been overturned anyway) has given this cafe an odd longevity and place in Canberra folklore. The original plan for Canberra always envisaged an outdoor focus, and French style boulevards. That and Melbourne’s lane-way culture would always have put the tables on the footpath one day.

Ironically for the cafe that forged ahead with outdoor tables, sticking it to the man, they recently enclosed most of their once outside tables in some odd contraption with windows.

pink little birdie said :

Holden Caulfield said :

Mello said :

I was around when Gus was fighting to be allowed to have outside tables and chairs. He led that movement in Canberra. Until he did that no-one could sit outside a cafe. That’s something we owe him. It seems people here have very short memories, or weren’t around in Canberra then and don’t know the history. From memory the food, etc was ordinary at Gus’, but then so too was it mostly elsewhere in those days too. It would be a shame to see this historical name go, mainly I would speculate because it was before many people’s time in Canberra and the history means nothing to them.

I’m aware that Gus fought to have seats outside. But I don’t care. Some people in Canberra hold on to the notion that we would still only have indoor seating if it wasn’t for him. I think that’s nonsense. The law would have changed eventually regardless of his involvement. I don’t see that as reason enough to campaign for the name to be kept.

Canberra doesn’t have a long history, and a lot of the older parts of town end up disappearing either by accident or design. It’s good for our city’s heritage and identity to have a few relics of the past, lest we begin to think the entire city began in the late 1990s.

Absolutely. But that alone doesn’t make Gus’ worth saving.

dungfungus said :

This is the “new” Canberra. It should be knocked down and replaced by high rise apartments for the inner city, latte sipping, tram using hipsters to enjoy.

To give a nod to tradition and history – call it “Gus’s Apartments”.

Its the Canberra way.

The inner city hipsters won’t use the tram – where are they going to go, Gungahlin?

Holden Caulfield said :

Mello said :

I was around when Gus was fighting to be allowed to have outside tables and chairs. He led that movement in Canberra. Until he did that no-one could sit outside a cafe. That’s something we owe him. It seems people here have very short memories, or weren’t around in Canberra then and don’t know the history. From memory the food, etc was ordinary at Gus’, but then so too was it mostly elsewhere in those days too. It would be a shame to see this historical name go, mainly I would speculate because it was before many people’s time in Canberra and the history means nothing to them.

I’m aware that Gus fought to have seats outside. But I don’t care. Some people in Canberra hold on to the notion that we would still only have indoor seating if it wasn’t for him. I think that’s nonsense. The law would have changed eventually regardless of his involvement. I don’t see that as reason enough to campaign for the name to be kept.

Canberra doesn’t have a long history, and a lot of the older parts of town end up disappearing either by accident or design. It’s good for our city’s heritage and identity to have a few relics of the past, lest we begin to think the entire city began in the late 1990s.

wildturkeycanoe said :

dungfungus said :

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bigred said :

A good friend of mine will be writing to John Grimble and asking him to encourage the new owners to consign Gus Petersilka’s name to the dustbin of history…

Good luck with that, I have tried to track down a physical office address, phone number or email for them, and so far have come up with nothing. It seems they do not want to engage with, well, anyone for any reason and don’t like people contacting them.

rommeldog56 said :

Poor service, bad coffee, and average food.

Good riddance.

At times yes, but most of the time it was good service, good coffee, good food. Don’t let small periods of bad managers running the place ruin what is close to 50 years of excellent service.

Since you found it necessary to moderate out my original reply, I’ll just say this: the past 15 years the service and the food have been lousy. I’m looking forward to something better replacing Gus’.

I presume you are referring to Charlotte, I of course have no ability to moderate anything, so I don’t know what your original reply was. Why can’t we have something better though, and still retain the name?

“Chez Augustine” perhaps?
“Gus” sounds a bit Bogan these days (like the nickname of the NRL commentator named Gould)..

I’m pretty sure just about anyone called Angus or Augustus would disagree with you there. I personally adore the name – for people, as well as cafes.

Charlotte Harper said :

Zan is on the money. Gus’ first outdoor cafe seating was in what was then Thetis Court, Manuka …

er… so that would be indoor seating, rather than the outdoor sidewalk seating he had in Civic…

No it was outdoors as Thetis Court did not have a roof then.

Charlotte Harper said :

Zan is on the money. Gus’ first outdoor cafe seating was in what was then Thetis Court, Manuka …

er… so that would be indoor seating, rather than the outdoor sidewalk seating he had in Civic…

Zan is on the money. Gus’ first outdoor cafe seating was in what was then Thetis Court, Manuka (now Manuka Court) – Roughly where the Rendezvous cafe is now. Gus may not be remembered for good food but for pioneering the outdoor cafe seating we prize (except in mid winter). He was also into making the place a hang out for conversation, listening to live music and reading – no rush to get a big turnover. He wanted to create a Viennese style cafe.

dungfungus said :

This is the “new” Canberra. It should be knocked down and replaced by high rise apartments for the inner city, latte sipping, tram using hipsters to enjoy.

To give a nod to tradition and history – call it “Gus’s Apartments”.

Its the Canberra way.

I like that.

This is the “new” Canberra. It should be knocked down and replaced by high rise apartments for the inner city, latte sipping, tram using hipsters to enjoy.

To give a nod to tradition and history – call it “Gus’s Apartments”.

Its the Canberra way.

Holden Caulfield said :

Maybe the ACT Council could officially gazette that particular Bunda St/Garema Place intersection with the name “Gus’ Corner”, or “Gus’ Place”.

There is already some historical information signage, maybe just make it a bit more prominent and formalised.

Obviously my first suggestion “Chez Augustine” did not excite anyone so how about “Petersilka Place”?
(At least the alliteration works).

Maya123 said :

bringontheevidence said :

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The plaque on the sidewalk is nice…

If we’re honouring Australian history ‘footpath’ please, not ‘sidewalk’?

Ah, the influence of American TV, etc… in my life is leaking through. I apologise for the slip of the tongue.

bringontheevidence said :

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The plaque on the sidewalk is nice…

If we’re honouring Australian history ‘footpath’ please, not ‘sidewalk’?

Holden Caulfield said :

Maybe the ACT Council could officially gazette that particular Bunda St/Garema Place intersection with the name “Gus’ Corner”, or “Gus’ Place”.

There is already some historical information signage, maybe just make it a bit more prominent and formalised.

I’m open to ideas like this. It was also suggested the nearby tram stop could be named Gus’ Stop. Something like this would be fitting I think.

I accept that it is likely that the name will be lost. I think that is sad, Gus did pioneer the movement back in his day and many have forgotten that now unfortunately. I have spoken with relatives this week who visit Canberra not very often but all remember Gus’ fondly.

I am normally not one to oppose progress, but I think it is important to acknowledge the links to the past and what influences shaped our great city, like it or not Gus was one of those influences.

The plaque on the sidewalk is nice, but I think we can go a step further to ensure the name Gus’ will always be remembered. To be honest I was expecting more signatures on the petition by now, it seems Gus’ is not as well remembered as I had hoped.

So say farewell to the name, but I am glad I did not let this moment pass without an attempt to honour the heritage and the history of Gus’ Cafe. R.I.P.

bigred said :

At times yes, but most of the time it was good service, good coffee, good food. Don’t let small periods of bad managers running the place ruin what is close to 50 years of excellent service.

Businesses come and businesses go. There are many business names that we hold fond memories for and which are gone.

Gus’s today has nothing to do with Gus’s in the 1970s and 1980s – it then had cultural value – one of the few places you could go and enjoy a hot drink and a snack in a relaxed and pleasant and quite authentic atmosphere. The only place you could go and sip coffee on the sidewalk (assuming the ACT Govt. enforcers hadn’t confiscated the outdoor tables and chairs that morning).
Nowadays every sidewalk in town is cluttered with tables and chairs, and Gus’s has nothing unique going for it.

Maybe the ACT Council could officially gazette that particular Bunda St/Garema Place intersection with the name “Gus’ Corner”, or “Gus’ Place”.

There is already some historical information signage, maybe just make it a bit more prominent and formalised.

Mello said :

I was around when Gus was fighting to be allowed to have outside tables and chairs. He led that movement in Canberra. Until he did that no-one could sit outside a cafe. That’s something we owe him. It seems people here have very short memories, or weren’t around in Canberra then and don’t know the history. From memory the food, etc was ordinary at Gus’, but then so too was it mostly elsewhere in those days too. It would be a shame to see this historical name go, mainly I would speculate because it was before many people’s time in Canberra and the history means nothing to them.

I’m aware that Gus fought to have seats outside. But I don’t care. Some people in Canberra hold on to the notion that we would still only have indoor seating if it wasn’t for him. I think that’s nonsense. The law would have changed eventually regardless of his involvement. I don’t see that as reason enough to campaign for the name to be kept.

Gus’ Cafe first started in Manuka in the mid-60s. You can read all about Gus and his cafe ventures here http://www.library.act.gov.au/find/history/frequentlyaskedquestions/personal_stories/canberra-citizen-of-the-year-1967/gus-petersilka