Health statistics so ugly the Chief Minister has nothing to say

howeph said :

Presenting with chest pain at the emergency department is NOT wasting anyone’s time.

Robertson can you please tone down the aggressiveness in your posts. You might not realise it but calling people names, like a hypochondriac, is not funny or incisive; it’s boorish.

It’s much worse than that – it’s dangerous. Never listen to such idiotic advice. The ED is the place to be, as fast as possible, in the event of chest pain.

What a pity there isn’t an emergency department for grammar.

America’s war on drugs has been a massive failure, but its war on the gerund has been a total success.

funbutalsoserious said :

+1 for Pantsman comment, this government has stupid priorities.

But we keep voting for them, so why should they care what we think?

+1 for Pantsman comment, this government has stupid priorities.

I’m with PantsMain – the political priorities in this town are totally off-beam.

virgil99 said :

“potentially avoidable GP presentations” is a misnomer. Something to distract attention. Just because something is a triage cat 4 or 5 doesn’t make it GP. Just because someone thinks after presenting to an ED and being sent home with a diagnosis that their GP could have handled it doesn’t mean that they could.
This is old data, and being misrepresented. ACT has two emergency departments. Both are major ones. Amongst national major ED’s, both TCH and Calvary sit in the middle to top half. Every other state has small hospitals that do much better and make the figures look better. Look closer at the individual stats for each hospital in the country. Look at John Hunter, or Townsville, or Flinders, or Royal Hobart, as the only really similar hospitals to TCH and see how they do.
Sometimes people wait. Sometimes they wait for too long. The vast majority of time the quality of care they receive is excellent. Sometimes it isn’t. But judging an ED purely on how long someone sits in a waiting room???

How is 2012-13 data “old”?

If big hospitals do badly compared to small ones, despite the fact they presumably get the serious urgent cases like road trauma which are treated quickly and help their stats, then perhaps there is a lesson there. And smaller hospital may also have faster ambulance response times (in both directions) because they are closer to the population.

IP

Chop71 said :

yup, you get what you vote for……

no plastic bags and gay marriages

very important stuff when you’re waiting in emergency

Correct. We are forgetting that 0.01 percent of the people getting crap healthcare really want gay marriage.

Katy, Barr and Corbell are delivering for them.

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

The AIHW data indicates that, of the 118,000-odd A&E presentation in Canberra in 2012-13, 46,000 were ‘potentially avoidable GP-type presentations’.

Because we have such a good health system.

“potentially avoidable GP presentations” is a misnomer. Something to distract attention. Just because something is a triage cat 4 or 5 doesn’t make it GP. Just because someone thinks after presenting to an ED and being sent home with a diagnosis that their GP could have handled it doesn’t mean that they could.
This is old data, and being misrepresented. ACT has two emergency departments. Both are major ones. Amongst national major ED’s, both TCH and Calvary sit in the middle to top half. Every other state has small hospitals that do much better and make the figures look better. Look closer at the individual stats for each hospital in the country. Look at John Hunter, or Townsville, or Flinders, or Royal Hobart, as the only really similar hospitals to TCH and see how they do.
Sometimes people wait. Sometimes they wait for too long. The vast majority of time the quality of care they receive is excellent. Sometimes it isn’t. But judging an ED purely on how long someone sits in a waiting room???

Thumper said :

DrKoresh said :

They should recruit you lot of whingers to work the waaahmbulance.

So I take your happy with the way Gallagher/ Stanhope have let arguably the best hospital system in Australia turn in to the worse in a mere decade?

Some people are easy to please.

Idiot… You’re….

Sigh, Friday afternoon….

howeph said :

Presenting with chest pain at the emergency department is NOT wasting anyone’s time.

Robertson can you please tone down the aggressiveness in your posts. You might not realise it but calling people names, like a hypochondriac, is not funny or incisive; it’s boorish.

+1.

DrKoresh said :

They should recruit you lot of whingers to work the waaahmbulance.

Groan. Old meme is really old, and wasn’t particularly funny to begin with.

The AIHW data indicates that, of the 118,000-odd A&E presentation in Canberra in 2012-13, 46,000 were ‘potentially avoidable GP-type presentations’.

DrKoresh said :

They should recruit you lot of whingers to work the waaahmbulance.

So I take your happy with the way Gallagher/ Stanhope have let arguably the best hospital system in Australia turn in to the worse in a mere decade?

Some people are easy to please.

Robertson said :

neanderthalsis said :

Luckily it turned out to be nothing, but shooting pains across my chest bumped me to the front of the queue of sniffles and bumps that seemed to otherwise fill the waiting room.

You have to admire the front of a hypochondriac who’s just gone and wasted everybody’s time at A&E casting aspersions on the rest of the timewasters who he saw there on his visit.

Presenting with chest pain at the emergency department is NOT wasting anyone’s time.

Robertson can you please tone down the aggressiveness in your posts. You might not realise it but calling people names, like a hypochondriac, is not funny or incisive; it’s boorish.

DrKoresh said :

They should recruit you lot of whingers to work the waaahmbulance.

Katy should get you to write her press release

Robertson said :

neanderthalsis said :

Luckily it turned out to be nothing, but shooting pains across my chest bumped me to the front of the queue of sniffles and bumps that seemed to otherwise fill the waiting room.

You have to admire the front of a hypochondriac who’s just gone and wasted everybody’s time at A&E casting aspersions on the rest of the timewasters who he saw there on his visit.

Robertson said :

neanderthalsis said :

Luckily it turned out to be nothing, but shooting pains across my chest bumped me to the front of the queue of sniffles and bumps that seemed to otherwise fill the waiting room.

You have to admire the front of a hypochondriac who’s just gone and wasted everybody’s time at A&E casting aspersions on the rest of the timewasters who he saw there on his visit.

So you’d suggest that a middle aged man with sharp shooting pains across the chest and cold sweats should be more conscious of the burden that they may be on the health system and not present themselves at A&E at 11pm? Not sure if you’re an idiot or a troll.

And FYI, the ABS reports that around a quarter of the people who had visited a hospital emergency department in 2009 thought the care they had received on their most recent visit could have been provided by a general practitioner. So, in summary, around a quarter of people go to A&E knowing that they should probably go to their GP. I went because my wife thought I was going to die.

They should recruit you lot of whingers to work the waaahmbulance.

yup, you get what you vote for……

no plastic bags and gay marriages

very important stuff when you’re waiting in emergency

neanderthalsis said :

Luckily it turned out to be nothing, but shooting pains across my chest bumped me to the front of the queue of sniffles and bumps that seemed to otherwise fill the waiting room.

You have to admire the front of a hypochondriac who’s just gone and wasted everybody’s time at A&E casting aspersions on the rest of the timewasters who he saw there on his visit.

The inescapable fact is, this Government simply cannot get the job done.

And we’ll keep voting them in until they get it right! It is said that you get the government you deserve…

That said, I did have a health scare recently, went to Calvary late in the evening and was seen promptly and well cared for. Luckily it turned out to be nothing, but shooting pains across my chest bumped me to the front of the queue of sniffles and bumps that seemed to otherwise fill the waiting room.