23 March 2012

Hey cheap light rail?

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Ok so I don’t agree with that whole light rail idea, I think it’d be a waste of money but….

They’re talking of pulling down the Sydney monorail because they want to refirbish some building or something, would taking the Sydney monorail and moving it to Canberra be a way to save money on building this light rail utopia y’all keep talking about?

As long as there is no chance that the track could bend.

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WhiteRabbit said :

maybe the greens could run with it as a renweable transport option with battery chickens.. kill two birds..

Talking about killing two birds with one stone, the government could install it as a piece of public art.

damien haas said :

The sydney monorail is being torn down so it can be replaced with light rail.

The Sydney monorail is not in any way viable as a mass transit technology for Canberra.

This is the ACT Light Rail view on the issue: http://www.actlightrail.info/2012/03/monorail-not-suited-for-canberra.html

Damien Haas
Chair, ACT Light Rail

There is one sentence from your article that sums it all up really: “[Light rail] cannot be at the scale of a small tourist novelty.”

Rollersk8r said :

Light rail will never work here

I’d be interested to hear why you think that light rail will never work here.

p1 said :

dungfungus said :

Stanhope and fellow aborists could have it installed at the tree theme park. It could be on the boundary a la Disneyland. Friends of the aboretum could take turns to drive it with their Mickey Mouse ears affixed.

Actually, that is the sort of place it would be good. You know, assuming that people were going to the arboretum.

I was serious.

WhiteRabbit said :

maybe the greens could run with it as a renweable transport option with battery chickens.. kill two birds..

“kills two birds” – earlier in their hormonally shortened life ?

mono-wails drop grease (its a machine)

light rail involves (prohibitively) high start up costs and probably won’t go where I want to go. Nice toy for Utopia or high density cities

The sydney monorail is being torn down so it can be replaced with light rail.

The Sydney monorail is not in any way viable as a mass transit technology for Canberra.

This is the ACT Light Rail view on the issue: http://www.actlightrail.info/2012/03/monorail-not-suited-for-canberra.html

Damien Haas
Chair, ACT Light Rail

Rollersk8r said :

Of course, of course – now it’s on record that Canberra wants it.

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/monovision-for-tuggeranong-20120328-1vy42.html?rand=1223117

Light rail will never work here – and that applies tenfold for something that was never intended to be a public transport system.

I knew there’d be some idiot in Canberra that would think a used monorail is a good idea. Once again confirming the stereotype of Canberra being full of wankers living in some sort of fairyland somewhat distant from the real world.

Of course, of course – now it’s on record that Canberra wants it.

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/monovision-for-tuggeranong-20120328-1vy42.html?rand=1223117

Light rail will never work here – and that applies tenfold for something that was never intended to be a public transport system.

AAMC said :

You know I was sitting in traffic on Northbourne, only yesterday, thinking that an elevated rail system running right down the middle would be a good idea and wouldn’t even affect traffic.

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Not only that but it would make the perfect spot for a 2 lane COVERED cycle path underneath it. Wins in every direction.

maybe the greens could run with it as a renweable transport option with battery chickens.. kill two birds..

devils_advocate said :

johnboy said :

More of a hobart idea…

Now hold on a minute, we’re twice as smart as the people of Hobart.

Yeah but we don’t have as many fingers.

devils_advocate3:13 pm 28 Mar 12

johnboy said :

More of a hobart idea…

Now hold on a minute, we’re twice as smart as the people of Hobart. Just tell us your idea and we’ll vote for it.

dungfungus said :

Stanhope and fellow aborists could have it installed at the tree theme park. It could be on the boundary a la Disneyland. Friends of the aboretum could take turns to drive it with their Mickey Mouse ears affixed.

Actually, that is the sort of place it would be good. You know, assuming that people were going to the arboretum.

Stanhope and fellow aborists could have it installed at the tree theme park. It could be on the boundary a la Disneyland. Friends of the aboretum could take turns to drive it with their Mickey Mouse ears affixed.

Chop71 said :

Hobart wants it

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/give-it-to-us-hobart-wants-sydneys-monorail-for-free-20120328-1vxi3.html

Good. Let’s sell them a bridge, while they’ve got their cheque-book open.

You know I was sitting in traffic on Northbourne, only yesterday, thinking that an elevated rail system running right down the middle would be a good idea and wouldn’t even affect traffic.

But I would suggest we try to avoid getting Mono from Sydney.

Cheap? No way that idea would be cheap. It’s over 20 years old and would need significant repairs and maintenance or upgrading to be being close to useful. It would be cheaper to build a new one from scratch.

Get real – that monorail is useless. It’s slow and its capacity is minuscule. (It fits about a dozen people per carriage, from memory)
It couldn’t possibly be a component of any kind of useful mass-transit system.

johnboy said :

Au Contraire!

http://the-riotact.com/keizo-ushios-cookie-cutter-fired-up-on-northbourne-new-public-art/66492

Well it’s sorted, this city has been gearing up to get a mono-rail for at least 6 months now.

We are all systems go for mono-rail.

I like it..
city-commonwealth ave – gallery etc – kings ave – Russell – City

Could be a centenary of Canbera gift

But we don’t have any giant doughnuts in case it goes out of control to use as an anchor point.

Maybe a loop through the city, over commonwealth avenue, down past the gallery & library and back up Kings avenue to the city again. maybe it could be a centenary of canberra gift from sydney?

Where would we put it? Shelby-ville? Northbourne? or around the utopia on the hill?

A monorail like that in Canberra would be an even bigger failure than it was in Sydney. More of a tourist attraction than an effective form of transport.

Monorails are also generally not considered to be light rail. The existing proposals for Canberra envisage a system somewhere between street trams and heavy commuter rail.

Mono-DOH!

I think one of the reasons for its dismantlement is that it needs mainenance (new cars and the like). I can’t imagine using a 22 year old white elephant that’s actually past its “use-by” is going to save anyone any money.

(But I’m glad you’re at least thinking about it!)

Insert obligatory Simpsons reference!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEZjzsnPhnw

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