27 July 2009

"Houses too expensive for nurses, service workers" ?

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ABC Online has just run an item saying Canberra is too expensive for nurses etc. to buy a home.

After a small rant against Canberra the article ends with the footnote “Similar results were found in all other cities except Darwin.” Have we upset someone in the ABC?

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rosiered said :

i meant to say that I dispute the assertion that politcians are paid megabucks…..

in comparison to key service personnel, they are…

i meant to say that I dispute the assertion that politcians are paid megabucks…..

I dispute that we pay megabucks to politcians.As much as we don’t like them, politicians wages are not inflated especially considering what is required of them – and they’re not all bad. http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/pollies-set-for-pay-freeze-rudd/2008/02/14/1202760482091.html

@steveu I think salary packaging for nurses has tightened up considerably recently altho in saying that, nurses are still able to salary package mortage repayments and rent.

Igglepiggle said :

I suspect the nursing figures are base salary and don’t include shift penalties and qualification allowances either. That being said, their pay doesn’t recognise the great work that nurses do.

The figure referenced in the BankWest data comes from ABS figures so probably is the average income for registered nurses (the code used for the figures doesn’t include enrolled nurses who earn even less). The figure that they use is equivalent to the base salary of a nurse who has been working in the hospital system for 5 years. That might actually be a reasonable reflection of the experience of the average nurse given that annual attrition rates are quoted as being somewhere around 20% (see the link below for the reference on that last bit of info)

http://news.csu.edu.au/director/regionalnews.cfm?itemID=53FF92FBE6AE8992D5A3728247D1EC39&printtemplate=release

Qbn Gal said : +1

Qbn Gal said :

Isn’t it odd that as a society we pay megabucks to politicians and CEO’s and don’t value or pay near enough to those in service industries such as nurses, teachers, police etc. And to add insult to injury those CEO’s who do a lousy job get a very lucrative golden handshake. When are we going to get our priorities right?

Hear hear.

I always thought that nurses, because they worked in a hospital, could salary package almost anything (including mortgages) as you were exempt from FBT by virtue of this fact. I am sure years ago many people working at Canberra Hospital were doing just that. Im not disputing the pay of nurses, Im just suggesting that there were (maybe still are) generous salary packaging options by working in the hospital.

ant said :

Dead-set, Qbn Gal. And while most of us will never, ever NEED those CEOs, it’s pretty much a given that at some point, those CEOs will be in desperate need of those essential service workers.

It’s all topsy turvy.

What would Tyler Durden do?

Dead-set, Qbn Gal. And while most of us will never, ever NEED those CEOs, it’s pretty much a given that at some point, those CEOs will be in desperate need of those essential service workers.

It’s all topsy turvy.

In the US, some areas have outrageous real estate prices, often resort areas, so the people who staff the resorts and other services can’t afford to live there. So in some areas, they haev to commute in, and canny employers cream off the best staff by organising accommodation for their staff. Smart town councils compel/encourage major resorts to build staff accommodation and in some places that’s worked very well.

Isn’t it odd that as a society we pay megabucks to politicians and CEO’s and don’t value or pay near enough to those in service industries such as nurses, teachers, police etc. And to add insult to injury those CEO’s who do a lousy job get a very lucrative golden handshake. When are we going to get our priorities right?

perhaps the ACT government should be helping these key service workers into a new house, rather than just act housing tenants?

Woody Mann-Caruso1:54 pm 27 Jul 09

Nurses, soldiers, police, teachers – pretty much anything where you give up your life to help others. But that warm and fuzzy feeling pays the bills, so it all works out in the end, right?

Right?

I suspect the nursing figures are base salary and don’t include shift penalties and qualification allowances either. That being said, their pay doesn’t recognise the great work that nurses do.

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy12:08 pm 27 Jul 09

Canberra housing is expensive because Canberra land is expensive. Reduce the price of land for new dwellings, and the rest of the market will soften as well.

ACT government, this post is directed to you.

People on modest, single incomes have a real challenge to get their own home in Canberra. I think the only real indicator to use is incomes vs house prices. 10 years ago, the income:house price was a much lower ratio than it is now. House prices have sky-rocketed: incomes have not increased at the same level.

The real entry-level seems to be around $400,000 or something like that… when you take away things that skew the average lower like auction listings and those investment units that you can’t live in. An ordinary single income person is on a real struggle to borrow and pay off almost half a million dollars.

This is a real issue, and the government should be addressing it properly. giving developers slabs of scarce land to build mcmansions on is NOT (how can I make that font bigger?!) the way to go.

This is Economy vs Society stuff, and currently, the Economy has it all over the Society.

I guess this will set the Nurses Union into ‘Strike mode’.
This will shortly be followed by the teachers & bus drivers….again.

gun street girl10:59 am 27 Jul 09

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy said :

Nurses are highly underpaid.

Particularly those in the community (I’m looking at you, Community Aged Care!) – the discrepancy between those in the community and those in the hospital system is criminal. I suspect the figure quoted in that article may be a little under-estimated, however, due to the salary of part time workers being worked into the average, though I may be wrong.

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy10:53 am 27 Jul 09

Nurses are highly underpaid.

here is the link to the report. if the wages are accurate, then I am amazed at how little the nurses actually receive.

http://www.bankwest.com.au/library/scripts/objectifyMedia.aspx?file=pdf/52/12.pdf&str_title=Key Worker Housing Affordability2009 ACT.pdf

I would have thought that south canberra would have been more affordable than other areas, but it appears that I was mistaken.

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