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Housing problems solved by offering sufficiently unattractive houses?

By johnboy - 20 May 2009 55

The ABC delivers us a masterclass in spin based governance. Jon Stanhope is proclaiming success for his multi-faceted housing strategy.

The basis for this claim?

    Sixty cheaper house and land packages were offered for sale at the Brindabella estate at West Macgregor, but Mr Stanhope says only a third were sold.

    The Chief Minister says the clearance rate proves the Government’s affordable housing strategy is meeting demand.

So very few people want to by horrible houses at the edge of no-where and your work is done?

And while we’re at it houses around $360,000 are cheap? You’re not exactly on the bones of your arse if you can swing that kind of finance.

Talk about massaging expectations beyond the event horizon.

2 bedroom flats with rent-to-own schemes, now that’s affordable housing.

What’s Your opinion?


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Housing problems solved by offering sufficiently unattractive houses?
Jim Jones 12:01 pm 20 May 09

chewy14 said :

Thumper said :

West Macgregor is 15 minutes from the city centre. On a bad run it may take you 20 minutes.

And only 1 minute to the sewage treatment plant.
Ah the serenity.

You’ve never been there, have you?

screaming banshee 12:01 pm 20 May 09

chewy14 said :

Where are these small reasonably priced houses?
$360000 for a crap house in West McGregor is not cheap.

Perhaps you’d like to see what $360k will buy you 15 minutes from the centre of any other major city then

chewy14 11:56 am 20 May 09

Thumper said :

West Macgregor is 15 minutes from the city centre. On a bad run it may take you 20 minutes.

And only 1 minute to the sewage treatment plant.
Ah the serenity.

Thumper 11:51 am 20 May 09

West Macgregor is 15 minutes from the city centre. On a bad run it may take you 20 minutes.

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_ 11:51 am 20 May 09

How do you know the houses are crap?

I thought they were brand new.

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_ 11:50 am 20 May 09

What young people dont understand is that like vy the ‘wealthy’ large homeowners of today purchased small reasonably priced housing when they were young rather than buying the 4/5 bedroom 2.5 bathroom with home theatre monstrosity straight up. All the while running old cheap cars.

A lot of people here would laugh if they saw the pieces of $hite cars we had in those days. One of them was so bad that one of the partners of the firm I worked for then asked me not to park it in front of the office!

Jim Jones 11:45 am 20 May 09

How do you know the houses are crap?

chewy14 11:44 am 20 May 09

screaming banshee said :

And while we’re at it houses around $360,000 are cheap?

For a house, yes. If that’s too much for you then consider a unit/townhouse/duplex/dual oc.

Put’s on old man hat….

What young people dont understand is that like vy the ‘wealthy’ large homeowners of today purchased small reasonably priced housing when they were young rather than buying the 4/5 bedroom 2.5 bathroom with home theatre monstrosity straight up. All the while running old cheap cars.

It seems the current generation of first home buyers think they must have the huge house straight away while also have a car each less than 5 years old…then when such a dream is out of reach financially they cry that housing isn’t affordable.

Where are these small reasonably priced houses?
$360000 for a crap house in West McGregor is not cheap.

screaming banshee 11:36 am 20 May 09

And while we’re at it houses around $360,000 are cheap?

For a house, yes. If that’s too much for you then consider a unit/townhouse/duplex/dual oc.

Put’s on old man hat….

What young people dont understand is that like vy the ‘wealthy’ large homeowners of today purchased small reasonably priced housing when they were young rather than buying the 4/5 bedroom 2.5 bathroom with home theatre monstrosity straight up. All the while running old cheap cars.

It seems the current generation of first home buyers think they must have the huge house straight away while also have a car each less than 5 years old…then when such a dream is out of reach financially they cry that housing isn’t affordable.

vg 11:20 am 20 May 09

Standope loves massaging the figures to suit his own agendas

“The Chief Minister says the clearance rate proves the Government’s affordable housing strategy is meeting demand.”

or

That the ‘affordable’ housing you provide is not affordable

Remember people, you voted for him

Jim Jones 10:54 am 20 May 09

Clown Killer said :

We were worried that our world might end when we moved from the inner north to the south, that friends would be too far away and the places we like to visit too hard to reach. Looking back, I can’t imagine what we were worried about.

Yep, I had a similar thing going.

Nothing’s really that far away in Canberra.

Honestly, I’d hardly call West Macgregor ‘the edge of nowhere’. It’s 10-15 minutes away from the City Centre by car.

Clown Killer 10:47 am 20 May 09

We were worried that our world might end when we moved from the inner north to the south, that friends would be too far away and the places we like to visit too hard to reach. Looking back, I can’t imagine what we were worried about.

peterh 10:15 am 20 May 09

for first home buyers to the market, west macgregor may well be perfect. For my family, it is just too far out of the loop of our friends and family. We haven’t even contemplated west macgregor as an option. we are currently engaging in item 2 of vy’s list.

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_ 9:58 am 20 May 09

If people are still buying 400k plus houses, yet there are 360k houses lying unsold, then the implication is that we have a crisis of aspiration, rather than affordability. Of course everyone wants the classy inner city home or unit, but most people have to start somewhere, and West MacGregor seems a good place to me to do so.

If you can’t afford the home you want, you have a few options:
1) Live somewhere very cheap and do what you can to save and improve your income;
2) Buy somewhere cheap and continue to work hard, then in a few years upgrade; or
3) Rent.

I hear the comment too about 2 bedroom units, but there are currently 2 BR units available to rent for under 300 a week, or to be bought for less than 300k.

Also, I offer this advice having spent several years living like a pauper on the edge of town to save for the deposit for my first home, so it’s not like I haven’t been through this myself.

Clown Killer 9:42 am 20 May 09

I agree that $360k is a lot of money, but it’s still cheap for a new house in this market. Whether or not it’s genuinely ‘entry level’ is up for debate. That said, I think that the Government should try to help bring down the cost associated with all forms of housing but cutting red-tape, removing stamp duty etc. not by wasting tax payers money on subsidies and handouts.

If you can’t afford your own home, then you can’t afford it – work harder and save more. It’d what most people had to do.

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