8 August 2013

How to stop Ol' Lawnkiller raining down?

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We cannot stop the Chronicle being dumped on our driveway.

We have “no junk mail” on our letter box. We have accepted the bribe of the Chronicle and now get it delivered electronically. We have made 2 email requests and four phone calls but still it comes.

Our next steps are to threaten to cancel our CT subscription then if that does not stop the Chronicle we will start to look for legal remedies.

Kevin Cox
Ngunnawal

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This was driving me crazy too. We have a huge NO CHRONICLE sign and still it comes. Problem solved by getting some pet birds and using the chronicle for their sh!t. That’s all it’s good for.

screaming banshee5:15 pm 09 Aug 13

OLydia said :

I have found that if I don’t collect the Chronicle, I never receive another one.

Admittedly I still have a Chronicle sitting in the middle of my drive way. But I never get another one until after I remove the one on the drive way to deposit it into my recycling bin (with plastic wrapper in the rubbish) when it turns a little too manky.

I used to regularly pick it up and throw it in the recycling bin plastic and all. You see they still have people sifting through manually looking for the things that shouldn’t be put in. I figure I make it the govts problem they may do something about it…..but then sure enough it started arriving again without the plastic.

In Texas you can shoot them.

I too have tried numerous times to have The Chronicle not be delivered and sadly it started again this week.
I do not understand how any company can get away with this much legal littering. The ACT Government deems the unrecyclable plastic carry bags are not be used for shopping yet it is OK for one company to throw paper wrapped in plastic across peoples’ properties, wanted or not.
I agree it is easy to remove the plastic, throw paper in recycling and plastic in rubbish but what a waste in materials to produce when it is available on line. Even the Public Service is attempting to reduce paper wastage.
What if other free local papers, such as City Weekly, also decide to improve their circulation figures (to assist with advertising profits) by distributing to all properties in Canberra wether wanted or not. Could it mean numerous papers thrown on our lawns each week? Yes most pick up the mess but a lot do not.
And to those who think having unwanted rubbish thrown at your property is something we should accept and not try to stop, you may not be aware that our western ways of creating so much rubbish has contributed to a world rubbish problem.

If I was a 14 year old being paid stuff all to throw the chronicle on every lawn of a street, I would be doing it as quickly and carelessly as possible, I certainly wouldn’t bother actually engaging myself in the process by trying to work out which houses like it and which don’t.

Hell when I was growing up the kids I knew that did do chronicle deliveries didn’t even deliver half of them, they’d dump them in suburban alleys.

I’ve tried everything I can think of to get rid of this blight on my nature strip with, of course, no success.

Perhaps what we need is a class action led by an ambulance-chasing (no win, no pay) lawyer. If s/he won, s/he’d be more than welcome to whatever percentage s/he takes.

troll-sniffer11:03 pm 08 Aug 13

OLydia said :

I have found that if I don’t collect the Chronicle, I never receive another one.

Admittedly I still have a Chronicle sitting in the middle of my drive way. But I never get another one until after I remove the one on the drive way to deposit it into my recycling bin (with plastic wrapper in the rubbish) when it turns a little too manky.

The exception rather than the rule, well at least here in {lower) Campbell.

I have found that if I don’t collect the Chronicle, I never receive another one.

Admittedly I still have a Chronicle sitting in the middle of my drive way. But I never get another one until after I remove the one on the drive way to deposit it into my recycling bin (with plastic wrapper in the rubbish) when it turns a little too manky.

I subscribed to the online version in the hope that it’d stop the waste paper being delivered. No such luck. Numerous emails and complaints later, the crap is still being delivered.

While I understand the annoyance of an unwanted paper being delivered, is it really that frustrating and disagreeable that you would consider spending potential thousands of dollars on legal action?

Please, first world problems indeed!

Picking up the Chronicle. Aint no body got time for that.

justin heywood said :

If the Daily Telegraph is sometimes called the ‘Harlot of Holt St.’ and the Melbourne Age ‘Pravda on the Yarra’. What would The Chronicle be?

Mulch on the Molonglo?

The Gigolo of Giralang?

justin heywood said :

If the Daily Telegraph is sometimes called the ‘Harlot of Holt St.’ and the Melbourne Age ‘Pravda on the Yarra’. What would The Chronicle be?

Mulch on the Molonglo?

Good one.

justin heywood2:26 pm 08 Aug 13

If the Daily Telegraph is sometimes called the ‘Harlot of Holt St.’ and the Melbourne Age ‘Pravda on the Yarra’. What would The Chronicle be?

Mulch on the Molonglo?

Pick it up, Princess.

The Chronicle makes good weed mat. And somebody delivers it. My glass is half full on Thursdays.

Troll-sniffer….. FYQ

Anyone else think its a simple case of littering?

Bonejac said :

Check EPA website about illegal dumping, email Chronicle telling them that they are illegally dumping and if they continue to dump rubbish on your property you will take it further – CC in local government body responsible for litter and environmental services complaints, await sudden end to deluge of unwanted paper products,

EPA ACT
http://www.environment.act.gov.au/environment/environment_protection_authority

also try

Postal industry Ombudsman
http://www.pio.gov.au/making-a-complaint/common-complaint-themes/unaddressed-mail.php

Distribution Standards Board (Advertising and Catalogs)
1800 676 136
dsb@catalogue.asn.au

WOW. you are good. real good. If only your effort went toward important shit. You are the typical bored person that creates work for how many different organisations you listed, over a free newspaper.

You would probably be the person that is first to whinge about inefficient administration systems within the government or private industry, trying to deliver other peoples promises amongst continued “efficiency dividends” and competing priorites such as actual environment protection and the real issues such as yours.

Love your commitment though.

We don’t get it which is a pain, not because I want to read it, but because I’m running out of scrap newspapers to use when I’m servicing the car, starting a campfire, cleaning windows, etc.

troll-sniffer11:33 am 08 Aug 13

Yep. I believe with all that remains of my heart after my last relationship failed dismally though we won’t go into that in case you get bored but seriously she was the one who was at fault not me anyway where was I oh yeah I believe with all that remains of my once proud heart (see above) that the ACT government should with all the powers invested in it that haven’t been modified or removed by the bullying toerags in the federal excuse for a government take whatever steps it takes to investigate the possibility of setting up a steering committee to probe and analyse (strategically of course, sheesh) the likelihood in this increasingly litigious society of mustering enough support in the wider community to risk the formation of a non-partisan tribunal to discuss the merits both positive and negative, non gender-specific of course, of the continued distribution by means other than subscription (opt-in, not opt-out) of that stalwart pillar of the Canberra society, the Chronicle, a paper that itself once was guilty of some rather how shall we put it robust competitive behaviour in its formative days, behaviour that saw the killing off most brutally of its only competitor. As I was saying before you nodded off, yes you there, wake up, the problem that has surfaced in this post is most very very serious and you, Macfarlane, get that smirk off your face, and needs to be dealt with in haste and with the utmost force that a community can muster given the strength of opinions lined up for all free thinking but possibly apathetic citizens to act on in this matter. That is why nothing less than a royal commission into this whole free newspaper thing is in order, m’lud, and the quicker we get onto it the quicker people like Mr Cox of that pillar of neat cleanliness Ngunnawal can get on with his life.

Jammer1 said :

Don’t want the Chronicle on your lawn? Pick it up & place in recycle bin. End of problem.

Well, more point that it’s just a waste. Just like having the phone book delivered. Granted, that’s a lot more paper wasted than 52 copies of the chronicle. I’d be nice to opt out, but I don’t think the person(s) throwing them out of the car are really going to check a list as they do it.

I’m a Ngunnawal resident too, and the Chronicle has just started to arrive each week for the past 4 or 6. I’m sure that’s some sort of record.

Come to think of it, I have a no junk mail sticker and I’m sure the new paper boy just doesn’t give a shit

Jammer1 said :

Don’t want the Chronicle on your lawn? Pick it up & place in recycle bin. End of problem.

But it’s not on my lawn. It’s often in a tree. I’ve emailed, I’ve called and still the Chronicle bombardment continues.
I think the delivery chap might struggle with reading numbers on letterboxes. Not the size of the numbers, just the reading part.

Check EPA website about illegal dumping, email Chronicle telling them that they are illegally dumping and if they continue to dump rubbish on your property you will take it further – CC in local government body responsible for litter and environmental services complaints, await sudden end to deluge of unwanted paper products,

EPA ACT
http://www.environment.act.gov.au/environment/environment_protection_authority

also try

Postal industry Ombudsman
http://www.pio.gov.au/making-a-complaint/common-complaint-themes/unaddressed-mail.php

Distribution Standards Board (Advertising and Catalogs)
1800 676 136
dsb@catalogue.asn.au

neanderthalsis10:40 am 08 Aug 13

Here’s a practical solution for you:

Go outside, pick it up, put it in the bin. True, you will lose about 30 seconds in which you could have disapproved of something else, but hey, that’s life in the big city.

p1 said :

Rather then legal action, you might consider just driving past the Canberra times and flinging a copy of the Chronicle at them each day.

I like

Does anybody still read the chronic Chronicle? They can’t even get the names of Canberra streets and suburb details right. This week they did an article on kangaroo collisions in Chifley and continually referred to “Macfarlane Crescent”. It is actually MacFarland Crescent. And for their information, Sheehan Street is in Pearce, not Chifley. So much for local knowledge in a suburban newspaper.

Jammer1 said :

Don’t want the Chronicle on your lawn? Pick it up & place in recycle bin. End of problem.

I thought the accepted method was to leave them in situ until they turned into a papier mache speed hump?

Don’t want the Chronicle on your lawn? Pick it up & place in recycle bin. End of problem.

As it gets delivered, run out and heavily beat the delivery kid with last weeks issue, gaurantee that it will stop after 2 deliveries.

Rather then legal action, you might consider just driving past the Canberra times and flinging a copy of the Chronicle at them each day.

Wow Kevin Cox. Just wow.

justin heywood9:14 am 08 Aug 13

I always wondered how the ‘opt out electronically’ idea was going to work.

My son used to deliver it, at a pay rate that would have made a slave-owner blush. The only way to make the job even marginally worthwhile is to deliver as many as you can, as fast as you can. There certainly wouldn’t be time to consult a list outside every address.

Still, if an unwanted but free newspaper being delivered to our doors is a problem, our lives are wonderfully comfortable.

Mike Bessenger9:12 am 08 Aug 13

We also have a ‘No Junk Mail’ sticker, and yesterday we got two chronicles.
At this time of year I appreciate it as we always need ‘junk’ to help get the fire started.

Keep up the good work Canberra Times.

I’m not sure that receiving it electronically will stop the low-paid grunt from flinging it at you from his car. It would take more effort on his part to think than to fling, I suspect.

Affirmative Action Man9:10 am 08 Aug 13

I suggest you just give up & accept that it can never be stopped.

Madam Cholet8:51 am 08 Aug 13

Request it electronically instead via their website I believe. Then go in and unsubscribe. I did it this way but chose to still receive the paper version. Strangely though, haven’t received one in sometime, which doesn’t bother me as it goes straight in the recycling.

Ah finally, a real first world problem.

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