Tell the public sector how to do their jobs, win cash

magiccar9 said :

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“I know nothing about this, maybe I should keep quiet,” said no-one ever.

magiccar9 said :

Point 1: I never said they shouldn’t do their jobs – I said they shouldn’t waste time with a pointless ‘public competition’ that will only yield the same results that they could have thought of on their own (only using far more money and time).

Seriously? The IPAA is a private organisation. It can spend its time and money however the hell it wants, and is only accountable to its membership and council. And it isn’t a ‘pointless competition’ – the primary aim of the competition was almost certainly to raise awareness of the IPAA. Job done – we’re talking about it on RiotACT, aren’t we? The IPAA have spent their time and money well.

davo101 said :

magiccar9 said :

Here’s an idea. Stop wasting time thinking of the idiotic competition, developing it, marketing it, then trawling through the entries afterwards.
The time – and consequently money – you saved from avoiding the pointless idea could be spent more productively doing.. oh I don’t know… actual work!

Yeah, how stoopid. The IPAA spending time thinking about improving public administration is as pointless as the Cancer Council worrying about cancer prevention.

magiccar9 said :

cut the dead wood from the top who do nothing but delegate work.

Excellent idea and we’ll get the magic pixies to do it for free.

magiccar9 said :

Remove work perks (such as the use of government vehicles outside business hours).

Already done.

magiccar9 said :

Introduce a system that maps employee productivity against industry data, and send under-performing employees – of which I know there would be a vast amount – out on their asses.
You could then use the money saved to hire more competent employees or pass the savings on to the community.

Once you figure out what you are going to measure to determine “productivity” I’m sure the APS will be quite happy to game the system to make sure they pass with flying colours.

OK so,

Point 1: I never said they shouldn’t do their jobs – I said they shouldn’t waste time with a pointless ‘public competition’ that will only yield the same results that they could have thought of on their own (only using far more money and time).

Point 2: Or a single manager could put in a solid days work instead of paying two people to do half the job each…

Point 3: If it’s already been done, how come I still see Government plated vehicles driving around on weekends with kiddies in the back? The best one I saw recently was a mum dropping off the kids at netball in one. So clearly their plan isn’t working.

Point 4: That was an idea I rattled off the top of my head in a few mins. Obviously I wouldn’t have the slightest clue on how they would want to measure productivity, it’s not what I’m trained in nor interested in. I agree with you however about them gaming the system, they seem to be good at fixing things to make themselves look good in the public eye.

Although I’m not pretending it would solve *all* the problems, getting rid of “performance management systems” etc and just empowering managers to actually sack people when they have a good reason would be a massive start. Don’t imagine the effect would be limited to the people that get removed – it would actually give an incentive to work to those who, having been promoted to their level of incompetence, are skating by doing the minimum to not get fired.

magiccar9 said :

Here’s an idea. Stop wasting time thinking of the idiotic competition, developing it, marketing it, then trawling through the entries afterwards.
The time – and consequently money – you saved from avoiding the pointless idea could be spent more productively doing.. oh I don’t know… actual work!

Yeah, how stoopid. The IPAA spending time thinking about improving public administration is as pointless as the Cancer Council worrying about cancer prevention.

magiccar9 said :

cut the dead wood from the top who do nothing but delegate work.

Excellent idea and we’ll get the magic pixies to do it for free.

magiccar9 said :

Remove work perks (such as the use of government vehicles outside business hours).

Already done.

magiccar9 said :

Introduce a system that maps employee productivity against industry data, and send under-performing employees – of which I know there would be a vast amount – out on their asses.
You could then use the money saved to hire more competent employees or pass the savings on to the community.

Once you figure out what you are going to measure to determine “productivity” I’m sure the APS will be quite happy to game the system to make sure they pass with flying colours.

magiccar9 said :

** My idea to “make the public service smarter, better, and broader”… cut the dead wood from the top who do nothing but delegate work. .

Actually the whole point of being in senior management is that you delegate work…senior managers who want to do the actual work are the biggest roadblock in any organisation

magiccar9 said :

Here’s an idea. Stop wasting time thinking of the idiotic competition, developing it, marketing it, then trawling through the entries afterwards.
The time – and consequently money – you saved from avoiding the pointless idea could be spent more productively doing.. oh I don’t know… actual work!

Ummm… this kind of thing is the “actual work” of the IPAA….

Here’s an idea. Stop wasting time thinking of the idiotic competition, developing it, marketing it, then trawling through the entries afterwards.
The time – and consequently money – you saved from avoiding the pointless idea could be spent more productively doing.. oh I don’t know… actual work!

** My idea to “make the public service smarter, better, and broader”… cut the dead wood from the top who do nothing but delegate work. Remove work perks (such as the use of government vehicles outside business hours). Introduce a system that maps employee productivity against industry data, and send under-performing employees – of which I know there would be a vast amount – out on their asses.
You could then use the money saved to hire more competent employees or pass the savings on to the community.

The IPAA is not the APS. Neither is the CPA, IPA, IEAust, AMA,…