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If you need to say “I am not a racist”, you are

By johnboy 9 May 2013 40

I’ve just deleted a little rant about approval for an Islamic school because:

    1. If you already know you’ll need to defend yourself against charges of racism that’s a handy clue you’re being racist.

    2. If we’re going to let Christian schools flower like topsy over the landscape then who’s to deny any other creed from doing likewise?

    3. I’m not going to die in a ditch defending your right to free speech so you can be stupid and racist on this website. Start your own blog. Let us know how you get on.

That is all.

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resident_weevil 1:26 am 11 May 13

Proboscus said :

resident_weevil said :

Proboscus said :

I believe that religion is either a mental health issue or just a weekly gathering for suckers.

Any person who hears, sees or feels God, Jesus, Allah, Ginesh or Yoda – is a raving loony or an idiot.

Any person that believes you’ll get 72 virgins if you commit a terrorist act – is a raving loony or an idiot.

Any person who dresses in clothing to appease their religion – is a raving loony or an idiot.

There are many more examples but I’m sure you see my point.

If that’s all you have to say about religion then you are a small minded fool.

Aren’t you supposed to turn the other cheek or something?

Look if you and your imaginary friend has taken offence to what I said, may I be struck down by lightning, pestilence or some other imaginary biblical thing…

I’m never quite sure exactly which one the other cheek was supposed to be, but Jesus said “blessed are the big noses” didn’t he? So i think you’re safe.

poetix 12:43 pm 10 May 13

Proboscus said :

resident_weevil said :

Proboscus said :

I believe that religion is either a mental health issue or just a weekly gathering for suckers.

Any person who hears, sees or feels God, Jesus, Allah, Ginesh or Yoda – is a raving loony or an idiot.

Any person that believes you’ll get 72 virgins if you commit a terrorist act – is a raving loony or an idiot.

Any person who dresses in clothing to appease their religion – is a raving loony or an idiot.

There are many more examples but I’m sure you see my point.

If that’s all you have to say about religion then you are a small minded fool.

Aren’t you supposed to turn the other cheek or something?

Look if you and your imaginary friend has taken offence to what I said, may I be struck down by lightning, pestilence or some other imaginary biblical thing…

Proboscus does more for attracting people to Christianity (and other beliefs) than he or she will ever know. Hats off.

Deref 12:42 pm 10 May 13

Watson said :

If you are religious, why would you have to pay a fortune to avoid having to send your child to an atheist school?

There are atheist schools now?

Damn! I wish I’d known that when I sent my kids to their (excellent) public schools!

Darkfalz 12:30 pm 10 May 13

I do not racially discriminate, but I am a racist. One is how you treat other people, one is how you think. Racism (or “tribalism”) is a natural survival instinct for human beings.

Islam is not a race, by the way. It’s part religion, part political ideology.

Ghettosmurf87 12:17 pm 10 May 13

Watson said :

I am not religious and don’t have a problem with funding religious schools at all. I would prefer for them to all become completely publicly funded. I don’t get at all why those few hours of religious instruction a week and kids attending a mass now and then would make you think those kids don’t deserve to have their education – for the majority no different from what they get taught in public schools – funded by tax payers. It reeks of intolerance.

If you are religious, why would you have to pay a fortune to avoid having to send your child to an atheist school? Try to imagine it being the other way round, religious schools being government funded and non-religious schools not. What would you do?

I wish people would stop being so arrogant by judging everyone as if they have a monopoly on the truth and what is right and wrong.

There is a difference between an “atheist” school and a “non-religious” school.

Religious teaching has no place coming from the government. I for one want nothing to do with a government which tells me which religion (or any religion) to believe.

Government schools teach the prescribed curriculum and do not delve into religious doctrine other than as part of history/ethics/social studies.

They also do not charge you fees for the right to attend.

And don’t start the argument that science is just another set of beliefs. You’ll lose any credibility you might have had to begin with.

Watson 12:05 pm 10 May 13

I am not religious and don’t have a problem with funding religious schools at all. I would prefer for them to all become completely publicly funded. I don’t get at all why those few hours of religious instruction a week and kids attending a mass now and then would make you think those kids don’t deserve to have their education – for the majority no different from what they get taught in public schools – funded by tax payers. It reeks of intolerance.

If you are religious, why would you have to pay a fortune to avoid having to send your child to an atheist school? Try to imagine it being the other way round, religious schools being government funded and non-religious schools not. What would you do?

I wish people would stop being so arrogant by judging everyone as if they have a monopoly on the truth and what is right and wrong.

DrKoresh 11:44 am 10 May 13

Proboscus said :

resident_weevil said :

Proboscus said :

I believe that religion is either a mental health issue or just a weekly gathering for suckers.

Any person who hears, sees or feels God, Jesus, Allah, Ginesh or Yoda – is a raving loony or an idiot.

Any person that believes you’ll get 72 virgins if you commit a terrorist act – is a raving loony or an idiot.

Any person who dresses in clothing to appease their religion – is a raving loony or an idiot.

There are many more examples but I’m sure you see my point.

If that’s all you have to say about religion then you are a small minded fool.

Aren’t you supposed to turn the other cheek or something?

Look if you and your imaginary friend has taken offence to what I said, may I be struck down by lightning, pestilence or some other imaginary biblical thing…

I’m not religious and I reckon weevil’s summation was pretty dead on.

rosscoact 10:55 am 10 May 13

resident_weevil said :

Proboscus said :

I believe that religion is either a mental health issue or just a weekly gathering for suckers.

Any person who hears, sees or feels God, Jesus, Allah, Ginesh or Yoda – is a raving loony or an idiot.

Any person that believes you’ll get 72 virgins if you commit a terrorist act – is a raving loony or an idiot.

Any person who dresses in clothing to appease their religion – is a raving loony or an idiot.

There are many more examples but I’m sure you see my point.

If that’s all you have to say about religion then you are a small minded fool.

Troll feeding only encourages them

Proboscus 10:35 am 10 May 13

resident_weevil said :

Proboscus said :

I believe that religion is either a mental health issue or just a weekly gathering for suckers.

Any person who hears, sees or feels God, Jesus, Allah, Ginesh or Yoda – is a raving loony or an idiot.

Any person that believes you’ll get 72 virgins if you commit a terrorist act – is a raving loony or an idiot.

Any person who dresses in clothing to appease their religion – is a raving loony or an idiot.

There are many more examples but I’m sure you see my point.

If that’s all you have to say about religion then you are a small minded fool.

Aren’t you supposed to turn the other cheek or something?

Look if you and your imaginary friend has taken offence to what I said, may I be struck down by lightning, pestilence or some other imaginary biblical thing…

resident_weevil 12:02 am 10 May 13

Proboscus said :

I believe that religion is either a mental health issue or just a weekly gathering for suckers.

Any person who hears, sees or feels God, Jesus, Allah, Ginesh or Yoda – is a raving loony or an idiot.

Any person that believes you’ll get 72 virgins if you commit a terrorist act – is a raving loony or an idiot.

Any person who dresses in clothing to appease their religion – is a raving loony or an idiot.

There are many more examples but I’m sure you see my point.

If that’s all you have to say about religion then you are a small minded fool.

54-11 10:27 pm 09 May 13

chewy14 said :

poetix said :

Well done ED.

Hope the fastidiousness extends to sexism too…

And vegetarianism too.

As long as it’s not extended to cyclists as well. That’s a bridge too far for RA…

dpm 10:13 pm 09 May 13

chewy14 said :

poetix said :

Well done ED.

Hope the fastidiousness extends to sexism too…

And vegetarianism too.

….and I’m left handed….

LSWCHP 8:02 pm 09 May 13

Hey JB, righteous stuff.

Still, like Ben_Dover and a couple of others, I think you’re right on 2 and 3, but number 1 is a little contentious.

As I mentioned in another thread recently, I don’t care about skin colour, height, weight, sexual preferences, religion, or any other damn thing. It’s what you say and what you do that matters. Despite that, I’ve been told that I’m a racist because I’ve been critical of arsehats who are black. I wasn’t critical of the arsehat because they had black skin, I criticised what they did. If they had been white, brown or any other colour, I still would’ve criticised what they did. I felt a little aggrieved at being told I was a racist, but what the hell. We live in an imperfect world and there are foolish people everywhere.

The other day my 12 year old son said “Dad, I hate two things: people who make sweeping generalisations about others based on their nationality, and the Dutch”. We grinned at each other. 🙂

cross 7:47 pm 09 May 13

Proboscus said :

you’ll get 72 virgins if you commit a terrorist act –

but they don’t say what sex these virgins will be might some very dissapointed terrorists in paradise

miz 7:43 pm 09 May 13

I’m with deref on this.

Proboscus 6:39 pm 09 May 13

I believe that religion is either a mental health issue or just a weekly gathering for suckers.

Any person who hears, sees or feels God, Jesus, Allah, Ginesh or Yoda – is a raving loony or an idiot.

Any person that believes you’ll get 72 virgins if you commit a terrorist act – is a raving loony or an idiot.

Any person who dresses in clothing to appease their religion – is a raving loony or an idiot.

There are many more examples but I’m sure you see my point.

dungfungus 5:56 pm 09 May 13

p1 said :

I pass an Islamic school every day on the way to and from work. I have yet to notice the world (or even a small part of it) end due to said schools existence. Although I did hit and kill a cockatoo on the road outside it one day which was very sad. Perhaps god hates native birds?

Maybe it was a suicide cockatoo?

Kalfour 5:20 pm 09 May 13

cross said :

Baggy said :

I know of no religion which excludes based on race,

Mormons and 7th day adventist do not allow black people into heaven

Mormons changed their mind about that in the 70s. They let black people into Heaven now. I’m not sure how they feel about other racial groups though.

rosscoact 4:28 pm 09 May 13

watto23 said :

I think like many others government funding of religious schools is the main issue. I couldn’t care less for what religion it is or how many get built or where they get built.

.

Why is that watto? They have to meet curriculum measures to get funding and they are open to everyone like other non-government schools and many are even low fee. Surely it just gives choice and diversity to people rather than an homogeneous mediocre education?

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