11 December 2013

iPhones for everyone

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The SMH has a story on the fruit wars in the public service with Blackberry on the way out as Apple, years late, is slowly adopted.

One wonders what will be supplanting Android by the time it starts to gain traction.

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The only reason it’s Apple/iOS is because that’s what important people want. Therefore it’s what ASD certs and what they’ll get. It’s a prat of a system to lock-down to a Protected security level and retain fancy pants iOS functionality (which it mostly doesn’t). M$ makes way more sense, but it ain’t a niche (yet).

BelcoMan said :

Late Follow Up.

I have now been advised that NSW Police is also moving from Blackberry to Iphones. Rollout has commenced

🙂 Happy new year, crims.

Late Follow Up.

I have now been advised that NSW Police is also moving from Blackberry to Iphones. Rollout has commenced

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd6:44 am 16 Dec 13

Pitchka said :

Ozi said :

but it does certainly keep the quality of Apps higher

That might explain why there are hundreds of fart apps in the App Store.. This your idea of maintaining high quality apps?

Excuse me, but fart cat is great!

Deref said :

Talk of security here, in this context, is highly amusing.

Apple, Microsoft and Google all confirm publicly that they supply data to the NSA and other “security” agencies, as do all the telcos. The best possible thing you could say about the security of devices running any of those three operating systems is that most of the monitoring is probably done by our Great and Powerful Friends ™. If that makes you feel comfortable, then it’s all good. If you have nothing to hide, etc.

BTW, why do you think the government blocked Huawei from participating in the NBN? Checked the chips in your modem recently? And did you read about the phone tapping that Rupert Moloch’s newspapers were doing in the UK?

I don’t particularly care who intercepts and monitors my traffic, but I do object strenuously to the principle that, as far as our governments are concerned, privacy is a right we no longer have. I’m just old fashioned like that.

Scott McNealy, founder of Sun Microsystems, said many years ago “You have zero privacy – get over it”. How right he was.

Remember, kids – don’t use your phone or your computer to transmit anything you wouldn’t want your Granny, your “security” agency, your government, your police, the press, or pretty much anyone else who cares to listen, to hear.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/02/revealed-australian-spy-agency-offered-to-share-data-about-ordinary-citizens

Talk of security here, in this context, is highly amusing.

Apple, Microsoft and Google all confirm publicly that they supply data to the NSA and other “security” agencies, as do all the telcos. The best possible thing you could say about the security of devices running any of those three operating systems is that most of the monitoring is probably done by our Great and Powerful Friends ™. If that makes you feel comfortable, then it’s all good. If you have nothing to hide, etc.

BTW, why do you think the government blocked Huawei from participating in the NBN? Checked the chips in your modem recently? And did you read about the phone tapping that Rupert Moloch’s newspapers were doing in the UK?

I don’t particularly care who intercepts and monitors my traffic, but I do object strenuously to the principle that, as far as our governments are concerned, privacy is a right we no longer have. I’m just old fashioned like that.

Scott McNealy, founder of Sun Microsystems, said many years ago “You have zero privacy – get over it”. How right he was.

Remember, kids – don’t use your phone or your computer to transmit anything you wouldn’t want your Granny, your “security” agency, your government, your police, the press, or pretty much anyone else who cares to listen, to hear.

yeah the reason people don’t like apple iOS devices is the reason they are secure and ideal for enterprises. that said some of the enterpise support apps for blackberry and apple do support android. Its just a pain to administer and thats the issue.

Deref said :

Android devices dramatically outnumber Apple devices everywhere but in the US:

in Australia, Android accounts for 62.4% of market share and saw a 4.2% rise in the last 12-months. iOS, on the other hand, flatlined at 28.5% with a 0.1% loss in market share.

I’m not denying they have a majority of market share here, and even more so in developing markets with budget phones that all run Android or Windows.

I’m merely saying:

1. It is harder to get your shit secure when you have a range of new and older OS’s to write for, each with differing quirks and security pitfalls, as well as 24 different choices of phones manufactured to run Android (source is android itself: http://www.android.com/devices/?country=all)
2. Just because China and India and their swelling middle classes can now afford cheap android phones doesn’t mean the affluent Australian public service should rush to adopt the same flawed hardware;
3. Only 16% of Android users are on the latest versions of Android (Source is a pro-android article: https://securityledger.com/2013/07/android-founder-install-base-fragmentation-no-big-deal/); and
4. If they can get Android to a relatively secure level for the Australian PS, then they should absolutely roll it out there. The fact they haven’t yet probably has something to do with points 1 – 3. The more choice of secure hard/soft/flaccid ware the better.

~Ozi.

Oh and fart apps are pretty low brow, sure, but at least they don’t spy on you and transmit where you were when you made an hilarious sound effect.

Skidbladnir said :

*watches as everybody cherrypicks news articles to justify their brand choice*

+1

Re “One wonders what will be supplanting Android by the time it starts to gain traction” – Android devices dramatically outnumber Apple devices everywhere but in the US:

in Australia, Android accounts for 62.4% of market share and saw a 4.2% rise in the last 12-months. iOS, on the other hand, flatlined at 28.5% with a 0.1% loss in market share.

traction in the APS, not the wider community where its already dominant.

Ozi said :

but it does certainly keep the quality of Apps higher

That might explain why there are hundreds of fart apps in the App Store.. This your idea of maintaining high quality apps?

*watches as everybody cherrypicks news articles to justify their brand choice*

Android/Windows phones still have a number of issues, most notably the huge range of different OS’s currently being run on them and the range of security flaws both in the OS and the Apps available. I don’t like the restrictive and controlling nature of the Apple App store, but it does certainly keep the quality of Apps higher and weeds out those that transmit metadata without your knowledge.

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/dec/06/android-app-50m-downloads-sent-data-advertisers et. al.

Solidarity said :

makes sense in the corporate world because everything else is a Microsoft product.

That’s what they want you to think.

I wonder if Windows Phone will gain traction… makes sense in the corporate world because everything else is a Microsoft product.

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