23 January 2009

Is There More To Life Than Soccer? [Not, it seems, if you're Steve Doszpot]

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A few months in the job and photocopier salesman turned MLA, Steve ‘SoccerBoy’ Doszpot doesn’t seem to be able to do anything more than comment on his pet love of soccer:

Is SoccerBoy deliberately trying to get supporters of Union, League and Australian Rules off-side by referring to this foreign game as “football” or simply too out of touch to know any better? More significantly, given that SoccerBoy sought election twice before getting elected, surely he could make some useful comments on education, disability services and the other areas that he is serves as shadow minister for!

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It’s wogball. Nothing more, nothing less.

TroyWilliams3:55 pm 23 Jan 09

Either phrase works, but in Australia, if you say ’soccer’ then at least 100% of anyone listening knows what you’re talking about.

That says it all really.

p1 said :

Since the end result of him doing his job would be the efficient sale of photocopiers (amongst other things), then referring to him as a photocopier sales man would be typical humour by understatement.

regardless, if he wants to fight for an A-league team for canberra, more power to him.

Swaggie said :

“wankers like you”

Just gotta love the articulate nature of our baby liberals….

One can be articulate without being a wanker about it 😉

peterh said :

erm, jakez, maybe he doesn’t know about 3 simultaneous posts and you are a nutbag?

Yeah I was really only in that so that I could make my pansexual crack.

PM said :

Pansexual?

…I’ve clearly spent too much time talking with socialist alternative and the uber feminists on campus.

Since the end result of him doing his job would be the efficient sale of photocopiers (amongst other things), then referring to him as a photocopier sales man would be typical humour by understatement.

for the record, steve wasn’t a photocopier salesman, he was the branch manager of Canon Canberra. bit of a difference.

BerraBoy68 said :

Soccer v’s Football – What a pedantic argument especially as everybody here would be aware from the kOP that Steve Doszpot is talking about what used to be called ‘soccer’ but is now officially known as ‘Football’.

And gee, a local MLA backing his own city’s highly successful women’s team and a bid to include a local mens team at the National level. Now WTF is he thinking!?

that we don’t have a national team in the sport I refer to as english football, and at least one person is supporting it…

Soccer v’s Football – What a pedantic argument especially as everybody here would be aware from the kOP that Steve Doszpot is talking about what used to be called ‘soccer’ but is now officially known as ‘Football’.

And gee, a local MLA backing his own city’s highly successful women’s team and a bid to include a local mens team at the National level. Now WTF is he thinking!?

For brevity’s sake when I enter a pub to find no sport on the plasma screens I look to the landlord and ask him to put the football on.

Kinda arrogant that you would expect this to get you soccer in anything but a soccer specific club.

I can’t get over how people can get excited about an hour and a half long game with no points scored.

Although I did learn something new today. I’ve never heard the term “Association Football” before.

PM said :

Pansexual?

maybe engages in acts on a stove?

jakez said :

Nambucco Deliria said :

jakez said :

chewy14 said :

I know if i walked into a pub and asked for the “football” to be put on, and there was a game of Rugby League, Rugby Union, AFL and Soccer on at the same time, the Barkeep’s obvious answer would be “Which One?”

And the difference is that most fans are happy to share the word, except for the soccer militants.

3 post nutbag.

“Wanker”
“penis measuring contest”
“nutbag”

Is there some sort of homoerotic subtext I’m missing here?

Not really seeing as homosexual, bisexual, pansexual, and heterosexual men all have male genitalia.

…except for the pansexuals possibly, but I think that’s more to do with not recognising the concept of gender rather than genitalia.

erm, jakez, maybe he doesn’t know about 3 simultaneous posts and you are a nutbag?

re steve doszpot, he has been an MLA for how long exactly? maybe we should see what else he does with his new found powers, before we judge him as an incompetent.

Nambucco Deliria said :

jakez said :

chewy14 said :

I know if i walked into a pub and asked for the “football” to be put on, and there was a game of Rugby League, Rugby Union, AFL and Soccer on at the same time, the Barkeep’s obvious answer would be “Which One?”

And the difference is that most fans are happy to share the word, except for the soccer militants.

3 post nutbag.

“Wanker”
“penis measuring contest”
“nutbag”

Is there some sort of homoerotic subtext I’m missing here?

Not really seeing as homosexual, bisexual, pansexual, and heterosexual men all have male genitalia.

…except for the pansexuals possibly, but I think that’s more to do with not recognising the concept of gender rather than genitalia.

Let’s all tone down the abuse eh?

Holden Caulfield1:18 pm 23 Jan 09

FWIW here’s my rules, in order of priority and importance, haha…

Aussie Rules = Footy.
Soccer = Football.
Rugby Union = Union.
Rugby League = League.

Simple.

Changing tack, I must point out how much it irks me that people refer to the game of Aussie Rules as “AFL”. No, that is the name of one league, not the game itself. One never refers to the game of Rugby League as “NRL”, or Union as “ARU” and certainly not football as “A-league”. Great result for the arseclowns in AFL house, but shit for the rest of us.

Mr Evil said :

Kramer said :

Any sport where the foot contacts the ball to score a goal = football

Unless, of course, your name happens to be Diego Maradona.

Anyway Soccer/Football should be renamed something more appropriate like, Diveball or Hugball as taking a dive & rolling around like your leg’s been smashed in 30 places whenever an opposition player attempts to tackle you, or running around hugging your team mates seems to take up a large amount time in the game.

Dozpots a tool – but he’s really no greater tool than any other of the MLAs we seem to have in Canberra.

Footy should be renamed to somthing else as well like fingering, crack poking, undie sniffing etc….

Kramer said :

Any sport where the foot contacts the ball to score a goal = football

Unless, of course, your name happens to be Diego Maradona.

Anyway Soccer/Football should be renamed something more appropriate like, Diveball or Hugball as taking a dive & rolling around like your leg’s been smashed in 30 places whenever an opposition player attempts to tackle you, or running around hugging your team mates seems to take up a large amount time in the game.

Dozpots a tool – but he’s really no greater tool than any other of the MLAs we seem to have in Canberra.

Nambucco Deliria12:10 pm 23 Jan 09

jakez said :

chewy14 said :

I know if i walked into a pub and asked for the “football” to be put on, and there was a game of Rugby League, Rugby Union, AFL and Soccer on at the same time, the Barkeep’s obvious answer would be “Which One?”

And the difference is that most fans are happy to share the word, except for the soccer militants.

3 post nutbag.

“Wanker”
“penis measuring contest”
“nutbag”

Is there some sort of homoerotic subtext I’m missing here?

chewy14 said :

I know if i walked into a pub and asked for the “football” to be put on, and there was a game of Rugby League, Rugby Union, AFL and Soccer on at the same time, the Barkeep’s obvious answer would be “Which One?”

And the difference is that most fans are happy to share the word, except for the soccer militants.

3 post nutbag.

And I love how you go ‘TAKE THAT’ as if you don’t realise I was making fun of you when I said ‘take that’. You really got me too, burnt to the crisp am I.

Nambucco Deliria said :

jakez said :

It is exactly because of people like you Nambucco that I will work for the rest of my life to ensure that Soccer is called nothing but Soccer.

I don’t actually care about it, I just hate the wankers like you who present stupid arguments.

Football is football because it is. TAKE THAT! You just do your sport a disservice.

If you want to get technical mate, then it’s Association Football not Football. Hypocrite.

Glad to be of service. It’s nice to have a purpose in life, and now you’ve got one.

On that technical note, I’m not sure what you mean. I think by now we’ve established that what you know as ‘soccer’ is Association football; For brevity’s sake when I enter a pub to find no sport on the plasma screens I look to the landlord and ask him to put the football on. Are you saying I should ask for the ‘Association football’ to be put on?
I’m assuming that you’d ask for the ‘Australian (rules) football’ to be put on if you were in a similar situation? Or is it only ‘soccer’ fans who must now refer to their favourite sport only by it’s full technical nomenclature?

Association football isn’t my sport (Cricket is actually my favourite sport)- it’s the sport of billions all over the world, most of whom don’t even know that Aussie rules exists. And they call it football.

TAKE THAT!

No mate I’m not saying that at all. I don’t actually care about the ‘who is football debate’. I don’t object to soccer fans calling it football, I care about the militant idiots like yourself making it a penis measuring contest. In a pub i expect you to say whatever you need to say to get your message across in accordance with your personal ethics.

Quite frankly, I don’t care what sport you like or how popular your sports are in relation to mine. I don’t base my likes on popularity and it means very little to me whether soccer becomes more popular in Australia or not, or whether the rest of the world doesn’t know that Aussie Rules exist

I know if i walked into a pub and asked for the “football” to be put on, and there was a game of Rugby League, Rugby Union, AFL and Soccer on at the same time, the Barkeep’s obvious answer would be “Which One?”

I’d like to present a third option, as used by my late grandfather; to wit: “y’know – that game wogs play”

Nambucco Deliria11:22 am 23 Jan 09

astrojax said :

And Aussie Rules and Gridiron can call themselves what they like. They don’t really count.

great nambucco, brilliant argument. aussie rules (‘footy’, ‘rules’, ‘afl’ – se above) does count – it is australia’s own national code.

and there is no game called ‘gridiron’, as also noted above – it is ‘american football’, and the field upon which it is played is a ‘gridiron’.

and ‘football’, as pointed out above, is ‘association football’, hence ‘soccer’ from the ‘soc’ in association. suck that up. then shut up if you’ve nothing constructive to add…

I didn’t realise we were having a constructive argument.

And Aussie Rules and Gridiron can call themselves what they like. They don’t really count.

great nambucco, brilliant argument. aussie rules (‘footy’, ‘rules’, ‘afl’ – se above) does count – it is australia’s own national code.

and there is no game called ‘gridiron’, as also noted above – it is ‘american football’, and the field upon which it is played is a ‘gridiron’.

and ‘football’, as pointed out above, is ‘association football’, hence ‘soccer’ from the ‘soc’ in association. suck that up. then shut up if you’ve nothing constructive to add…

Nambucco Deliria11:02 am 23 Jan 09

jakez said :

It is exactly because of people like you Nambucco that I will work for the rest of my life to ensure that Soccer is called nothing but Soccer.

I don’t actually care about it, I just hate the wankers like you who present stupid arguments.

Football is football because it is. TAKE THAT! You just do your sport a disservice.

If you want to get technical mate, then it’s Association Football not Football. Hypocrite.

Glad to be of service. It’s nice to have a purpose in life, and now you’ve got one.

On that technical note, I’m not sure what you mean. I think by now we’ve established that what you know as ‘soccer’ is Association football; For brevity’s sake when I enter a pub to find no sport on the plasma screens I look to the landlord and ask him to put the football on. Are you saying I should ask for the ‘Association football’ to be put on?
I’m assuming that you’d ask for the ‘Australian (rules) football’ to be put on if you were in a similar situation? Or is it only ‘soccer’ fans who must now refer to their favourite sport only by it’s full technical nomenclature?

Association football isn’t my sport (Cricket is actually my favourite sport)- it’s the sport of billions all over the world, most of whom don’t even know that Aussie rules exists. And they call it football.

TAKE THAT!

He could have been a bit more articulate with the title of that second media release too!

“wankers like you”

Just gotta love the articulate nature of our baby liberals….

Maybe Steve just doesn’t want to show up his lazy leader?

In reality his indolence is loyalty!

Wow, who would have thought things would get so petty yet so heated over a ball game?

We take sport way too seriously.

And what is this ‘The’ you speak of?

Dozpot is a d*ck, also.

Thankyou.

It is exactly because of people like you Nambucco that I will work for the rest of my life to ensure that Soccer is called nothing but Soccer.

I don’t actually care about it, I just hate the wankers like you who present stupid arguments.

Football is football because it is. TAKE THAT! You just do your sport a disservice.

If you want to get technical mate, then it’s Association Football not Football. Hypocrite.

Nambucco Deliria10:02 am 23 Jan 09

jakez said :

Nambucco Deliria said :

Steady Eddie said :

The only reason it’s called football in Europe is because it’s the only major code. In this country where we have four major codes (five if you count gridiron) it is ludacris to persist with this nonsense of calling it football. It is soccer, nothing else.

No Eddie. It’s called Football because it’s played with the feet.

Whereas in all other sports, the feet are amputated just before game time.

Not so, obviously. But, goalkeepers and throw ins aside, the ball is played by players with their feet. As opposed to handball, which is, obviously played with the hands, and all other forms of ‘football’ where the ball spends an awful lot of time in the hands.

In summary:
Football is football. It is not soccer.
Rugby Union is Rugby Union. It is not football.
Rugby League is Rugby League. It is not football.

And Aussie Rules and Gridiron can call themselves what they like. They don’t really count.

Nambucco Deliria said :

Steady Eddie said :

The only reason it’s called football in Europe is because it’s the only major code. In this country where we have four major codes (five if you count gridiron) it is ludacris to persist with this nonsense of calling it football. It is soccer, nothing else.

No Eddie. It’s called Football because it’s played with the feet.

Whereas in all other sports, the feet are amputated just before game time.

Any sport where the foot contacts the ball to score a goal = football

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football

The levels of foot to ball contact vary in each game, but all games have some form of goal.

Now back the OP thoughts, and your comments on how crap Dozpot is…

I’m happy for soccer fans to call their game Association Football. That is the name of their sport, not football.

If they want to call it football, they can’t talk trash about everyone else calling their sports football either.

I’d just like to take this opportunity to point out that Aussie Rules was the first of the sports to have a codified set of rules, thus everyone else can bugger off… J/k.

I have to say, when I read the headline in my email, I did not immediately think of soccer. Then when I realised what he was doing, it every so slightly irked me.

goose said :

It is called Football all over the world except here because you called your pointy handball game football!! (go figure)

Admittedly the great Polly Farmer did revolutionise the sport in the 60’s by making the handball an integral attacking part of the game, However I certainly hope you are not pointing your targets at Aussie Rules when you make that mundane, ever so lame spray.

Nambucco Deliria9:44 am 23 Jan 09

Steady Eddie said :

The only reason it’s called football in Europe is because it’s the only major code. In this country where we have four major codes (five if you count gridiron) it is ludacris to persist with this nonsense of calling it football. It is soccer, nothing else.

No Eddie. It’s called Football because it’s played with the feet.

FFS, this is a more cyclical argument than the bikes vs cars vs pedestrians debate.

Suck it up! Either phrase works, but in Australia, if you say ‘soccer’ then at least 100% of anyone listening knows what you’re talking about.

‘soccer’ emanates from ‘association football’ and steady eddie alludes to it being the dominant code – though of course they play rugby at a high level in the uk and in both france and italy.

the correct nomenclature for ‘gridiron’ is ‘american football’ (hence, ‘football’ – which is why the yanks also call it ‘soccer’), with the aforementioned gridiron being the pitch upon which the game is played.

but calling soccer ‘football’ here isn’t a bad thing, as we have our football codes here generally called ‘rugby’, ‘league’ and ‘footy’ or ‘aussie rules’ or ‘rules’, leaving the full term, ‘football’ quite avaialble and thus allowing easier and more collegiate dialogue with our global friends of the world game on the matter.

so no, eddie, not ‘nothing else’.

Steady Eddie said :

The only reason it’s called football in Europe is because it’s the only major code.

No, I think the reason they call it football in the rest of the world is that is what it’s actually called.

We’re the odd one’s out here.

..and Union and League are not “foreign” games?

Steady Eddie9:14 am 23 Jan 09

The only reason it’s called football in Europe is because it’s the only major code. In this country where we have four major codes (five if you count gridiron) it is ludacris to persist with this nonsense of calling it football. It is soccer, nothing else.

It is called Football all over the world except here because you called your pointy handball game football!! (go figure)

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