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It seems in the Public Service the world does owe you a living

By johnboy 16 November 2012 70

The Canberra Times has the endlessly depressing news that the Administrative Appeals Tribunal has ruled that trying to help a poorly performing employee improve is now “bullying”.

Feet up on the desk time our public service friends.

Nothing can be done now.

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kagey 9:51 am 18 May 13

Performance is a vexed issue for the public service. They don’t know what it is. Especially the so-called policy departments where a thought bubble from a politician or senior public servant is examined and reworked into something feasible, only to see it ignored, forgotten or the original sponsor out of political favour. When that thought bubble hits the round file, they just take another out of the queue and repeat, until retirement comes. To hear these exalted ones tell it, they are making a massive and essential contribution to the “life of the nation”. I guess in the face of a dull and inconsequential reality, it’s nice to latch on to a wildly inflated narrative.
Having said that it would seem pretty clear cut that irrespective of effectiveness, a person fails to, or seems incapable of, performing assigned tasks. Yes, there are always circumstances, but seemingly the public service self-selects for people who seem to have problems, judging from the expanding non-operative/compo lists. The extended ability to appeal and second-guess every decision actually doesn’t help. It takes too much time and is probably counter-productive to already troubled people who are encouraged to maintain a sense of grievance of an extended period of time. Not healthy.

CraigT 7:59 am 18 May 13

Jim Jones said :

dpm said :

pink little birdie said :

also if the now unemployed public servant can’t find another job here they just go back to their home town.
Switch can you name one industry in Canberra that doesn’t have the public service as a client or customer? pretty much everything here relies on either the public services (contracts or consultation) or has public service employees as their customer base. If public service employees stop spending other businesses lose their customers.

I think switch is suggesting everyone in Canberra moves to the ‘big wide world outside of Canberra’….

Ah, so it’s Canberra that’s not the ‘real word TM’. Presumably we’re living as part of someone’s dream or something.

Well, it isn’t. It’s a cocooned bubble funded largely by taxes that then runs its own ridiculously overblown local government dysfunctional army of 25,000 largely useless employees and plagued by coffee shops selling bad coffee for twice the price they sell good coffee for in Paris.

Mr Evil 9:24 pm 17 May 13
frankie 3:42 pm 09 Dec 12

Two arguments that I wish to make points on:

-> “The APS is not real world.” *Ahem* – Tell that to the Police, Armed Forces, or millions of people who could not survive without government support culled from work done in the APS.

-> “Working in the APS is terrible.” – Then please leave the APS. There are at least a dozen or so people who are waiting to take your place (based on the recent job interview rounds I’ve witnessed).

Jim Jones 4:09 pm 20 Nov 12

Stevian said :

Jim Jones said :

dpm said :

pink little birdie said :

also if the now unemployed public servant can’t find another job here they just go back to their home town.
Switch can you name one industry in Canberra that doesn’t have the public service as a client or customer? pretty much everything here relies on either the public services (contracts or consultation) or has public service employees as their customer base. If public service employees stop spending other businesses lose their customers.

I think switch is suggesting everyone in Canberra moves to the ‘big wide world outside of Canberra’….

Ah, so it’s Canberra that’s not the ‘real word TM’. Presumably we’re living as part of someone’s dream or something.

We’re in the Matrix

Pretty feckin boring Matrix innit?

Stevian 3:34 pm 20 Nov 12

Jim Jones said :

dpm said :

pink little birdie said :

also if the now unemployed public servant can’t find another job here they just go back to their home town.
Switch can you name one industry in Canberra that doesn’t have the public service as a client or customer? pretty much everything here relies on either the public services (contracts or consultation) or has public service employees as their customer base. If public service employees stop spending other businesses lose their customers.

I think switch is suggesting everyone in Canberra moves to the ‘big wide world outside of Canberra’….

Ah, so it’s Canberra that’s not the ‘real word TM’. Presumably we’re living as part of someone’s dream or something.

We’re in the Matrix

Jim Jones 3:00 pm 20 Nov 12

dpm said :

pink little birdie said :

also if the now unemployed public servant can’t find another job here they just go back to their home town.
Switch can you name one industry in Canberra that doesn’t have the public service as a client or customer? pretty much everything here relies on either the public services (contracts or consultation) or has public service employees as their customer base. If public service employees stop spending other businesses lose their customers.

I think switch is suggesting everyone in Canberra moves to the ‘big wide world outside of Canberra’….

Ah, so it’s Canberra that’s not the ‘real word TM’. Presumably we’re living as part of someone’s dream or something.

KB1971 2:07 pm 20 Nov 12

switch said :

dtc said :

What jobs? Like it or not, Canberra rises and falls on the APS – and that includes everyone in the private sector.

There is a big wide world outside of Canberra. Not that many in the APS seem to realise that, apart from those going on taxpayer funded junkets.

I work in the APS and travel for said work. I can tell you they are not junkets.

DrKoresh 1:51 pm 20 Nov 12

JessP said :

MightyJoe said :

+1

Far too many people use the bullying card now but people need to understand that being told to do your job – or having private meetings about doing your job – is not bullying.

No, I think you need to understand that sometimes it can be bullying. Not being there, I can’t really speak to the specifics of this particular case but I don’t think it’s too hard for anyone to imagine bullying being disguised as “constructive criticism” or similar.

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