9 April 2009

It takes a crane to lift a wheely bin?

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So this morning in Civic I was a little surprised to see the great big crane on the former Greater Union site shifting a wheely bin around.

So building nerds, is this normal?

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The contents are irrelevant, vg. Even empty it will still do you in from a decent height.

I will repeat again for your benefit

“OK, so you’re 100% sure that its concrete in the wheelie bin described above. Or are you just assuming?”

vg said :

Bollocks, how else do the garbage trucks pick them up…….a tractor beam?

The trucks in Canberra have a large clamp that grips under the top rim of the bin on 3 sides.

Regardless of whether it’s specifically illegal or not the OH&S legislation mantra says that employers have a legally enforceable duty of care to “take all reasonably practicable steps to protect the health and safety at work of its employees and contractors.” I would say it’s both reasonable and practicable for a large construction company to have a better method than this, wouldn’t you?

For shits and giggles… Australian Standard 4123.1-2008 Mobile Waste Containers – ie; wheelie bins. Nominal load is specified as 400kg/m^3 – the standard 240L wheelie bin should be capable of carrying at least 96kg. Concrete nominally weighs 6 times as much per volume, 2400kg/m^3. Even the lifting equipment is specified, and none of it is designed to lift using the handles.

2604 said :

vg said :

“The handles on a wheelie bin are not designed to suspend anything, let alone the weight of a wheelie bin full of rubble. Would anyone here trust those handles to hold a wheelie bin full of god knows what over their head?”

Bollocks, how else do the garbage trucks pick them up…….a tractor beam?

Uh…pretty sure that a wheelie bin full of construction waste (particularly concrete) is going to be heavier than a wheelie bin full of household refuse.

OK, so you’re 100% sure that its concrete in the wheelie bin described above. Or are you just assuming?

dvaey said :

niftydog said :

I hope it’s not normal – it’s almost certainly illegal.

Only if someone finds out about the apprentice they put in there for a ride.

Heh. Pool room. And probably true.

vg said :

“The handles on a wheelie bin are not designed to suspend anything, let alone the weight of a wheelie bin full of rubble. Would anyone here trust those handles to hold a wheelie bin full of god knows what over their head?”

Bollocks, how else do the garbage trucks pick them up…….a tractor beam?

Uh…pretty sure that a wheelie bin full of construction waste (particularly concrete) is going to be heavier than a wheelie bin full of household refuse.

vg said :

“The handles on a wheelie bin are not designed to suspend anything, let alone the weight of a wheelie bin full of rubble. Would anyone here trust those handles to hold a wheelie bin full of god knows what over their head?”

Bollocks, how else do the garbage trucks pick them up…….a tractor beam?

Well, dont garbage trucks use something like a claw that clamps around the top 1/4 of the bin, and lifts that way?

“The handles on a wheelie bin are not designed to suspend anything, let alone the weight of a wheelie bin full of rubble. Would anyone here trust those handles to hold a wheelie bin full of god knows what over their head?”

Bollocks, how else do the garbage trucks pick them up…….a tractor beam?

canberra bureaucrat10:19 pm 09 Apr 09

JB, you need to get out less.

Ya just can’t get away with anything these days, with all the RiotACT paparazzi around.

dvaey said :

niftydog said :

I hope it’s not normal – it’s almost certainly illegal.

Only if someone finds out about the apprentice they put in there for a ride.

It’s how they transport the zombies..

niftydog said :

I hope it’s not normal – it’s almost certainly illegal.

Only if someone finds out about the apprentice they put in there for a ride.

I’m a human with 31 years experience and my experience states that its better than using the stairs.

Workcover may have rules for the proper use of a wheelie.

Not an expert in the area at all niftydog

creative_canberran5:29 pm 09 Apr 09

Bloody unions and OH&S, probably afraid that dragging a bin will a compo payout…. actually, bloody lawyers too.

I am a qualified rigger of over 10 years, G-Fresh, what’s your experience in this area?

My understanding is that hopper used in this way must be engineered specifically for the purpose.

The handles on a wheelie bin are not designed to suspend anything, let alone the weight of a wheelie bin full of rubble. Would anyone here trust those handles to hold a wheelie bin full of god knows what over their head?

old canberran5:24 pm 09 Apr 09

It’s either lunch or a porta potty for the crane driver. 🙂

niftydog said :

I hope it’s not normal – it’s almost certainly illegal.

BAHAHA HOW IS THIS ILLEGAL!?!?!? CLASSIC!!!!!

I can see the headlines now “Multinational Construction Co. fined for using crane to lift heavy objects”

Steady Eddie2:55 pm 09 Apr 09

It’s not “wheely bin” it’s “wheelie bin”.

why would that be ?

I hope it’s not normal – it’s almost certainly illegal.

I once saw a crane pick-up and move a ute from the entry of a construction site, to an unaccessible area on the site where they were working.

Sorry, scratch that different images. time for bed.

Concrete pour perhaps.

I don’t see why not, it’s not as though there are ramps set up to some parts of the construction site. They may also be using it as a convenient basket.

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