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Joy gets her gaming laws through. Pokies dens get what they want.

By johnboy 23 August 2012 52

Joy Burch is celebrating the package of her poker machine bill through the Legislative Assembly:

The amendments passed today include provisions that would:

— Allow new or single-venue clubs to access a pool of up to 150 machines to assist them establish new venues where the Government releases land suitable for new club sites. The pool will be created by the surrender of existing machines, ensuring there is no net growth in the number of machines.

— Amend the $250 daily Automatic Teller Machine (ATM) withdrawal limit proposed in the first draft of the Bill so that it no longer apply to ATMs sites operating 20 or fewer machines, or those only operating ‘Class B’ machines (typically pubs and taverns).

— Allow multi-venue club groups to relocate machines between venues; and give them more flexibility by allowing the relocation of up to 10 machines or 10 per cent of the existing number of machines at the receiving club – whichever is the lesser – without automatically being required to undertake a social impact assessment – rather, this would be left to the discretion of the Gaming and Racing Commission.

— Allow gaming machine licensees to take up to 10 per cent of their machines ‘off the floor’ for up to 12 months.

— Set a medium to long-term target cap of 4000 gaming machines in the ACT. However, once reached the cap would be set on a per capita basis.

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Mysteryman 3:00 pm 27 Aug 12

chewy14 said :

I find it mildly amusing that some of the people who can be supportive of personal freedoms in areas such as drug taking are so negative when it comes to the issue of poker machines.

Same. I find it both amusing and contradictory.

I don’t share the sense of outrage at this legislation. Is it a conflict of interest? Definitely. But should the government be banning poker machines? I don’t think so. Not unless they are going to ban alcohol, cigarettes, and anything else that we could blame in the absence of any personal responsibility.

colourful sydney racing identity said :

Mordd said :

Fairly shocked by the ATM rules change, why are we making it easier for people to gamble large amounts of money in short periods of time again?

Agreed. I would like to see a ban on ATMs, or taking cash out on premises that contain pokies.

I think a limit of $200 regardless of the site, the number of machines, or the type of machine, would have been a good idea. It’s a shame our MLAs didn’t think so.

poetix 2:55 pm 27 Aug 12

p1 said :

Masquara said :

JB I think you mean upper-case Catholic, not “catholic” – totally different meanings …

I don’t understand?

Small c means widely varied, open to many.
Big C means the Roman Catholic Church.

p1 2:37 pm 27 Aug 12

Masquara said :

JB I think you mean upper-case Catholic, not “catholic” – totally different meanings …

I don’t understand?

Myles Peterson 2:02 pm 27 Aug 12

Hmmm … missed this last week.

Kind of stuff that needs to be bookmarked and re-discussed week prior to October 20. Pretty disgusting, Victor. (Oh, and Canberra’s tiny, mate – s*** gets back.)

Masquara 12:57 pm 25 Aug 12

johnboy said :

Remember the Liberals in the Assembly are very strongly catholic and the Southern Cross Club is also a huge pokie change.

(Oh to see Jesus let loose in those pokie dens supposedly honouring his name, the money changers in the temple would consider themselves lucky by comparison)

JB I think you mean upper-case Catholic, not “catholic” – totally different meanings …

bundah 12:16 pm 25 Aug 12

Jethro said :

johnboy said :

Remember the Liberals in the Assembly are very strongly catholic and the Southern Cross Club is also a huge pokie change.

(Oh to see Jesus let loose in those pokie dens supposedly honouring his name, the money changers in the temple would consider themselves lucky by comparison)

I had no idea the Southern Cross club was linked with the Catholics. Wow you learn something new everyday.

I always figured the name was just appealing to the bogans.

Although I guess that does explain their seafood-special Friday nights!

Yes indeed the Catholic Church set up the Cross back in 1972(ah yes i remember it not) and haven’t they reaped the rewards.

Now of course if we could get Jesus to transmigrate and become one with Chuck Norris then one roundhouse kick is all it would take,problem solved

pirate_taco 12:04 pm 25 Aug 12

Where is the evidence to support these changes?
I don’t see how lifting the $250 ATM limit on pubs and clubs with 20 or fewer machines is justified, or any other of the measures for that matter.

Glen Takkenberg
Pirate Party ACT

poetix 10:33 am 25 Aug 12

johnboy said :

Remember the Liberals in the Assembly are very strongly catholic and the Southern Cross Club is also a huge pokie change.

(Oh to see Jesus let loose in those pokie dens supposedly honouring his name, the money changers in the temple would consider themselves lucky by comparison)

Here’s the Jesus for that job:
http://www.news.com.au/world-old/artist-stephen-sawyer-gives-jesus-the-chuck-norris-makeover/story-e6frfkyi-1226127197890
Turn the other cheek? I don’t think so!

Jethro 10:11 am 25 Aug 12

johnboy said :

Remember the Liberals in the Assembly are very strongly catholic and the Southern Cross Club is also a huge pokie change.

(Oh to see Jesus let loose in those pokie dens supposedly honouring his name, the money changers in the temple would consider themselves lucky by comparison)

I had no idea the Southern Cross club was linked with the Catholics. Wow you learn something new everyday.

I always figured the name was just appealing to the bogans.

Although I guess that does explain their seafood-special Friday nights!

Gungahlin Al 9:37 am 25 Aug 12

Jethro said :

Masquara said :

How did the Greens vote? Wouldn’t they have needed Greens support to get this up?

I was trying to work that out myself.

Surely the Greens would vote no on moral grounds, and the Libs would vote no because the changes will financially benefit Labor?

It was the Liberals and Labor voting together that got this through. The Greens opposed the changes.

    johnboy 9:39 am 25 Aug 12

    Remember the Liberals in the Assembly are very strongly catholic and the Southern Cross Club is also a huge pokie change.

    (Oh to see Jesus let loose in those pokie dens supposedly honouring his name, the money changers in the temple would consider themselves lucky by comparison)

Jethro 7:02 am 25 Aug 12

Masquara said :

How did the Greens vote? Wouldn’t they have needed Greens support to get this up?

I was trying to work that out myself.

Surely the Greens would vote no on moral grounds, and the Libs would vote no because the changes will financially benefit Labor?

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