5 August 2009

Just so you know whom you're thanking

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Catholic News brings word that local aid agency Centacare is changing its name to a more clear cut “CatholicCare”.

    “We believe the new name will more clearly reflect our Catholic identity while enabling us to continue to service the whole community regardless of circumstance or belief,” chief executive officer Mr Neil Harrigan said. “We remain committed to the ideas and ideals central to the Church that have driven the agency since its beginning.”

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FC said :

Eby said :

FC said :

no provision of condoms or safe sex advice. no counselling support for terminated pregnancy etc.

I’m pretty sure that’s actually not true, in terms of ‘on the ground’ service delivery. While I (as many others on this forum) have my own personal issues with some of the ideas that come out of Christianity, I have actually been impressed by both CatholicCare and Anglicare (as it’s Anglican counterpart) in their capacity to provide relevant, evidence based, and comprehensive service delivery.

It actually is true. I know a handful of people who have been employed by them and participating in providing any of the above meant jeopodizing jobs/risking disciplinary action.

So do I, and I’m not aware of any disciplinary actions being taken. But I may well be wrong, and would imagine some of it depends on who is in charge. And policies/procedures versus ‘what actually happens’. Bottom line is that I do agree with you about this being a concern if it is the case.

But anyway, I think a far more concerning issue is that public high school and colleges in Canberra aren’t allowed to provide condoms in schools….

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy8:43 am 06 Aug 09

They still do an awful lot of good stuff for the community.

Eby said :

FC said :

no provision of condoms or safe sex advice. no counselling support for terminated pregnancy etc.

I’m pretty sure that’s actually not true, in terms of ‘on the ground’ service delivery. While I (as many others on this forum) have my own personal issues with some of the ideas that come out of Christianity, I have actually been impressed by both CatholicCare and Anglicare (as it’s Anglican counterpart) in their capacity to provide relevant, evidence based, and comprehensive service delivery.

It actually is true. I know a handful of people who have been employed by them and participating in providing any of the above meant jeopodizing jobs/risking disciplinary action.

neanderthalsis said :

The Choirboys are still together, they don’t need repairing PB.

Yay. Flashbacks to my mis-spent youth. Run to Paradise didn’t ever receive the accolades it deserved.

Back to the thread, though, I am pleased to see a bit more “transparency” in Catholic social services. Clients need to be aware that any advice or service provided to them at these services come from a huge religious ethos and wont be in any way impartial or objective. Advice and assistance will be provided only as long as it adheres strictly to church doctrine.

…and don’t get me started about the Vatican.

Centacare/CatholicCare do some amazing work. there are plenty of places in canberra where one can get information re: safe sex practices. presumably a catholic organisation wouldn’t be your first port of call – and in any case, with the new name change, this will be far more clear.

FC said :

no provision of condoms or safe sex advice. no counselling support for terminated pregnancy etc.

I’m pretty sure that’s actually not true, in terms of ‘on the ground’ service delivery. While I (as many others on this forum) have my own personal issues with some of the ideas that come out of Christianity, I have actually been impressed by both CatholicCare and Anglicare (as it’s Anglican counterpart) in their capacity to provide relevant, evidence based, and comprehensive service delivery.

neanderthalsis1:11 pm 05 Aug 09

The Choirboys are still together, they don’t need repairing PB.

Pommy bastard1:04 pm 05 Aug 09

Can I make a donation towards the cost of repairing the choirboys?

Excellent. Now will the Church change the name of it’s Towards Healing process to:

“Healing the Church by hiding our dirty laundry through paying tiny sums of hush money to the desperate people we abused”?

Gotta love ‘Catholic Church Inc’.

Eating, shelter and having clothes are occasionally important as well…

Yes, they are the essentials..

I thought the schools did that these days – presumably the Catholics wouldn’t mind missing out.

Family planning, sexuality and sex education unwanted pregnancy and similar issues are a big concern for many young people throughout Australia.
I’m not saying that they are EVERYONES issues, but they are BIG issues, and if an organisation claims to look out for the best interest of the young person that is receiving support, however chooses to ignore or not engage regarding issues that so clearly affect a large percentage of the young people they are supporting then to me it doesn’t seem accurate to claim the young persons interest is first priority.
Maybe they will add the disclaimer : “CatholicCare will give primary consideration to the best interests of the child or young person*” *as long is it fits within our religious ideals of what is right and wrong.

Maybe not to abortion. But really condoms and safe sex advice should be provided to everyone. Even if you’re not planning on having sex you need to be edumacated about it.

But they might actually be able to help everyone else. Not everyone’s problems relate to condoms and abortion.

no provision of condoms or safe sex advice. no counselling support for terminated pregnancy etc.

truth in advertising? At least now none of us will be fooled :p

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