16 September 2024

‘Just two more seats’: Greens see realistic pathway to leading next ACT Government

| Oliver Jacques
Join the conversation
50
Shane Rattenbury

ACT Greens leader Shane Rattenbury believes his party can lead the next ACT Government. Photo: Supplied.

ACT Greens leader Shane Rattenbury says his party has a realistic chance of leading the next ACT Government and bringing about “fundamental change” in the capital after the October 2024 election, arguing that a gain of two seats would put them within striking distance.

“We have put up a team of 10 strong lead candidates, two in every electorate. If we can gain a second seat in a couple of other electorates, you’d suddenly see a very different dynamic in the assembly,” he said.

“Just two more seats would see the Greens on par with the Liberals and Labor, at which point, anything is possible.”

His party currently holds six seats in the Legislative Assembly, which makes them a minority coalition partner in the government with ACT Labor, which holds 10 seats. The Canberra Liberals hold the remaining nine seats.

“Progressive voters looking for change could elect a Greens-led government in the ACT, blowing open political possibilities in Canberra and around Australia,” Mr Rattenbury said.

“We have seen in other elections, both in Australia and internationally, when people see alternatives, you are seeing big swings in the vote. We saw it in the Northern Territory election with swings of 15 per cent and in the ACT Senate election,” he said.

READ ALSO Liberal overlays show comparable stadiums fit on Acton Waterfront site

Australian National University political scientist Professor John Warhurst says a Greens-majority ACT Government would be a “remarkable result”.

“It’s hard to see the Greens as the majority party. They may be only a few seats from being the largest party, but on the other hand, they’re equally vulnerable to losing seats and being in a weakened position,” he said.

“It’s a complex election, it’s not just a Labor/Liberals/Greens contest, there’s also the prospect of independents getting seats, but we don’t know which party they’ll win seats from … you may even get one or two independents holding the balance of power, but we also don’t know who they may support.”

Thomas Emerson speaks at rally

Professor Warhurst says the challenge of Independents for Canberra candidate Thomas Emerson and others from his party makes predicting this election very difficult. Photo: Supplied.

Professor Warhurst said that in the absence of serious public opinion polls, it’s difficult to know where anyone stands and predict what might happen.

“My feeling is that it’s only in the last few days that the ACT election has gotten much airtime. Everyone is focused on Trump, Harris, Albanese and Dutton. It’s difficult for local politicians and candidates to cut through,” he said.

Belco Party leader Bill Stefaniak ruled out supporting the Greens to form government if his party had members elected to the Legislative Assembly.

“When I was opposition leader back in 2007, I would’ve happily talked to them… [but] you’ve now got a more extreme type of Greens who are Marxists who would want to introduce policies that would even make the Chinese Communist Party blush in terms of the damage they’d do to Australia,” Mr Stefaniak said.

READ ALSO Government adjusts tree protection laws following feedback

Mr Rattenbury, though, believes the Greens are the only chance ACT voters have of removing Labor from their dominant position in government and bringing about “fundamental change”.

“The voters want an alternative, but the Liberals are not a viable alternative for many in the eyes of many Canberrans; they don’t see the Liberals align with the values and aspirations of our city … the Greens are a real alternative for people in Canberra. We have more experience in government than the Liberals and more courage and ambition than Labor,” he said.

“Labor has spent this campaign announcing their plans to stick with business as usual, and that’s not going to cut it. We need to fundamentally change the way we provide housing in the ACT and the Greens are the only party prepared to do it.”

The ACT election takes place on 19 October 2024.

Join the conversation

50
All Comments
  • All Comments
  • Website Comments
LatestOldest

This aged well

Mark & Lee-Anne Prevost9:07 pm 19 Sep 24

You want to live in poverty and destitution in your retirement? Live in an apartment with a Green government….

Andrew Sutton8:27 pm 18 Sep 24

The rest of the country have woken up to the Greens and have been booting them from power…can Canberrans join the enlightened ones? God I hope so.

God help us if the Greens win government.

Canberra the Nanny state on steroids if the radical Greens get power OMG

These accidental and extreme Greens were very lucky to get in at the last election. I think it was the Alistair Coe effect that got them over the line and the results seem to point in that direction. The stunned look on Shane Rattenbury’s face at the time said it all, and my mind boggles at what he was thinking! ACT voters have fluctuated when it comes to voting for the Greens, hoping for better but always disappointed in the end.

I was optimistic that the party would do better during this assembly term but have been very disappointed. We are stuck with them until after the election in 32 days. I look forward to seeing the end of Vanessa Vassarotti, Emma Davidson, Jo Clay and the bumbling Andrew Braddock whose performances in the assembly are just excruciating to watch! Not to mention the controversies which have arisen from the party during the term!

Roll on election day!

Jack D, Labor and Greens are a coalition. They sleep in the same bed

Don’t laugh. On Reddit/Canberra a poll asking about 2024 voting intentions resulted in a majority of the 978 respondents intending to vote for the Greens. Then Labor. OK, so the poll is not a representative sample of the general population, but probably does reflect the views of the under 25s.

Yes, imagine how different it would be if they were in government? Hold on…

GrumpyGrandpa5:43 pm 16 Sep 24

Striking distance of leading the Assembly! Mr Rattenbury, please stop making me laugh!

With the Greens running 10 candidates, they can’t win a majority.
If they were successful and gained the extra 2 seats they hope to win, the Greens would then still require the ALP to lose 3 seats & the Canberra Libs to lose 2 seats, to Independents AND, either all of the Independents, ALP or Canberra Libs losing their minds, and anoint Mr Rattenbury as the Mayor of Canberra.

Well, the pigs are fuelled up and are ready to fly.

Capital Retro7:18 pm 16 Sep 24

Remember, no proof of identity required when voting and all extra votes are counted. The Greens have the resources.

CR,
That is ridiculous even by your standards.

It’s 10 lead candidates, in 2020 the Greens had 16 candidates overall. Being the larger partner in a minority government only needs just over 1/4 of the seats. 7 Greens, 6 Labor, and 12 other parties or independents would do it.

Capital Retro9:37 am 17 Sep 24

And you are surprisingly naive.

CR,
how is it naive to actually understand the controls in place to stop duplicate voting and fraud within our system?

You don’t have to provide ID but you do have to give your name and address which is checked against the electoral roll and then checked against other voting booths to identify cases of duplicate voting. Other checks are used to prevent fraudulent enrollment. Both are illegal.

How exactly do you think the Greens “resources” are going to impact the results through fraudulent voting? Give specifics.

@chewy14
As you correctly identify, duplicate voting is illegal. However, it’s an ‘after the fact check’, as there is no real time check of duplicate voting at the booths on polling day. I think there may be more stringent control in pre-polling situations in ACT.

So, surprisingly, CR, is correct on one count – “all extra votes are counted” as there is no way of determining how the fraudulent voter has cast their vote.

Of course the rest of CR’s ‘argument’ is just fanciful.

Justsaying,
The rate of fraudulent voting is still tracked and consistently minuscule.

If after an election, a massive uptick in fraudulent voting was identified, the result of the election can be disputed in court as per the conditions of the Electoral Act.

Capital Retro7:35 am 18 Sep 24

Chewy, have you ever hear the old Labor chant “vote early and vote often?”
To give your name and address which is checked against the electoral role at one booth does not ensure that someone else isn’t voting in your name simultaneously at another booth. I have been told the “electronic” way of checking isn’t fallible either. Even recently deceased people have been made to vote.
I had given details of what else can happen but the post has not gone up which is probably a good thing because a lot of people would have felt some discomfort.
If you honestly feel the electoral system is bullet proof then you are still naïve.

Retro,
Yes I’ve heard the chant used almost exclusively in a joking manner. And?

You have “been told” that the checking isn’t infallible?

By who? What evidence did they give you to prove it? Why have they not raised it to authorities?

The checking of the rolls are electronically and manually confirmed to prevent duplicate voting. The idea that there is some massive conspiracy in voter accuracy is laughable.

Sorry, if you think “Joe down the pub told me” is some sort of evidence, then you are more gullible than I thought.

Take your tin foil hat off.

https://aec.gov.au/About_AEC/Publications/backgrounders/fraud-and-multiple-voting.htm

Bennett Bennett5:02 pm 16 Sep 24

I’m leaving the ACT/Canberra if the Greens get more influence.
Goodbye……….

ACT Greens have contributed to the poor management of Govt , why on earth would we trust them?

Shane talks a big game on housing affordability when he himself is a landlord of multiple properties, I doubt he’ll change the status quo

“Just two more seats would see the Greens on par with the Liberals and Labor, at which point, anything is possible.”
Hopefully with that quote, he has shot himself in the foot.

Surely, the spectre of Rattenbury as Chief Minister, should give pause to all voters in Canberra, especially those who are not rusted on to the major parties, to carefully consider to what outcome their vote could lead … this is arguably one of the potentially closest ACT elections in a long time (ever?), where the allocation of preferences could prove totally decisive.

Leon Arundell2:53 pm 16 Sep 24

The ACT Greens have not forgotten that, when four sitting Greens MLAs took their light rail policy to the 2012 election, three of them lost their seats.

Incidental Tourist12:47 pm 16 Sep 24

ACT Greens have been taking seats from ACT Labor turning labor to de-facto minority even today. This is because ACT Labor have long abandoned their former balanced centre position and take all headlines from Greens. Ironically ACT Labor very vocal critic is .. their own previous ACT Labor Chief Minister John Stanhope.

Without their own sound position ACT Labor turned Canberra to Greens policy sand pit at the expense of Labor voters. ACT Labor consented to Greens on galloping local taxes far above centrist interstate Labor governments in QLD or NSW. There is no alternative to draconian Green’s housing infill policy in contrast to Victoria, SA, WA and QLD Labor who release cheap land for affordable houses on city fringes. ACT Labor have no transport alternative to Greens with the push for tram at all costs. Their interstate Labor colleagues have more sound transport priorities. ACT Labor were never to see around rental legislation where they rubber stamped every Greens crazy idea. Meanwhile WA Labor committed to keeping no fault lease terminations to attract investors and increase rental supply. ACT Labor seem to be absolutely not concerned about nose diving new apartment approvals (mostly rentals).

Like Barr or not, Barr’s performing far above of the rest of his pack is ACT Labor problem. Everyone else in their camp look more like mediocre seat holders who can’t say two meaningful words let alone do something without ending up in a scandal. They can’t silently kick a can along the Health road without wasting on $66M wrong invoices in their health Department. They couldn’t help keeping lights on in their own office without $78M scandal on failed HR project. There is lack of new ideas demonstrated by them promising same old Athlon drive upgrade for as long as they keep working on same old Kipax redevelopment plan.

ACT Labor have to part from Greens and restore more central position in all areas. Don’t worry about Greens – they will have no choice but to come back to Labor.

Greens in majority, just imagine, oh wait, we don’t need to imagine, we can look at their record.

2005 – ACT Greens MLA Deb Foskey was caught living in public housing on a $100,000 salary.
https://the-riotact.com/deb-foskey-in-public-housing-debate-gets-more-exposure/529

2008 – ACT Greens MLA Shane Rattenbury promised a balanced budget but delivered massive debt.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2008-10-20/stanhope-signals-greens-reservations/547188

2013 – ACT Greens received $50,000 from the CFMEU during the Federal election campaign.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-18/cfmeu-confirms-donation-to-act-greens-election-campaign/5678056

2016 – ACT Greens had 3 serious and critical incidents occur during their election campaign.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-13/act-greens-party-volunteers-sexual-assault-canberra/8703144

2023 – ACT Greens MLA Johnathan Davis accused of serious sexual misconduct with teens.
https://the-riotact.com/act-greens-mla-johnathan-davis-urged-to-resign-over-allegations-of-underage-sex/720789

What can we expect next in this comedy show of theirs ?

Capital Retro10:46 pm 16 Sep 24

About 40 years ago the Canberra Greens trawled motor rego records to find out who drove 4WDs.

@Capital Retro
” … the Canberra Greens trawled motor rego records …”
Really? So how did one trawl motor rego records back in 1984, CR?
Noting that the ACT was still under the control of the federal government at that time, so did the Canberra Greens even exist in 1984?

Nevertheless, assuming you can substantiate your claim – what did they do with that information?

@Capital Retro
While I know you have this desire to remain in the dark ages and a 13yo story about a failed wannabe politician is amusing, perhaps you can provide some clarity, as to its relevance to the present day.

Capital Retro11:24 am 17 Sep 24

I said “about” 40 years ago, JS. Some of RiotAct’s more mature readers would remember it.
It was legal to do rego searches in the ACT then and I think some people had backdoor ways of getting “deeper” information like the expanded information on electoral rolls that were exclusive to members of parliament and the like.
They wrote to 4wd owners to seek support for green environment issues. I got one of their letters.
Hope that satisfies your lust in your eternal quest of looking for a fifth leg on a cat.

@Capital Retro
You bring up an incident that happened “about” 40 years ago as if it is relevant to today, and you tell me I’m the one “looking for a fifth leg on a cat”. Priceless.

Just bookmarking this so I can come back and have a giggle in five weeks once the Greens have lost at least two of their current seats

I predict 3, maybe 4!

The Greens are just as much a part of the problems with this government as Labor. If you’ve been a Labor voter in the past and want things in the ACT to get better, don’t switch your vote to the Greens. You have to vote Liberal or at least for an independent who will back a change of chief minister and then use their position on the cross bench to moderate any unpalatable social policies that may emerge from the more right wing Libs, not that it’s likely to be needed with the Libs conscience votes on social issues.

Chris Lvoric12:15 pm 16 Sep 24

Who do I vote if I want stuff like light rail delivered faster and more competently? It’s not the Libs, and all the independents have been anti- or vague on light rail to Woden.

Chris,
Faster and more competently delivered light rail are 2 diametrically opposed outcomes.

GrumpyGrandpa10:57 pm 17 Sep 24

Chris,
S&Ps review of the ACT finances found spending was out of control. Riotact ran a story on the ACT finances recently.

There is no chance of LR getting anywhere, any time soon. They still haven’t worked out how to get around Parliament House and its arrival in Woden is now somewhere in the 2030’s, subject to having the available budget.

For the Greens to advocate a faster delivery of LR is purely fanciful. Being in an Alliance government with the ALP, they’d know the budget constraints.

Daily Digest

Want the best Canberra news delivered daily? Every day we package the most popular Riotact stories and send them straight to your inbox. Sign-up now for trusted local news that will never be behind a paywall.

By submitting your email address you are agreeing to Region Group's terms and conditions and privacy policy.