11 November 2013

Just when you thought we were done with winter

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Miserable days in succession but what does the bureau have to say?

Well it’s miserable as far as the eye can see.

Hope you didn’t pack up your winter woolies yet.

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EvanJames said :

Maybe a bit more this weekend, too. Keep it coming, we need it. And we don’t need sustained 30s temperatures in Spring.

Damn right we don’t – my silverbeet are already bolting to seed. Canberra’s Spring is the short time gardeners have between it being too cold for plants to grow and it’s so hot that plants die in the dry winds of Summer.

HiddenDragon12:14 pm 12 Nov 13

As we’ve moved on to climate change (quelle surprise), Edmund Capon’s recent series on Australian art provided an interesting reminder of extraordinary events, long before the BRICs started industrialising:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Thursday_(1851)

Roundhead89 said :

Gee, freezing cold weather in November.

Global warming brigade, where are you? Oh, that’s right. They’re too busy at the moment trying to blame the Phillipines typhoon on “climate change”.

johnboy said :

Seeing as the recent wild temperature shifts match perfectly with the extreme weather modeled by climate scientists they’re being much more restrained than some.

The worst typhoons in the Phillipines (in the short time that humans have been recording these things) were more than 50 years ago. The Phillipines average 6 to 7 typhoons a year, but it is just luck or bad luck if they hit the coast in populated areas. By the way, there is no difference between typhoons, cyclones or hurricanes they generally form above the oceans about 4 degrees N or 4 degrees S of the equator (but not on the equator).

Roundhead89 said :

Gee, freezing cold weather in November.

Global warming brigade, where are you? Oh, that’s right. They’re too busy at the moment trying to blame the Phillipines typhoon on “climate change”.

ps. I’d like to hear how you’re well-informed enough to dismiss the overwhelming scientific consensus. Have you done research yourself? Collected data for the last two hundred years? Conducted research on carbon dioxide’s greenhouse properties? Or have you just been listening to Alan Jones?

Roundhead89 said :

Gee, freezing cold weather in November.

Global warming brigade, where are you? Oh, that’s right. They’re too busy at the moment trying to blame the Phillipines typhoon on “climate change”.

Isolated days, or even years, are meaningless. What matters is the overall trend. Temperatures are undeniably heading up.

Roundhead89 said :

Gee, freezing cold weather in November.

Global warming brigade, where are you? Oh, that’s right. They’re too busy at the moment trying to blame the Phillipines typhoon on “climate change”.

Here you go, kook, much to Abbott’s chagrin, the BoM is still doing science, collecting data, and presenting that data in a way that even you may understand:

http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/change/index.shtml#tabs=Tracker&tracker=extremes-timeseries&tQ%5Bgraph%5D=TN10&tQ%5Bave_yr%5D=0

See what’s happening?

Gee, freezing cold weather in November.

Global warming brigade, where are you? Oh, that’s right. They’re too busy at the moment trying to blame the Phillipines typhoon on “climate change”.

Seeing as the recent wild temperature shifts match perfectly with the extreme weather modeled by climate scientists they’re being much more restrained than some.

This weather is miserable, just when we were getting out of the depressing lull of winter too. I don’t know what is wrong with you people.

I just saw the sun. Probably a mirage.

Robertson said :

poetix said :

This weather is horrible and it always brings out the resolutely optimistic, .

This weather is beautiful. It’s filling the dams, extinguishing the Wiritin bushfire, greening the hills, and nobody will suffer sunburn, sunstroke, heat exhaustion or calenture.

All my indoor plants have been outside for 36 hours getting a good healthy wetting. My extensive collection of newly-acquired tree ferns (thanks, Wiritin ridge bushfire!) couldn’t have wished for a better timed bit of weather.

poetix said :

This weather is horrible and it always brings out the resolutely optimistic, .

This weather is beautiful. It’s filling the dams, extinguishing the Wiritin bushfire, greening the hills, and nobody will suffer sunburn, sunstroke, heat exhaustion or calenture.

watto23 said :

RedDogInCan said :

Hope you didn’t pack up your winter woolies yet.

Anyone who even considered packing up their winter woolies before Rememberance Day isn’t a true Canberran.

I thought true Canberrans don’t need winter woolies. My winter wardrobe means either a jumper on or a jacket. I rarely ever go to a third layer of clothing.

Rawhide Kid Part3 said :

Seems like were back to normal weather for this time of the year for Canberra.

Yeah, as a true Canberran I rarely wear any more than 4 layers (although, admittedly, I’d wear more if I could work out how to do so and still be able to move at all 😉 )

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd5:04 pm 11 Nov 13

Veggie garden is absolutely loving it.

Global cooling?

I have tried to be cheerful, even wearing my ‘new’ weird ‘cashmere’ jumper bought at a fete, which no cyclist with any taste would think of stealing, and it’s not working. Even making stupid in-jokes isn’t working.

This weather is horrible and it always brings out the resolutely optimistic, and those who like to boast that they don’t feel the cold, and wear singlets when it’s minus fifteen.

Whereas normal people sit round being miserable and drink too much.

RedDogInCan said :

Hope you didn’t pack up your winter woolies yet.

Anyone who even considered packing up their winter woolies before Rememberance Day isn’t a true Canberran.

I thought true Canberrans don’t need winter woolies. My winter wardrobe means either a jumper on or a jacket. I rarely ever go to a third layer of clothing.

Glad to see there’s soem people here to understand the importance of rain. And that we’ve not been getting enough of it lately. Have a look at the snowcams, decent accumulation happening up top (and reports of big flakes on Ginini from a chap who was up there yesterday).

Maybe a bit more this weekend, too. Keep it coming, we need it. And we don’t need sustained 30s temperatures in Spring.

HiddenDragon3:11 pm 11 Nov 13

Robertson said :

Perfect and long-awaited for.

With any luck, this will completely extinguish the Wiritin Ridge fire, which has been burning for 1 month.

Let’s hope the system(s) producing this rain will be sufficiently large and sustained to deal with all the lingering fires across NSW. After a few very dry weeks we can certainly use the soaking and run-off from steady rain.

Woody Mann-Caruso3:07 pm 11 Nov 13

Watson said :

Proof? This doesn’t feel normal at all for this time of the year.

Historically, November is the wettest month in Canberra. The mean November rainfall at APH from 1968 is 70.3mm, and the highest daily rainfall there (99mm) was also in November. The next wettest months are October, January, September, and December.

Temp-wise, the mean max in November is just 22.7oC; the mean minimum is 8.8oC (data from 1939 to 2010).

So, if you just want to use the last couple of days as an example, it was colder and wetter than the November mean.

Hope you didn’t pack up your winter woolies yet.

Anyone who even considered packing up their winter woolies before Rememberance Day isn’t a true Canberran.

thebrownstreak692:50 pm 11 Nov 13

Watson said :

Rawhide Kid Part3 said :

Seems like were back to normal weather for this time of the year for Canberra.

Proof?

This doesn’t feel normal at all for this time of the year.

November and December are traditionally the highest rainfall months in Canberra.

Perfect and long-awaited for.

With any luck, this will completely extinguish the Wiritin Ridge fire, which has been burning for 1 month.

Rawhide Kid Part3 said :

Seems like were back to normal weather for this time of the year for Canberra.

Proof?

This doesn’t feel normal at all for this time of the year.

Rawhide Kid Part31:54 pm 11 Nov 13

Seems like were back to normal weather for this time of the year for Canberra.

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