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Karabar High School beatings

johnboy 19 June 2009 30

The Canberra Times has a story on beatings in Queanbeyan yesterday:

    Two teenagers are believed to have been targeted by a pack of up to 10 youths in a series of premeditated attacks across Queanbeyan.

    It is believed some of those attackers have taken photos and video footage of the incidents on their mobile phones.

    On Monday afternoon, one of the teenage victims was bashed outside Karabar High School near a bus stop before receiving a further beating an hour-and-a-half later on the Queen’s Bridge in front of his father.

It’s always nice when criminals document and advertise their crimes.


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johnboy johnboy 10:15 am 22 Jun 09

Let’s get back on topic shall we people?

FC FC 7:31 am 22 Jun 09

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

I do, however, think that spirituality (in whatever form it may take) can lead to a feeling of connectedness with the world.

I think it does exactly the opposite.

As an atheist, I have no spirituality. My ‘connectedness to the world’ comes from the knowledge that it’s the only one we’ve got; that when you kill somebody, they stay dead; and that Jeebus isn’t going to float out of the sky and make everything better. If we f.ck it up, that’s it – no second chances.

If you’re religious or ‘spiritual’ – well, why bother? Karma or the Angry Sky Fairy will sort everything out, there’s a lovely afterlife out there, and the material world is just a dream, so who cares what happens to it?

Most of what religious people call ‘connectedness’ is really just fear of divine retribution. For evidence, one need only look at what heinous thing people will do to one another when their actions are suddenly sanctioned by their beliefs or spiritual leaders.

It sould seem from your post that you really haven’t got a clue about the distinction between spirituality and organised religion.
No, It has nothing to do with the material world being a dream, or an afterlife, or fear of devine retribution.
Maybe you should take a deep breath and not comment on something if you haven’t a clue what it is you’re commenting about. take your anti-religious rant and maybe post it on a thread where it would be relevant. It is not in response to my comment.

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy 7:48 am 20 Jun 09

Where the hell are these kids parents?

Name and shame the parents!

They’re probably the same idiot bogan losers I went to Karabar with. The cycle repeats…

ant ant 12:29 am 20 Jun 09

Kids with rubbish parents, and those kids are going to struggle all their lives because of it. Coupled with a world where they’ve seen, so far, that there aren’t many or any real consequences to anything they might do.

It’s all rather Lord of the Flies.

GottaLoveCanberra GottaLoveCanberra 11:16 pm 19 Jun 09

Where the hell are these kids parents?

Name and shame the parents!

Woody Mann-Caruso Woody Mann-Caruso 3:52 pm 19 Jun 09

I do, however, think that spirituality (in whatever form it may take) can lead to a feeling of connectedness with the world.

I think it does exactly the opposite.

As an atheist, I have no spirituality. My ‘connectedness to the world’ comes from the knowledge that it’s the only one we’ve got; that when you kill somebody, they stay dead; and that Jeebus isn’t going to float out of the sky and make everything better. If we f.ck it up, that’s it – no second chances.

If you’re religious or ‘spiritual’ – well, why bother? Karma or the Angry Sky Fairy will sort everything out, there’s a lovely afterlife out there, and the material world is just a dream, so who cares what happens to it?

Most of what religious people call ‘connectedness’ is really just fear of divine retribution. For evidence, one need only look at what heinous thing people will do to one another when their actions are suddenly sanctioned by their beliefs or spiritual leaders.

grunta123 grunta123 3:45 pm 19 Jun 09

Peterh… I hear you.

Qbn Gal Qbn Gal 3:23 pm 19 Jun 09
FC FC 3:19 pm 19 Jun 09

In case you guys missed it in my post, I list the multiple and varied things that COULD be a possible factor in the development of this violent behaviour. I was trying to demonstrate that it is not as simple as “send ’em to gaol and it will all go away”
I do, however, think that spirituality (in whatever form it may take) can lead to a feeling of connectedness with the world. Organised relegion..well thats another thing all together. But the message at the base of most religions is one of peace and loved. It seems to me that the real messages have got lost along the way and ruined by man, who want to twist things to suit their own agenda.

S4anta S4anta 2:44 pm 19 Jun 09

or they are Liberal voters!

S4anta S4anta 2:44 pm 19 Jun 09

There could be links with the lack of religion/spirituality within our culture than contributes to inner feelings of emptiness and a lack of connecting with the world

Rubbish. Some of the most ignorant, inept, useless bastards I have ever had the displeasure of meeting you could file under relgious or spiritual.

Woody Mann-Caruso Woody Mann-Caruso 1:57 pm 19 Jun 09

There could be links with the lack of religion/spirituality within our culture than contributes to inner feelings of emptiness and a lack of connecting with the world

Yeah, because religious cultures have way less violence than secular cultures.

chewy14 chewy14 1:44 pm 19 Jun 09

vg said :

Joshua said :

I know its not politically correct but I’ve always felt that the brave perpetrators of gang bashings when caught should be individually given the opportunity of going 10 or 12 rounds of bare knuckle boxing with an individual of the victim’s choice. For instance if I was the victim or knew the victim I’d pony up the cash to hire the services of the nastiest most dangerous crim currently out on parole.

Why would you want a crim? The guys that put them in there are much tougher

Are you saying that the guys who put them there are much better at bashing people VG?

P Taker P Taker 1:38 pm 19 Jun 09

Qbn Gal said :

“” but then real fun could begin………..vigilante justice.

Before the cries of foul starts, if the law makers can’t be knackered to do anything, its time to let these monkeys know they can’t just go round getting away with this crap..”

All well and good to espouse vigilante justice, but then the person doling out the vigilante justice gets punished worse than the original offender. Don’t forget the story this week of a father who went after a Paedophile who victimised his kid. Now the father is facing life in jail, while the judge let the Paedophile out because he had been bashed ( boo hoo). Until the justice system starts handing out realistic sentences to these cowardly crims, these sorts of crimes will just continue happening.

your kidding!!! do you have a link to a news article?

S4anta S4anta 1:37 pm 19 Jun 09

Two words: Queanbeyan…meh.

Those ten kiddies do need a swift kick to to the testicles.

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy 1:32 pm 19 Jun 09

Having grown up in Queanbeyan, and spent 6 years at Karabar, I think I’d be fairly close in saying that kids behave like this because the perceived benefits of the behaviour (ie the street cred or revenge factor) outweighs the potential punishment. Kids just aren’t scared of authority.

It’s interesting, though, in that when I went to Karabar, fights were 1 on 1, and it was finished once someone fell down.

vg vg 1:30 pm 19 Jun 09

Joshua said :

I know its not politically correct but I’ve always felt that the brave perpetrators of gang bashings when caught should be individually given the opportunity of going 10 or 12 rounds of bare knuckle boxing with an individual of the victim’s choice. For instance if I was the victim or knew the victim I’d pony up the cash to hire the services of the nastiest most dangerous crim currently out on parole.

Why would you want a crim? The guys that put them in there are much tougher

Hells_Bells74 Hells_Bells74 1:24 pm 19 Jun 09

I smoke to chill. I am now paranoid that I get paranoid. Gee thanks FC!

The Brad The Brad 1:17 pm 19 Jun 09

This town needs The Batman.
Pity Bruce Wayne died.

FC FC 12:44 pm 19 Jun 09

Of course you should be penalised if you decided to go commit a crime against someone who has hurt your kids.
Where does the line get drawn?
I have no kids but should I be above the law if somebody did something to my dog?
What about my car? someone damages it and they don’t get charged then am in my right to take out my own justice (because the law didn’t protect me or provide that justice).
Hell no, there would be anarchy and we would have people running around.
“Eye for an Eye” people would scream. (Then we’d all end up blind?)
But who decides what type of retaliation is appropriate? Generally people wants both eyes and both legs for an eye.
And also – protecting your children is something that should be active, not reactive.

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