14 September 2015

Kathleen Bautista found safe

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ACT Policing has located missing 19-year-old Gordon woman, Kathleen Bautista safe.

Kathleen from Gordon was found by search and rescue members about 10.25am this morning near the Cotter reserve area.

Kathleen went missing on Saturday 5 September 2015 when she was last seen in Chapman about 7.00am.

The search for the teenager immediately began, and has continued for the past seven days until this morning when she was found.

Police would like to thank the outstanding work of the SES, members of the public and the media for their assistance in locating Kathleen.

(ACT Policing Facebook page)

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rosscoact said :

HenryBG said :

Ghettosmurf87 said :

HenryBG said :

To quote another news source:
“… the phone signals were pivotal to finding Ms Bautista.
…”

So, Data Retention saves another life then.

Interesting how quiet journalists are about the demonstrated positive benefits of Data Retention after all the noise they made about imaginary drawbacks just 6 months ago, wouldn’t you say?

what have phone signals that are being transmitted regularly got to do with Data Retention? The ability to locate a phone via GPS and mobile signals is completely unrelated. They didn’t find her because some ISP had retained her past text messages and visited websites…

ISPs don’t retain your text messages or visited websites and Data Retention is precisely about regulating the retention of the connection data that was used in this instance (as in many others) to help locate this person.

Data Retention laws haven’t even come into effect, even if it was possible, which it isn’t.

The 1979 Telecomms Act pertains, which is what responsible telecomms service providers have been using as their guide for dealing with requests from authorities for retained data. Luckily, this legislation is now updated so that irresponsible telecomms providers will be compelled by law to keep proper records.

Your final comment is puzzling. The provider of the Telecomms service will be required to retain information on connections to their service which – in the case of mobile phones – includes the cell data.
This is the data that police use to locate people.

wildturkeycanoe said :

Maybe they just don’t keep that much data, because as you can understand in order to track and store every mobile phone’s movements every day, the storage facility would be of mammoth proportions.

Would it?

If a phone spends its day going to work, then perhaps a lunchtime trip out of the office, then it may well connect to about ten cells during the day.
If each connection results in an accounting such as,
6747478239,bloggs,jo,44,smith,st,charnwood,2607,20150925,084430,cell4098
ie, about 100Bytes of information
then your day’s worth of information is 1KB
If Canberra has 400,000 phones, that’s 400MB for the day
for the year, that’s 150GB
that means you will be able to put all of Canberra’s cell records for a whole decade on a $100 USB hard drive from Dick Smith.

Of course the data will be compressed anyway and 400MB of text will compress down to 40MB.

So that 2TB drive from Dick Smith will hold 100 years of cell data.

So…just wondering…what is it that makes you think that you’d need “a storage facility of mammoth proportions” to store cell phone data?

HenryBG said :

Ghettosmurf87 said :

HenryBG said :

To quote another news source:
“… the phone signals were pivotal to finding Ms Bautista.
…”

So, Data Retention saves another life then.

Interesting how quiet journalists are about the demonstrated positive benefits of Data Retention after all the noise they made about imaginary drawbacks just 6 months ago, wouldn’t you say?

what have phone signals that are being transmitted regularly got to do with Data Retention? The ability to locate a phone via GPS and mobile signals is completely unrelated. They didn’t find her because some ISP had retained her past text messages and visited websites…

ISPs don’t retain your text messages or visited websites and Data Retention is precisely about regulating the retention of the connection data that was used in this instance (as in many others) to help locate this person.

Data Retention laws haven’t even come into effect, even if it was possible, which it isn’t.

wildturkeycanoe6:39 am 25 Sep 15

Ghettosmurf87 said :

HenryBG said :

To quote another news source:
“… the phone signals were pivotal to finding Ms Bautista.
…”

So, Data Retention saves another life then.

Interesting how quiet journalists are about the demonstrated positive benefits of Data Retention after all the noise they made about imaginary drawbacks just 6 months ago, wouldn’t you say?

what have phone signals that are being transmitted regularly got to do with Data Retention? The ability to locate a phone via GPS and mobile signals is completely unrelated. They didn’t find her because some ISP had retained her past text messages and visited websites…

Agreed. It appears from the story that the tower/s were receiving “pings” from the phone, which eventually led to being able to determine the approximate location. It says in the articles that the tracking history of these signals is what helped them determine the location, but if they took a week to work out and relied on a few signals from Black Mountain tower and Isaac’s Ridge, that is pretty pathetic. There are plenty of other towers much closer to the path taken that should have had these signals and helped identify the last known location, so I can’t understand the difficulties they had. Maybe they just don’t keep that much data, because as you can understand in order to track and store every mobile phone’s movements every day, the storage facility would be of mammoth proportions.

Ghettosmurf87 said :

HenryBG said :

To quote another news source:
“… the phone signals were pivotal to finding Ms Bautista.
…”

So, Data Retention saves another life then.

Interesting how quiet journalists are about the demonstrated positive benefits of Data Retention after all the noise they made about imaginary drawbacks just 6 months ago, wouldn’t you say?

what have phone signals that are being transmitted regularly got to do with Data Retention? The ability to locate a phone via GPS and mobile signals is completely unrelated. They didn’t find her because some ISP had retained her past text messages and visited websites…

ISPs don’t retain your text messages or visited websites and Data Retention is precisely about regulating the retention of the connection data that was used in this instance (as in many others) to help locate this person.

Ghettosmurf873:50 pm 24 Sep 15

HenryBG said :

To quote another news source:
“… the phone signals were pivotal to finding Ms Bautista.
…”

So, Data Retention saves another life then.

Interesting how quiet journalists are about the demonstrated positive benefits of Data Retention after all the noise they made about imaginary drawbacks just 6 months ago, wouldn’t you say?

what have phone signals that are being transmitted regularly got to do with Data Retention? The ability to locate a phone via GPS and mobile signals is completely unrelated. They didn’t find her because some ISP had retained her past text messages and visited websites…

To quote another news source:
“… the phone signals were pivotal to finding Ms Bautista.
…”

So, Data Retention saves another life then.

Interesting how quiet journalists are about the demonstrated positive benefits of Data Retention after all the noise they made about imaginary drawbacks just 6 months ago, wouldn’t you say?

Wonderful news after what has happened in the last few weeks and months. Well done to all of the services that found her.

Evilomlap said :

Glad she was found safe. I’m sure her family is relieved, and very glad this didn’t end in another news story we’ve seen far too many of lately.

That’s a long time in the bush, presumably injured. Here’s to a speedy recovery!

Glad she was found safe. I’m sure her family is relieved, and very glad this didn’t end in another news story we’ve seen far too many of lately.

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