14 December 2010

Krazy on Kelleway Avenue

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This in from ACT Policing:

Two Gungahlin Patrol members escaped serious injury last night after a 28-year-old Nicholls man rammed his vehicle into the side of their police car.

About 11pm last night (Monday December 13) Gungahlin Patrol members responded to an incident where a male was allegedly driving while intoxicated.

Police located the vehicle of interest, a maroon Nissan Murano, in Kelleway Avenue, Nicholls. When the members approached on foot the driver accelerated directly at one of the members, narrowly missing him before leaving the area.

A short time later police located the car and attempted to stop the driver, however he again accelerated away from police in a dangerous manner. Police did not engage in a pursuit.

Police continued patrolling Nicholls and found the car again on Kelleway Avenue. Police stopped their car a short distance away from the Nissan Murano when without warning the driver accelerated heavily at the stationary police car, impacting at high speed and with significant force. The officers sustained minor injuries.

The male will be attending the ACT Magistrate’s Court today charged with a number of serious offences. Police will be opposing bail.

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Swaggie said :

Mystery 2me wisely mentioned that

Lol, yes, and that would certainly make him think twice about trying to ram raid a police car in the future…. NOT…

I do take your point and the alternative – a good talking to from a Magistrate will surely succeed in making him think twice…

Possibly not either, someone who rams a cop car obviously doesn’t give a shite about the police, their cars, or whether

EvanJames said :

Cops should not have to fear being smashed with cars when they turn up to work every day.

Let’s just say that this particular “criminal” will probably never experience “discretion” from the ACT police ever again…

My point still remains though, if things were the other way around, and the police had felt threatened by this man and used their vehicle as a weapon to protect themselves (probably the same thought pattern the driver had, whether delusional or whatever), there would have been praise for the police, with disregard to the safety of others.

Oh, I see. The poor old criminal was ramming police to protect himself from them injuring him. What a great insight into the criminal mind you have. I’m sure his actions had nothing to do with him trying to escape apprehension, after already trying to run down the officers a short time earlier.

If you are seriously not just trying to get a bite, I find your anti-police view of the world bizarre.

Maybe I need reading comprehension, but I failed to see ‘drivers side door’ anywhere. If the patrol car had been hit “at high speed with significant force” by a Munaro on the drivers door, those in the car would be dead.

You sure that’s the case? Have you seen a pic of the damaged police vehicle?

Special G said :

Ram Police car = go to jail.

We will wait to see if the ACT judiciary agree with me.

Optimist.

Ram Police car = go to jail.

We will wait to see if the ACT judiciary agree with me.

el said :

Out of interest, dont the police use ramming techniques against drivers in pursuits sometimes? Im sure if it had been the police ramming this vehicle, before arresting…

Sigh. Right on cue, dvaey comes out with more factually incorrect, anti-police garbage.

To respond:

– Not in Canberra as far as I’m aware.

Okay, I stand corrected. Do they have the right to do so though?

el said :

– In areas where they (Law enforcement) do so, they sure as shit don’t line up stationary cars and accelerate as hard as they possibly can in an attempt to kill/maim the driver and passengers.

You need to watch less US TV and learn to read a bit better.

Forgive me for not watching more ‘local’ TV or reading the crimes to stay up-to-date on local police matters.

My point still remains though, if things were the other way around, and the police had felt threatened by this man and used their vehicle as a weapon to protect themselves (probably the same thought pattern the driver had, whether delusional or whatever), there would have been praise for the police, with disregard to the safety of others.

Sleaz274 said :

They do not line up the drivers side door and ram it with intent to injure. As el points out maybe less “police camera action” and more reading comprehension.

Maybe I need reading comprehension, but I failed to see ‘drivers side door’ anywhere. If the patrol car had been hit “at high speed with significant force” by a Munaro on the drivers door, those in the car would be dead.

Im willing to wait for more than a police media version of the story, and wait to read the court evidence before passing judgement.

dvaey said :

Out of interest, dont the police use ramming techniques against drivers in pursuits sometimes? Im sure if it had been the police ramming this vehicle, before arresting its (allegedly) intoxicated driver, theyd be praising the brave efforts of the officers in using their vehicle as a useful weapon in their pursuit.

That trolling attempt is lame, even by your standards.

Wow I could never be a cop, I would have got out of the car (provided I could walk obviously) and shot him in the head at point blank range, several times. Kind of like the security guard a few years back after being clubbed over the head.

And yes dvaey in the US sometimes they attempt to “pit” runaway cars by pushing against the back rear panel causing the car to spin. They do not line up the drivers side door and ram it with intent to injure. As el points out maybe less “police camera action” and more reading comprehension.

Out of interest, dont the police use ramming techniques against drivers in pursuits sometimes? Im sure if it had been the police ramming this vehicle, before arresting its (allegedly) intoxicated driver, theyd be praising the brave efforts of the officers in using their vehicle as a useful weapon in their pursuit.

Sigh. Right on cue, dvaey comes out with more factually incorrect, anti-police garbage.

To respond:

– Not in Canberra as far as I’m aware.

– In areas where they (Law enforcement) do so, they sure as shit don’t line up stationary cars and accelerate as hard as they possibly can in an attempt to kill/maim the driver and passengers.

You need to watch less US TV and learn to read a bit better.

dvaey said :

Out of interest, dont the police use ramming techniques against drivers in pursuits sometimes? Im sure if it had been the police ramming this vehicle, before arresting its (allegedly) intoxicated driver, theyd be praising the brave efforts of the officers in using their vehicle as a useful weapon in their pursuit.

The police’s job is to minismise harm and risk. You eedjet.

Mystery 2me wisely mentioned that

Lol, yes, and that would certainly make him think twice about trying to ram raid a police car in the future…. NOT…

I do take your point and the alternative – a good talking to from a Magistrate will surely succeed in making him think twice…

Out of interest, dont the police use ramming techniques against drivers in pursuits sometimes?

Not in the ACT. You’ll find most pursuits are terminated after a very short time.

Out of interest, dont the police use ramming techniques against drivers in pursuits sometimes? Im sure if it had been the police ramming this vehicle, before arresting its (allegedly) intoxicated driver, theyd be praising the brave efforts of the officers in using their vehicle as a useful weapon in their pursuit.

This sort of crim is why all police stations should have a copy of the yellow pages at hand

The guy should be up on very serious charges. Attempted murder? Assault with a weapon with intent to kill? Cops should not have to fear being smashed with cars when they turn up to work every day.

People in general seem to regard their cars as offensive weapons, they way they use them to force their way.

I’d hope they not only oppose bail but take him out back and give him a good kicking. Attempted murder of two Police Officers doesn’t count for much when it comes to court and he’ll get a good telling off from the Magistrate but it would at least redress the balance a little if he nursed a few bruises for a few weeks.

Lol, yes, and that would certainly make him think twice about trying to ram raid a police car in the future…. NOT…

I’d hope they not only oppose bail but take him out back and give him a good kicking. Attempted murder of two Police Officers doesn’t count for much when it comes to court and he’ll get a good telling off from the Magistrate but it would at least redress the balance a little if he nursed a few bruises for a few weeks.

Mr Gillespie12:11 pm 14 Dec 10

Maybe we shouldn’t release anything about anything, I mean how about we go back to the secret society of no press releases about anything, is that what you want?

Police will be opposing bail. I bloody well hope so!

There’s got to be more to this story. A Murano is not a cheap-ish car (in the sense that while you might use your own EL Falcon as a battering ram you would surely think twice about using your $30,000 to $40,000 Murano). So, was it stolen, was the guy on ice? I would ask if the guy is just a giant douche, but that’s a given, I’d say.

troll-sniffer11:36 am 14 Dec 10

Given the propensity for copycat offences inherent in this media-driven society, should the lurid details of this incident have been released, thereby endangering the lives of the rest of the hard-working constabulary patrolling the increasingly dangerous street of our once law-abiding national capital?

If we do suffer a rash of drunk drivers smashing willy-nilly into defenceless patrol cars, the media section of the police force will need to take a long hard look at themselves, i say!

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